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    Swtncgram, What?!!!! Delete 'mom & dad'? Are they crazy?!! How can anyone live in Ca? Sorry, I'm just so shocked. SOOOO much to learn!!!!
    Ya, it's true......just read it in the paper last night. Unless you have children in the school system.....you would be horrified at all the things that are taking place from the ground up. Little things. Things that start out being "sensitive" things to do. That have snow-balled into sheer insanity.
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    California Bill Is 'Sexual-Agenda Bomb,' Group Says
    By Randy Hall
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    April 06, 2006
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    (CNSNews.com) - Legislation approved Wednesday by the California Senate Judiciary Committee is "a sexual-agenda bomb dressed up as a child-caring Easter egg," a conservative group charged.

    SB 1437, which would amend the state's education code by adding the words "gender" and "sexual orientation" to its anti-discrimination policy, would force school districts to "teach school children as young as kindergarten to accept and embrace transsexuality, bisexuality and homosexuality in all its forms," according to Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families (CCF).

    Thomasson, who had testified against the measure, held a news conference with concerned families at the state capitol in Sacramento before the Senate Judiciary Committee vote. The resulting tally had all three Democrats on the four-member committee supporting the measure.

    If passed by the legislature, "SB 1437 means goodbye to textbooks that say you're either a boy or a girl, or that marriage is only for a man and a woman, or that the natural family is a father, a mother and their children," stated Thomasson.

    The measure would also lead to "radical curriculum changes that include transvestite speakers and transsexual videos, classroom handouts on sex-change operations and curriculum that tells children homosexual 'marriage' is normal," he added. "This bill is frightening for parents who want trustworthy schools, not schools that sexually indoctrinate their own children -- children as young as kindergarten!"

    As it currently stands, Section 51500 of the California Education Code states: "No teacher shall give instruction nor shall a school sponsor any activity which reflects adversely upon persons because of their race, sex, color, creed, handicap, national origin, or ancestry."

    However, SB 1437 would replace the words "sex, color, creed, handicap, national origin or ancestry" with "gender, disability, nationality, sexual orientation or religion."

    In its legal analysis of the bill, the CCF states that the measure would require "public school textbooks, instructional materials and school-sponsored activities to positively portray 'gender' (which includes transsexuality, transvestitism, cross dressing, sex-change operations, etc.) and 'sexual orientation' (meaning bisexuality and homosexuality in all its forms).

    "Undoubtedly, SB 1437 is written to deceive, while its impact is to indoctrinate," the analysis adds. "Quite simply, SB 1437 will turn public schools into anti-family, sexual indoctrination centers. This bill must not be allowed to become a reality in California."

    Geoffrey Kors, executive director of Equality California, applauded the state Judiciary Committee's action.

    "Today's vote is the first step toward enhancing the educational experience of all California students," Kors stated in a press release. "Current California law recognizes the importance of teaching about a variety of people and groups that contribute to our diverse society.

    "Adding the important contributions of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community and individuals is in keeping with that educational goal," he added.

    The committee action was also praised by the bill's author, state Sen. Sheila Kuehl (D-Santa Monica), who as an actress played Zelda Gilroy in the 1950s TV show "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis" and in 1994 became the first open homosexual to be elected to the California legislature.

    "I am very grateful for my colleagues' support for this bill, which simply has to do with fairness and visibility," said Kuehl. "Students deserve an education that gives them a full and accurate picture of our history and society rather than one skewed by negative images and stereotypes."

    Also on Thursday, the CCF expressed its opposition to AB 606, a companion bill to SB 1437 that would empower the state education superintendent to "use any means authorized by law to effect compliance with this article, including, but not limited to, the withholding of all or part of the relevant state fiscal support of the school district."

    "SB 1437 and AB 606 are pushing non-academic, extreme sexual indoctrination that take public schools backwards, not forwards," Thomasson added. "Parents don't want it, and vulnerable children don't need it."

