Thread: It is clear

But you're too lazy to get off your couch, stop drinking your beer for thirty minutes and do some actual physical labor. Americans are too lazy to do it,

Easy there Bucky! Someone has been pumping your head full of some good stuff. Nothing but a bunch of hard working American Patriots around here, you might start to feel a bit out of place.

the Senate is importing poverty and uneducated people . . . but then the federal government and many states believe these illegals deserve a higher education that citizens can't afford.

I'm not "educated" -- we could barely afford high school let alone college, but I can speak English and my ancestor's fought and died for me to enjoy the freedoms of this country -- I didn't steal 'em

Last night I was talking with a guy that served in Kuwait ... he said one of his buddies lost his home, had his car repossessed and his wife and family had to go live with her parents because he was making half his salary while on active duty . . . this citizen's family didn't 'qualify' for government aid while he was serving his country but those that 'illegally' enter are ... this is twisted

Hey, Mamie, I like the way you talk.

There is an essay, poem, whatever, I am sure we have all head it about 'When the Nazi came for the Jews, I was Jewish,
I did nothing"

"When the Nazi came for the Gypsies, etc., etc.

Until

"When they came for me, there was no one left to help"

For those that think these people are not taking white collar jobs, they just don't know. That is a perception the pro-illegal crowd would like for you to believe.

The last recent arrivee I met, wore tasselled loafers, designers jeans and had a computer job.

I have met bank tellers, mid-mgt grocery store, insurance offices, etc.

Just wait until these people get made 'legal' and the teaching jobs go to them because they are bilingual, the nursing jobs (I mean RN), etc.
Just wait until more and more jobs go to them because they are bilingual - and educated.

No, they are not just doing the 'work no one else wants to do'.

The wave of the last 4 or 5 years have arrived here with styled hair, manicures and clothing not from Wal Mart.

I live in a very small town - I am sure it is even a large number in the large cities where there are more white collar jobs.

But as for the 'lazy' American - 95% of the construction work is done by illegals in Texas now. In some small towns, it is not all illegals - but in the cities and with large companies, it is.

These are jobs, those 'lazy Americans' once did, did well, and supported a family doing.

As for the lady in CA speaking about voting in socialism - I will agree that I didn't hear the entire speech, so I could be wrong.

I listen to a lot of things and file them away and if you listen enough, you can put 2 and 2 together - sometimes you get 4 1/2 - sometimes you get it right.

I had added that to a speech made on the steps of the Texas capitol a few years ago by the previous President of Mexico. He spoke to 'his people in America". He told them to vote in the next election (US) and when they voted 'vote with Mexico in mind.".

Now this could be another 4 1/2 - in light of the things that have happened in the years since - maybe not.

Just wait until these people get made 'legal' and the teaching jobs go to them because they are bilingual, the nursing jobs (I mean RN), etc.
Just wait until more and more jobs go to them because they are bilingual - and educated.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is already commonplace in El Paso, Texas and I'm sure most other cities anywhere near the border. Your tax dollars educated them and now you can't find a regular worker like a nurse's aid or orderly in most of the hospitals who speaks English so if you are dying don't expect help!

The teachers are up against impossible odds because one language or the other is their first language and it is quite obvious. It makes for some pretty bad teachers.

That's what I mean about perception. It doesn't surprise me, but I didn't know it.

So far in this part of TExas, we don't have them as teachers, that I have seen. I have seen the teacher's aides - they work with the Mexican children.
As for working in the healthcare field - so far (knocking on wood), I haven't been to a doctor, other than ear infection and tentanus shot in 30 years.

For those who truly do have the perception they all just harvest lettuce, or pick apples, there are some rude awakenings coming.

I know that in this part of Texas, we do not have it as bad as other parts of the state and of the country, but it is coming.

NNTrixie, I've always given that poem a lot of thought because it is so true.


you know, it's a sad day in this country when an American citizen has to speak Spanish to be eligible for employment.

I happened to hear the "Black Eagle" the other night on Lou Dobbs, he said if they started replacing corporate CEO's with illegal aliens, the border would be closed.


Another thing that gets me angry is hearing people say we are a "nation of immigrants" and these people are entitled to be here because they don't have work in "their country" -- my niece and her stupid husband think that way! I told her she better start learning Spanish, but she said she speaks English and they better learn it, the poor child doesn't have a clue.

And I'm so impressed with the Senate's proposed bill that these illegals can pay a fine of $1,000.00 to be 'legal' and eligible for citizenship -- that's an insult to all Americans and all veterans that gave their life for freedom.

