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    Can diversity destroy us?

    Can diversity destroy us?
    -Pat Buchanan
    Posted: December 4, 2007
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    On the Great Seal of the United States, first suggested by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, there was to be emblazoned a new motto: "E Pluribus Unum" – "Out of many, one."
    It was in their unity, not their diversity, that the strength of the colonies resided. So Patrick Henry believed, as he declared, "The distinctions between Virginians, Pennsylvanians, New Yorkers and New Englanders are no more. I am not a Virginian, but an American."

    National identity must supersede state identity for America to survive.

    Yet it has lately become fashionable to say that America is great not because she is united, but because she is diverse. It is because America is a multicultural, multiracial, multiethnic, multilingual nation that she is a great nation. A corollary is that the more diverse America becomes, the better and greater she becomes.

    After the Los Angeles riot of 1992, Vice President Dan Quayle was asked by his Japanese hosts if perhaps America did not suffer from too much diversity. "I begged to differ with my hosts," Quayle retorted. "I explained that our diversity is our strength."

    And so our rulers, marinated in the myths that we "are a nation of immigrants" and "our diversity is our strength," continue to embrace mass immigration – the more the better. But are the myths true?

    America was settled by colonists from the British Isles. In 1789, two centuries after Jamestown and Plymouth Rock, we were 99 percent Protestant. Until the Irish came in 1845, there was almost no immigration. Even during the Great Wave of 1890-1920, the number of immigrants was a fraction of the 38 million here today. And all had come from Europe. By 1960, we were almost 90 percent European and more than 90 percent Christian – of one nationality, American, one language, English, and one culture.

    That America is gone forever.

    Last week, we learned that in the last seven years 10.3 million people, almost all from the Third World, entered the United States, more than half illegally. The nation that was one-tenth minority in 1960 is now one-third minority. European-Americans will soon be a minority in the nation, as they are today in California, Texas and most large American cities.

    And when that day comes, what then will unite us as a people?

    Certainly not religious faith, for the last 40 years have seen a large influx of Muslims, the rise of a rabid secularism and the break-up of Christian churches – the Episcopalians most recently – over issues of morality: abortion, civil unions, homosexual bishops, assisted suicide, stem cell research, Darwin, creationism. No longer are we united by a common language, as the fastest growing radio and TV stations are Hispanic. And certainly not culture, as we are in a cultural war over history, heroes and holidays.

    And how can we say diversity is a strength, when the most diverse nations of Europe, Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union, shattered into 22 nations as soon as they became free, and Slovaks and Czechs divorced? Ethnic and linguistic diversity is now pulling Belgium apart, as they tore Cyprus in two.

    Since World War II, diversity – racial, religious, ethnic, cultural – has pulled Malaysia, the Indian subcontinent, Pakistan, Indonesia and Ethiopia apart, and is today pulling Iraq, Turkey and Lebanon apart. How, when tribalism is everywhere ascendant, is diversity a strength?

    When Islam arose in the 7th century, our world became more diverse. Fourteen centuries of war followed. When Catholic Europe became more diverse with the Protestant Reformation, a century of war followed, ending in a Thirty Years War that carried away a third of all the German people.

    There came a new diversity when the English came to the Red Man's continent in 1607 and Africans were brought as slaves in 1619. From that diversity came the near annihilation of American Indians and a racial divide that led to the American Civil War, bloodiest in the West in the 19th century.

    Our racial diversity has ever been the most divisive issue in America – and remains so, as we see daily from Jena, the Imus affair and the Duke rape case.

    Britain is more diverse than in the time of Victoria and Churchill. Is Britain a better, stronger nation now that London is Londonistan, madrassas defend the London bombers and race riots are common in the industrial north? If diversity is a strength, why do Scots wish to follow the Irish and secede?

    Has Germany been strengthened by the diversity the Turks brought? Is France a stronger nation for the 5 million to 8 million Muslims concentrated in the banlieus? How have the Japanese suffered from their lack of diversity?

    The Melting Pot – language, law, culture – worked to make us one nation and one people. But that Melting Pot, cracked and broken, is rejected by multiculturalists as an instrument of cultural genocide, crafted by white Europeans to annihilate native cultures.

    This generation is witnessing the Deconstruction of America. Out of one, many.
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    Similarly, the now-famous speech by former CO Gov. Richard Lamm (D) about 2 years ago also addresses the widely-held notion that our culture must 'celebrate diversity' without condition nor limit. He uses historical parallels to suggest that cultures cannot survive over time once internal cohesion and unity are lost. I don't mean to spoil the punch-line of the piece, but rest assured, he makes a compelling case why losing unity can have disastrous consequences for a society.

    It is a rather interesting and eye-opening read. I've included here for the benefit for some of the newer folks here on the board that might not be aware of it yet. Enjoy.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
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    With diversity come racism.

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    A certain amount of diversity is ok but when you have several or one group not of the native culture of a country growing in numbers and competing with the native culture of a country, it leads to chaos, resentment and racism. It becomes a competition, not a melting pot.

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    We cannot survive as a nation if we have many nations existing within one nation. When these nations within a nation won't assimulate as Americans we have a problem.

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    It used to be that different nationalities were recognized, yet everyone was "American." We celebrated our heritage, but it was clear that we were all Americans now and the contributions that were to be made were towards America, period. The heritage was important, but it didn't take precedence over everything.

    Now the stress is backwards. You're an African American, an Asian American, etc, etc. We have to cater to the whims and "needs" of different cultures. There is NO common affiliation. It's a "taker" mentality -- we the American People are all of a sudden supposed to bow to these various cultures -- and it's crap.

    How about bowing down to America? It's America that has given so much to everyone -- that provides the opportunities. It's our Constitution and form of government that enables such a free society to exist, where everyone can work hard and have a decent life.

    Why we have to cater to all these cultures that have really done nothing for America in an individual sense, I do not know. Various cultures are great, and interesting, but in my mind, none of them can hold a candle to the great old U.S.A. And I've lived abroad and seen many different cultures in my lifetime.

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    This is not about race but simply common sense if I am invited into your home I respect your rules or I leave. How tough is that to understand.

    The melting pot is a failing idea because of the large numbers our children and grandchildren face an America fragmented and one in time that will divide and fight, again simply too many people with different ideas/religions and they will not merge into one unit. We see it in public schools, government and to not see the division one must be blind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhredE
    Similarly, the now-famous speech by former CO Gov. Richard Lamm (D) about 2 years ago also addresses the widely-held notion that our culture must 'celebrate diversity' without condition nor limit. He uses historical parallels to suggest that cultures cannot survive over time once internal cohesion and unity are lost. I don't mean to spoil the punch-line of the piece, but rest assured, he makes a compelling case why losing unity can have disastrous consequences for a society.

    It is a rather interesting and eye-opening read. I've included here for the benefit for some of the newer folks here on the board that might not be aware of it yet. Enjoy.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
    I agree PhredE. Gov Lamn's speech says it all. Everyone needs to read it.
    I know that when I was young and working at a well known University in DC, I kept questioning why it seemed like only foreign students were getting admitted over American students. I was always told that we have certain quotas to meet and I should "celebrate this diversity". I was always wondering why they said "celebrate". Because all I ever saw was complete choas and lack of understanding the differences between languages and cultures. What was there to celebrate?
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    America today is not a melting pot but a tossed salad.

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    We need more assimilation and less "diversity."
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