    SB 1437 now goes to the Senate Education Committee and faces several more committee votes. If it survives that process, it would still need passage by both the full Senate and state Assembly. AB 606 has already passed the state Assembly and is currently awaiting a hearing in the state Senate.

    Because the legislature is dominated by Democrats, the CCF is looking to Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for help in defeating what the conservative group calls the "frightening" measures.

    http://www.savecalifornia.com/getactive ... alysis.php

    "Legislation: California Bills: SB 1437 Analysis Print Page

    Too often, bill alerts and legislative bulletins tell you what a bill does, but not how it does it. It's important to understand exactly how SB 1437 will destroy the traditional family in California public schools. CCF's legal analysis goes straight to the source of SB 1437, by looking at the text of the bill itself.

    To read CCF's legal analysis of SB 1437, scroll down.
    To read the text of SB 1437, click here.
    To urge Governor Schwarzenegger to veto SB 1437, click here.
    Related link: AB 606 analysis | AB 1056 analysis



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    1. SB 1437 will force all California public schools to promote transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality to schoolchildren as young as kindergarten.

    SB 1437 is a sexual-agenda bomb dressed up as a child-caring Easter egg. Lesbian legislators such as the bill’s author, Sheila James Kuehl, a Santa Monica Democrat, would have you believe that SB 1437 merely updates school anti-discrimination policies. To that end, the bill incorporates the explosive terms “gender” (which includes transsexuality and transvestitism) and “sexual orientation” (meaning bisexuality and homosexuality) in a long list of anti-discrimination clauses.

    But the bill is ultimately about requiring transsexual, bisexual, and homosexual textbooks, instruction, and school activities – because not promoting these sexual lifestyles would “reflect adversely” on them:

    “No teacher shall give instruction nor shall a school district sponsor any activity that reflects adversely upon persons because of their race or ethnicity, gender, disability, nationality, sexual orientation, or religion.” -- SB 1437 Sec. 1.

    Contrast this to the current Education Code, which doesn’t require textbooks to promote “gender” (transsexuality and transvestitism) or “sexual orientation” (bisexuality and homosexuality):

    “No teacher shall give instruction nor shall a school sponsor any activity which reflects adversely upon persons because of their race, sex, color, creed, handicap, national origin, or ancestry.” -- CA Education Code Sec. 51500.

    A close before-and-after examination shows that the only substantial change in the Education Code is the addition of “gender” and “sexual orientation.” After all, “ethnicity” equals “race”; “nationality” equals “color” and “national origin or ancestry”; “religion” equals “creed”; and “disability” is merely another word for “handicap.”

    Clearly, SB 1437’s changes existing law by inserting transsexual, bisexual, and homosexual language. By forbidding schools from adopting educational material that “reflects adversely” on these sexual lifestyles, SB 1437 mandates these sexual lifestyles be taught and promoted to impressionable schoolchildren.

    2. SB 1437 will require textbooks to promote transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality to schoolchildren.

    To fully understand the impact of SB 1437 on your local neighborhood school, you must realize that, for the first time, state law places “gender” and “sexual orientation” into school textbooks. SB 1437 says:

    “No textbook or other instructional materials shall be adopted by the state board or by any governing board for use in the public schools that contains any matter reflecting adversely upon persons because of their race or ethnicity, gender, disability, nationality, sexual orientation, or religion, as those terms are defined in Section 422.56 of the Penal Code.” -- SB 1437, Sec. 3.

    An examination of California Penal Code, Section 422.56, reveals a direct, spelled-out link: “Gender” includes transsexuality; “Sexual orientation” includes homosexuality and bisexuality:

    “For purposes of this title, the following definitions shall apply:

    (c)"Gender" means sex, and includes a person's gender identity and gender related appearance and behavior whether or not stereotypically associated with the person's assigned sex at birth.

    (h)"Sexual orientation" means heterosexuality, homosexuality, or bisexuality.” -- California Penal Code, Section 422.56.

    It could not be more clear. Undoubtedly, SB 1437 is written to deceive, while its impact is to indoctrinate. Quite simply, SB 1437 will turn public schools into anti-family, sexual indoctrination centers. This bill must not be allowed to become a reality in California.

