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    Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil eme

    Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

    Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

    The U.S. military’s Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

    The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

    The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.

    “It’s kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites,
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    Please notice how this article excludes the fact that this plan also includes use of troops from MEXICO on US Soil.

    These agreements are completely improper. Canadian troops should not be used to deal with American citizens on American soil and American troops should not be used to deal with Canadian citizens on Canadian soil.

    And if Mexican troops are ever deployed in the US again like Katrina, massive public backlash will occur.

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    Please notice how this article excludes the fact that this plan also includes use of troops from MEXICO on US Soil.
    That was my first thought when I read this. And that thought is scary. Of course they know the American people would really be up in arms over that so they purposely omitted to mention it.
    As Aristotle said, “Tolerance and apathy are the first virtue of a dying civilization.

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    Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais
    Since when do Generals get to sign treaties? I do not recall seeing either of these men on a ballot.

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    According to this article, the President as the Commander-in-Chief of the military can negotiate this. But it does have to be ratified by two-thirds of the senate to actually be in force.


    Foreign Affairs of the United States

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign..._United_States

    Powers of the President and Congress

    Main articles: Treaty Clause, War Powers Clause, Appointments Clause, and Foreign Commerce Clause

    Subject to the advise and consent role of the U.S. Senate, the President of the United States negotiates treaties with foreign nations, but treaties enter into force only if ratified by two-thirds of the Senate.[5] The President is also Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces, and as such has broad authority over the armed forces; however only Congress has authority to declare war,[6] and the civilian and military budget is written by the Congress.[7] The United States Secretary of State is the foreign minister of the United States and is the primary conductor of state-to-state diplomacy. Both the Secretary of State and ambassadors are appointed by the President, with the advice and consent of the Senate. Congress also has power to regulate commerce with foreign nations.
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    I remember when this happened--it was under Bush. Look at the date on the article--Feb 22, 2008. One more way that Bush was setting us up for the North American Union
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    Please notice how this article excludes the fact that this plan also includes use of troops from MEXICO on US Soil.

    These agreements are completely improper. Canadian troops should not be used to deal with American citizens on American soil and American troops should not be used to deal with Canadian citizens on Canadian soil.

    And if Mexican troops are ever deployed in the US again like Katrina, massive public backlash will occur.

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    Ditto W...I was just going to ask if mexico was involved in this agreement, as I recall early on, they were. Was mexico included in the final agreement? I would like to find out if that was the case.
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