Thread: CBS 60 Minutes just covered MS-13

http://www.azcorrections.gov/reports/Ethnic.htm

As of October 2005 11.7% of the Arizona prison population is Mexican Nationals.

You're right Charles...it's Bush's responsibility and in my opinion liability for every murdered American at the hand of MS-13 and any other illegal alien murderer. His complicity is nothing short of criminally liable. He knows his policy will get Americans killed. He knows and does nothing.

The man is insane.

gearhead that is a good fact to use when writing to the media et all! the 11 percent in prison --they just come here for a better life.............hah!

I don't know how many people have had the "opportunity" to actually see a couple of these MS-13 gang members up close and personal. I have.

All I can tell you is that you feel as though Al Qaida is right there with you. NO KIDDING.

Well I must share this. My brother worked as a reserve county sheriff in Oregon. While he was being trained, the seargent doing the class said that Hispanics (illegals aliens?)comprise 9% of Oregons population, however, at that time, he said that Oregons state prisons, county and city jails, Hispanic inmates comprise about 36% of that population!!!!!!!!!! Now that was about 5 years ago, I have to imagine that it could be higher now. I have a habit of reading the weekly (city of Gresham) police logs in the paper, and 95% of the logs for just the eastside of Multnomah county, are about events involving Hispanics. Other parts of town are pretty much the same. Lately almost all of our violent crime stories on our local news stations have involved Hispanics, mostly gang related. When people try to say police are racially profiling, WELL???? What can they do when the incident rate for this group is so dramatically high. I have dealt with our local police about bad neighbors, and they try so hard not to say what most likely is truly on their minds, they try so hard to monitor themselves, I have seen it in their faces. Our government has been absolutely spineless on this issue. I see gang members come and go in our complex. I have seen these people (Mexicans, maybe illegals) deal drugs and bring in prostitutes. I am completely appalled by the lack of resolve not only by Bush, but by most politicians to stop illegal aliens from entering the U.S., but also about enforcing our laws and deporting these people, and banning them from retunring to U.S. soil. What happens when you get caught stealing from your local grocery store? Police come, arrest you, you might go to jail, then you are completely banned from that store, why? All because you broke the law, pure and simple. Then why should it not be the same for our immigration laws? Are these people not stealing from the American citizens by getting social and public services to which they are not entitled to? Stealing jobs from Americans? YES, then whats our cotton-pickin problem here? I read about Eisenhower in the early 50's and his "Operation Wetback", and how he deported so many in only four months with very limited Border Patrol officers, now if he can do it, then so can we, and I mean not even the U.S. born minors whose parents depend on to be able to stay, they too should go.

OPERATION WETBACK. Operation Wetback was a repatriation project of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service to remove illegal Mexican immigrants ("wetbacks") from the Southwest. During the first decades of the twentieth century, the majority of migrant workers who crossed the border illegally did not have adequate protection against exploitation by American farmers. As a result of the Good Neighbor Policy, Mexico and the United States began negotiating an accord to protect the rights of Mexican agricultural workers. Continuing discussions and modifications of the agreement were so successful that the Congress chose to formalize the "temporary" program into the Bracero program,qv authorized by Public Law 78. In the early 1940s, while the program was being viewed as a success in both countries, Mexico excluded Texas from the labor-exchange program on the grounds of widespread violation of contracts, discrimination against migrant workers, and such violations of their civil rights as perfunctory arrests for petty causes. Oblivious to the Mexican charges, some grower organizations in Texas continued to hire illegal Mexican workers and violate such mandates of PL 78 as the requirement to provide workers transportation costs from and to Mexico, fair and lawful wages, housing, and health services. World War IIqv and the postwar period exacerbated the Mexican exodus to the United States, as the demand for cheap agricultural laborers increased. Graft and corruption on both sides of the border enriched many Mexican officials as well as unethical "coyote" freelancers in the United States who promised contracts in Texas for the unsuspecting Bracero. Studies conducted over a period of several years indicate that the Bracero program increased the number of illegal aliens in Texas and the rest of the country. Because of the low wages paid to legal, contracted braceros, many of them skipped out on their contracts either to return home or to work elsewhere for better wages as wetbacks.

Increasing grievances from various Mexican officials in the United States and Mexico prompted the Mexican government to rescind the bracero agreement and cease the export of Mexican workers. The United States Immigration Service, under pressure from various agricultural groups, retaliated against Mexico in 1951 by allowing thousands of illegals to cross the border, arresting them, and turning them over to the Texas Employment Commission,qv which delivered them to work for various grower groups in Texas and elsewhere. Over the long term, this action by the federal government, in violation of immigration laws and the agreement with Mexico, caused new problems for Texas. Between 1944 and 1954, "the decade of the wetback," the number of illegal aliens coming from Mexico increased by 6,000 percent. It is estimated that in 1954 before Operation Wetback got under way, more than a million workers had crossed the Rio Grande illegally. Cheap labor displaced native agricultural workers, and increased violation of labor laws and discrimination encouraged criminality, disease, and illiteracy. According to a study conducted in 1950 by the President's Commission on Migratory Labor in Texas, the Rio Grande valleyqv cotton growers were paying approximately half of the wages paid elsewhere in Texas. In 1953 a McAllen newspaper clamored for justice in view of continuing criminal activities by wetbacks.