    3. SB 1437 prohibits schools from sponsoring traditional school activities.

    SB 1437 specifically targets school-sponsored activities that currently make a distinction between “boy” and “girl”, by stating:

    "No teacher shall give instruction nor shall a school district sponsor any activity that reflects adversely upon persons because of their race or ethnicity, gender, disability, nationality, sexual orientation, or religion, as those terms are defined in Section 422.56 of the Penal Code.” -- SB 1437 Sec. 1.

    As a result, several school activities will be deemed to “reflect adversely” on transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality:

    School proms (Prom “kings” and “queens” could not be gender-specific)
    Gender-specific sports (“Boys Basketball” would be “discriminatory” against transsexuals)
    Cheerleading (Can you say “transsexual cheerleaders”?)
    4. SB 1437 prohibits public schools from teaching there is a natural family -- a father, a mother, and their children.

    Just as it attacks school-sponsored activities, SB 1437 also assaults school curriculum on the basis of sex-related discrimination, asserting:

    “No textbook or other instructional materials shall be adopted by the state board or by any governing board for use in the public schools that contains any matter reflecting adversely upon persons because of their race or ethnicity, gender, disability, nationality, sexual orientation, or religion, as those terms are defined in Section 422.56 of the Penal Code.” -- SB 1437 Sec. 3.

    California Education Code defines “instructional materials” as:

    "’Instructional materials’" means all materials that are designed for use by pupils and their teachers as a learning resource and help pupils to acquire facts, skills, or opinions or to develop cognitive processes. Instructional materials may be printed or nonprinted, and may include textbooks, technology-based materials, other educational materials, and tests.” -- California Education Code, Section 60010(h).

    In short, instructional materials can be anything, including guest speakers, informational handouts, and other curriculum talking about and promoting transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality. Under SB 1437, non-discriminatory instructional materials related to “gender” and “sexual orientation” would include:

    Sex-change handouts (Omitting sex-change material in sex education class would ”reflect adversely”)
    Transvestite speakers (Limiting classroom speakers to biologically-born men and biologically-born women would “reflect adversely”)
    Transsexual, bisexual, and homosexual videos (Showing videos depicting the traditional family or man-woman relationships would "reflect adversely")
    If you don’t think the liberal California Department of Education will enforce SB 1437, think again. Because parental units are gender-specific, married couples or a family with a “father and a mother” would be portrayed as mere stereotypes – outdated ideas – and could be prohibited from textbooks because their discriminatory inclusion “reflects adversely.” Under SB 1437, school curriculum in every public school throughout California, in every grade K-12, would have to portray transsexual and bisexual “parents” as normal. SB 1437 would teach schoolchildren that there is no such thing as the natural family.

    If AB 606 seeks to tell school districts what pro-trans-bi-homosexual textbooks they must use, SB 1437 is even more specific as it dictates what California schools may not use (anything “reflecting adversely” on transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality). These bad bills will brainwash schoolchildren into accepting and experimenting with transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality.

    5. The March 28 amendments to SB 1437 openly REQUIRE that California public schools teach children to accept and embrace transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality.

    In the March 28 amended version of the bill, the author strengthens the damage her bill would do to impressionable schoolchildren. Not content with prohibiting curriculum from “reflecting adversely” on any sexual behavior, Senator Sheila Kuehl now openly and specifically requires positive portrayals of transsexual, bisexual, and homosexual lifestyles in ALL curriculum, for children as young as kindergarten.

    SB 1437 places the following bolded language into Education Code Section 51204.5:

    “Instruction in social sciences shall include the early history of California and an age-appropriate study of the role and contributions of both men and women, black Americans, American Indians, Mexicans, Asians, Pacific Island people, and other ethnic groups, and people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, to the economic, political, and social development of California and the United States of America, with particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society.”

    Clearly, these new, sexually-charged words mean history and other social science classes would be mandated to teach schoolchildren that they should accept, and perhaps embrace for themselves, all types of sexual lifestyles -- specifically, transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality.