The other day I saw some quotes by Malcolm X -- a militant civil rights leader, I think his quotes apply to the Senate . . .

"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong no matter who does it or says it."

" . . . If I'm following a general, and he's leading me into a battle, and the enemy tends to give him rewards, or awards, I get suspicious of him. Especially if he gets a peace award before the war is over.""


We need to deport the Senate for Mexico into the line of their friends

Napalm, you've picked a bad day to say inflamatory things like that with me. Let's start here, I'm 38, mother and grandmother, they all live with me, I take care of them, and clean, and pay bills and homeschool. And right now I am tired and PMS'ing, so here's the backlash of saying we all are lazy!!!!!!

My husband works 45 hours each week as a Reciceving Clerk in a warehouse, he is 55, he served in the Air Force for 11 years, some of that in Vietnam. He now works a backbreaking job, and has recently recovered from a stroke, and was back at work the next week. He earns little for his efforts, enough to squeeze by on, but not enough to do more than that. His medical benefits are a joke and unusable to us.

My fathers family all worked in farm work, many of them were migrant workers themselves. I myself spent the summers of my childhood from age 7 to 14 working in the local berry and bean farms. After that, I had part-time jobs and babysitting.

We do not have the luxury of just sitting in our place, we live like the Japanese, 6 people in a two bedroom place, it's rented, only having a converted garage saved us from having to sleep in the living room.

I am up early, I clean, cook, teach kids, do laundry, pay bills, run errands and in the last few months attend frequent appointments with my recovering husband to the Veterans Hospital, which is an hours trip from our home.

By Friday, we are tired, too tired to consider going out like our Hispanic neighbors do. In fact they seem to have a fair amount of free time, and also have some darn nice cars, although the men are home most of the time, now tell me how is that? How do they pay for those cars? I know ours is an 86 Subaru with over 200,000 miles on it.

Oh, they might work those seasonal jobs that come up around here, but they do not do it consistently. So we always have to wonder where their rent money must be coming from, ours comes out of hard earned dollars, that by the way have been taxed senseless by the time it is in our hands, and those tax dollars are probably going to feed and educate, in the VERY least, those illegal aliens that are such hard workers, with their shiny new vehicles.

This my friend is what all the people I know and am related to do with themselves. They do not sit on their behinds in the family room of their big houses sipping imported beers or wine. They come home dog tired, eat and fall asleep watching the ten-o-clock news. Even my own 65 year old widowed mother still works 3/4 time to survive.

So who's lazy? Were we the ones that took the easy way out and came here illegally? No! These "poor immigrants" could have stayed in their countries and worked hard at making their country what it needs to be.

Last night on tv, I saw an interview with the lady who is an architect from Mexico, now an American, Claudia Spencer, also volunteers with the Minutemen. She said something quite profound; "why should America have to pay for Mexicos inadequacies?". So tell me, why should we? Why do we, the hardworking responsible Americans, have to pay their way because the government they voted in is inadequate?

So, Napalm, glad we had this discussion, I know it helped me unwind, and it was hopefully a learning experience for you.

well said AmericanElizabeth . . .

when I was a kid my cousins raised produce -- we did the pickin'. I remember once when we were picking peas in the hot sun when I was about 7. My mother and Miss Beulah took me to the house to suck on a lemon because they thought I had the mumps -- I flunked the lemon test and went back to the field and picked. Later, the doctor said it was mumps ... my mother felt so bad, 30 years later she'd still say she would never have made me stay in the hot sun all day. To me it wasn't a big deal because I never felt sick.

I just get so tired of these whiney pro-illegal people saying Americans are lazy. Everyone I am related to and know as friends, all work physical jobs. None of them have it "easy".

I think the problem with the Latinos that think we have it easy, is only because in coming here, not knowing English and breaking the law to do so, they have made things harder on themselves, thus, they do not see that, they only look at our lives, and think we have it easy. It's not, we just decided to remain within the laws and do whats right, there are rewards to that.

I had read a commentary that I posted here a bit ago, from a man on the Minuteman site, he said that the Latino as a people, live as victims, and until they stop living as victims, take personal responsibility, then they will continue to wallow in their self-pitying lives, instead of moving forward like the rest of the world.

I personally think that if any of us Americans are having a hard time in life, we first look at our decisions and examine if we have made some poor choices, then if there is nothing we could have done to prevent it, we then know that it was outside circumstances, like the pressure on wages illegal immigration has made!!

Though I still think we need to allow the kids to do some summertime farm labor, like we used to be able to do. It is good for them, teaches them work ethics.