The resulting Operation Wetback, a national reaction against illegal immigration, began in Texas in mid-July 1954. Headed by the commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization Service, Gen. Joseph May Swing, the United States Border Patrol aided by municipal, county, state, and federal authorities, as well as the military, began a quasimilitary operation of search and seizure of all illegal immigrants. Fanning out from the lower Rio Grande valley, Operation Wetback moved northward. Illegal aliens were repatriated initially through Presidio because the Mexican city across the border, Ojinaga, had rail connections to the interior of Mexico by which workers could be quickly moved on to Durango. A major concern of the operation was to discourage reentry by moving the workers far into the interior. Others were to be sent through El Paso. On July 15, the first day of the operation, 4,800 aliens were apprehended. Thereafter the daily totals dwindled to an average of about 1,100 a day. The forces used by the government were actually relatively small, perhaps no more than 700 men, but were exaggerated by border patrol officials who hoped to scare illegal workers into flight back to Mexico. Valley newspapers also exaggerated the size of the government forces for their own purposes: generally unfavorable editorials attacked the Border Patrol as an invading army seeking to deprive Valley farmers of their inexpensive labor force. While the numbers of deportees remained relatively high, the illegals were transported across the border on trucks and buses. As the pace of the operation slowed, deportation by sea began on the Emancipation, which ferried wetbacks from Port Isabel, Texas, to Veracruz, and on other ships. Ships were a preferred mode of transport because they carried the illegal workers farther away from the border than did buses, trucks, or trains. The boat lift continued until the drowning of seven deportees who jumped ship from the Mercurio provoked a mutiny and led to a public outcry against the practice in Mexico. Other aliens, particularly those apprehended in the Midwest states, were flown to Brownsville and sent into Mexico from there. The operation trailed off in the fall of 1954 as INS funding began to run out.

It is difficult to estimate the number of illegal aliens forced to leave by the operation. The INS claimed as many as 1,300,000, though the number officially apprehended did not come anywhere near this total. The INS estimate rested on the claim that most aliens, fearing apprehension by the government, had voluntarily repatriated themselves before and during the operation. The San Antonio district, which included all of Texas outside of El Paso and the Trans-Pecos,qv had officially apprehended slightly more than 80,000 aliens, and local INS officials claimed that an additional 500,000 to 700,000 had fled to Mexico before the campaign began. Many commentators have considered these figure to be exaggerated. Various groups opposed any form of temporary labor in the United States. The American G.I. Forum,qv for instance, by and large had little or no sympathy for the man who crossed the border illegally. Apparently the Texas State Federation of Laborqv supported the G.I. Forum's position. Eventually the two organizations coproduced a study entitled What Price Wetbacks?, which concluded that illegal aliens in United States agriculture damaged the health of the American people, that illegals displaced American workers, that they harmed the retailers of McAllen, and that the open-border policy of the American government posed a threat to the security of the United States. Critics of Operation Wetback considered it xenophobic and heartless.

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/onl ... /pqo1.html

Once again, CBS did NOT mention that MS-13 imports illegal aliens. In fact, MS-13 is prob the largest importer of illegal aliens.

I can see why a lot of big companies like these thugs. Perhaps they will make MS-13 their street enforcers. Somebody pisses off Tyson, well they can just call the same crooks that brought them all that illegal labor in NC and say go fix our problem.

It's just business right?

W

Great article COI on Operation Wetback.

We've needed to secure that border since 1954.

Well, 2005 will be the year this demand rings to the highest levels without compromise.

Here is the plan:

1) Build the Fence...the best most beautiful most clever impenetrable fence ever built by human civilization.

2) Put Troops on the Borders NOW and at the Fence when it's complete...they will man the Fence the same way they man the wall at Gitmo.

3) Terminate all tax dollars to Mexico.

4) Restrict all transfer payments to Mexico.

5) Restrict all bank wires to Mexico without a 10 day waiting period, a thorough investiation, and absolute verification that these funds were earned legally.

6) Get an Elliot Ness on Employers and start arresting and prosecuting.

7) Make the announcement that illegals need to leave the country and request they leave voluntarily because if they don't, we'll confiscate all their assets for the cost they've imposed on American Society. Give all aiders and abetters notice that by x date they will be rounded up, fined and jailed without bond due to the national security risk of their criminal activities if they do not stop their activities now and stop aiding, abetting, harboring or assisting violators of US Immigration Law.

8) Get our troops home from Iraq and put them on the MS-13 Gangs and every other gang member. It's time to shut these gangs down and get our kids back to school and happy productive safe lives.

9) Cancel all Free Trade Agreements immediately.

10) Close all Mexican Consulates and any other consulate of any other nation suspected for fostering illegal immigration of its citizens into the United States.

Now, what is so hard about that?

Aren't WE the Americans that can save the world from a monster like Hitler? Aren't WE the Americans that created the Industrial Revolution? Aren't WE the Americans that invented almost everything of value in the world? Aren't WE the Americans that can do anything? Aren't WE the American that believe anything and everything is POSSIBLE

Why then, yes indeedy, WE are the Americans fully capable of saving our nation.

Piece of Cake!!

Lets Ride!!

exactly William- in the future the rich will have their own police force - just like in third world countries. it's becoming more difficult to recruit real police officers- with the low pay and danger--
HI american elizabeth - did you note that the male who went crazy at the tacoma mall two weeks ago and took people hostage and shot about seven- well he had a latino name-
the news made a bigger deal about the snow fall-

Thelma, was he an illegal alien or could you find out? I didn't see that on the news. Shot 7 people? Wow.