    Then, extending beyond social science classes, SB 1437 mandates that transsexual, bisexual, and homosexual lifestyles must be included in ALL textbooks and instructional materials at ALL public schools. SB 1437 does this by placing the following bolded language into Education Code Section 60040:

    “When adopting instructional materials for use in the schools, governing boards shall include only instructional materials which, in their determination, accurately portray the cultural, racial, gender, and sexual diversity of our society, including:

    (a)The contributions of both men and women in all types of roles, including professional, vocational, and executive roles.

    (b)The role and contributions of Native Americans, African
    Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, European Americans, and members of other ethnic and cultural groups to the total development of California and the United States.

    (c)The contributions of people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender to the total development of California and the United States.

    (d)The role and contributions of the entrepreneur and labor in the total development of California and the United States."

    By requiring everything in California public schools to accept, embrace, teach, and promote transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality, SB 1437 penetrates the academic purpose of schools with sexual, social engineering targeting children as young as kindergarten.

    6. The May 1 amendments regarding “age-appropriate” are a deceptive attempt to argue that SB 1437 won’t sexually indoctrinate young children.

    In a weak attempt to claim that SB 1437 will not affect impressionable schoolchildren as young as kindergarten, the bill’s author, Senator Sheila James Kuehl, inserted the words “age-appropriate”:

    “Instruction in social sciences shall include the early history of California and an age-appropriate study of the role and contributions of both men and women, black Americans, American Indians, Mexicans, Asians, Pacific Island people, and other ethnic groups, and people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, to the economic, political, and social development of California and the United States of America, with particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society.”
    -- SB 1437, Sec. 1.

    But what is and who determines what is “age-appropriate?” Nowhere in SB 1437 is this term defined. It’s clear that local schools and parents will NOT be able to decide that teaching children about transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality is inappropriate. Therefore, the sexual information regarding transsexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality is not limited. For example, this year a Massachusetts teacher read her second-grade class a book celebrating same-sex “marriages,” apparently because she believed it “age-appropriate.” This undefined phrase is essentially meaningless. What we do know is the sexual indoctrination of SB 1437 will reach children as young as kindergarten. Even the Senate Education Committee’s official analysis acknowledges that children in 1st grade will be affected:

    “Under the state Constitution, and statutory law, the State Board of Education adopts instructional materials to be used in grades 1 through 8 and local governing boards adopt materials for grades 9 through 12.” -- Senate Education Committee, SB 1437 Analysis.

    The additional fact that SB 1437 adopts broad, fully-encompassing terms such as “all” or “any” and “shall” to describe the scope of its mandate, proves that, whatever its supporters claim, SB 1437 will undeniably affect our youngest schoolchildren.

    CONCLUSION

    There’s no mistaking that the California Department of Education will use SB 1437 to erase all traditional distinctions of gender or sexual standards. Those who doubt the ultimate impact of this bill, thinking “It isn’t that bad,” proves how the trans-bi-homosexual movement is already establishing a foothold against the traditional family.







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    Now that you understand exactly how SB 1437, disguised as an anti-discrimination bill, would sexually indoctinate impressionable schoolchildren and trample local school district control, make your voice heard now.

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    If they want to have homosexuals in a regular story line that's fine. But I don't think they should be teaching children anything about sex, hetrosexual or homosexual until middle school or so. At that point once kids already know what those things are I don't think it would be bad to highlight contributions that homosexuals have made to society. I think that gay families are fine as they are based on the same traditional family structure that works very well. It's when you get too far away from that (like foster care and dead beat dads) that you start having problems. Getting rid of things like prom king and queen are silly but I still think that in America we should treat people equally regardless of their sexual orientation.

    But in the inner cities where you have children who are barely or not even teenagers getting pregnant I guess they have to teach them about sex much earlier than in regular America society.
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    Re: Communist quote

    Quote Originally Posted by curiouspat
    Actually, I don't think they're paranoid. I think I remember something similar and am trying to find the quote and author for you. It's from a long time ago!
    You're giving the illegals too much credit. You really think they're that smart?
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    Museum of Communism FAQ

    We will see a new slave state in which illegal Mexican aliens are given new rights and American native citizens are thrown out of work and forced into slavery. This has all happened before in Russia:

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    What were the most important human rights violations committed by Stalin?
    Joseph Stalin won a leading role in the Communist Party during Lenin's failing years, and after a few years of power-sharing he obtained dictatorial powers that exceeded even those of Lenin. In recent years, historians have gradually recognized that Stalin was personally responsible for the murder of more people than any other human being in the 20th century - and probably any other century. Stalin took Lenin's system of slave labor camps and turned it into a vast secret empire in the depths of Siberia. Lenin chose to let millions starve to death in order to sustain his war effort, but Stalin went further by deliberately engineering famines on an even greater scale. Finally, Stalin crossed the one line that Lenin would not, by ordering the executions of fellow Communists on a massive scale.


    Deaths due to extreme hardship conditions in slave labor camps
    Lenin pioneered the slave labor camp, but Stalin expanded it literally a hundredfold. Under Lenin, the inmates numbered fewer than 100,000. By 1930, they numbered 1,000,000. By 1940, the Gulag Archipelago housed fully 10,000,000 pitiful souls. The death rate was extraordinary: 10-30% per year, for the prisoners performed demanding labor such as mining and timber-cutting with minimal food and clothing in freezing temperatures. The slaves were ruled by an elite of secret police, now known as the NKVD. As Robert Conquest describes:


    In the vast empty spaces in the north and the Far East, areas as big as fair-sized countries came under complete NKVD control. There were many camps scattered through the Urals, in the Archangel area, and more especially in and around Karaganda and on the new railway being built from Turkestan to Siberia. But in these, the NKVD administered only comparatively small enclaves... The two biggest true colonies of the NKVD empire were the great stretch of northwestern Russia beyond the Kotlas, comprising roughly what is shown on the map as the Komi Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, and the even vaster area of the Far East centered on the gold fields of Kolyma. These regions had, before the NKVD took over, populations of a handful of Russians and a few thousand Arctic tribesmen. A decade later, they held between them something between 1.25 and 2 million prisoners. (The Great Terror)

    Who were the prisoners? Before Stalin's collectivization of agriculture, the composition was quite mixed. Anyone who opposed the Communists, from Czarist reactionary to Social Revolutionary, might be consigned to the camps. While almost invariably innocent of any definite action against their government, they were perceived as potential enemies. After 1930, the composition of the camps drastically changed. Suddenly, millions upon millions of peasant families were sentenced to Siberia. Stalin called them "kulaks," or wealthy farmers, though in fact any peasant somehow caught up in resistance to forced collectivization was labeled a "kulak." As the democratic socialist Carl Landauer observes:

    Between the persecution of the Armenians by the Turks during the First World War and the extermination of "undesirable" races by Hitler, the Bolshevik campaign against the kulaks and the former bourgeois was probably the only instance in which large masses of men, women, and children were by administrative order dislodged from their places of habitation and brought into camps where many, if not most of them, were sure to perish - and were meant to perish. (European Socialism: A History of Ideas and Movements)

    After Stalin crushed peasant resistance, the enormous death rate in the slave labor camps ensured that the number of inmates could not remain steady - unless more and more people were declared enemies of the people and sentenced to Siberia. Stalin claimed to find conspiracies and enemies everywhere. "Kulaks" were blamed for all agricultural failures, while "wreckers" bore responsibility for industrial disasters. Intellectuals, ethnic leaders, and officers in the military became targets. Anyone with contact with foreign countries could be easily declared a spy. Then Stalin began to target fellow Communists, purging them for left deviations, right deviations, treason, and espionage. As Conquest notes, at the 1939 Party Congress, "Of the 1,966 delegates to the [1934] Congress, 1,108 had been arrested for counter-revolutionary crimes." (The Great Terror) Sentences to Siberia were their typical fate. Foreign Communists living in the USSR, especially foreign Communists from non-democratic countries, almost invariably wound up in Siberia. Even the NKVD itself was purged, so that the secret policeman of today might be the inmate of tomorrow.
    After Stalin was satisfied with the composition of the Communist Party, new waves of victims arose. Millions of Poles were sent to slave labor camps in 1939 when Stalin and Hitler divided Poland. In 1940, Stalin annexed the Baltic states and sent 2-4% of their populations to the slave camps. During World War II, any ethnicity deemed disloyal was likely to be deported en masse: ethnic Germans - including the Volga Germans who had lived in Russia for centuries - were deported to Siberia, along with Chechens, Crimean Tatars, and other nationalities. With the end of World War II, the prison population was replenished not only with German POWs, and German civilians (including ethnic Germans scattered across Europe), but with Soviet POWs. Stalin considered captured Soviet soldiers to be traitors, so they had the opportunity to perform slave labor for Stalin as well as Hitler.

    Stalin's slave empire lasted so long and went through so many waves of victims that one is left speechless. So many millions perished within the Gulag Archipelago for so many reasons, or for no reason. With a minimum of 5,000,000 slave laborers from 1931 to 1950, and a minimum death toll of 10% per year - both improbably low figures - one can conclude that Stalin's camps claimed a minimum of 10,000,000 victims, and easily two or three times as many.


    Deaths due to man-made famine.
    Lenin knew that his agricultural policies might cause widespread famine, but implemented them anyway. Stalin went further. Not only did he know that his policies would cause widespread famine; he turned famine into a political weapon by deliberately and selectively amplifying its horrors. Lenin nominally gave peasants the title to their land, while effectively expropriating them by forcing them to sell their crops for a pittance. Stalin went further by ordering the forced collectivization of agriculture. The peasants lost their land and became employees of the state; moreover, they had to obtain government permission to quit their jobs, which was often impossible to obtain. State-owned serf plantations had returned to Russia after a 70-year lapse.

    Naturally, reducing landed free peasants to serfs required massive application of government force. Wealthy, prominent, or recalcitrant peasants were dubbed "kulaks" and deported to Siberia. Still the peasants resisted; food production drastically declined, farm animals were slaughtered, and surplus grain ferreted away. In 1930, the peasants' reaction to forced collectivization was so extreme that even Stalin backed away. But this was only a tactical retreat, and by 1934 90% of sown acreage in the USSR was owned by collective (i.e., government) farms.

    Food production of all kinds drastically declined. Slave labor in the fields proved far less efficient than free labor; the harvest of grain and other crops shrank. The herds of livestock often declined by 50% or more by either slaughter before collectivization, or neglect after collectivization. But Stalin was not interested in total food production, but in how much food he could squeeze out of the peasants without compensation. The collective farms were ordered to surrender their quota of food to the state, under severe penalty. As Conquest explains, "The basic principle was that a certain amount of grain must be delivered to the state regardless, and that this demand must be satisfied before the needs of the peasantry could be taken into consideration. A law of 16 October 1931 forbade reserving grain for internal kolkhoz [collective farm] needs until the procurement plan was fulfilled." (The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine) If production declined, it could be taken out of the hides of the peasants. This was precisely what Stalin had in mind.

    From the outset, the quotas set for delivery were far too high, especially considering the decline in total production. As the peasants began to face severe hunger, in 1932, one might have expected the quotas to be reduced - especially since Stalin actually had grain to export. But instead, in early 1933 Stalin demanded still more food from the desperate peasantry. Yet his exactions were uneven: they were particularly inhuman for the Ukraine, Don, Kuban, and lower Volga - regions where popular sentiment against Communist oppression and Russification was strong. As Conquest notes, "Nor is it the case that the famine, or the excessive grain targets, were imposed on the most productive grain-producing areas as such, as a - mistaken or vicious - economic policy merely. There was no famine in the rich Russian 'Central Agricultural Region'; and on the other hand the grain-poor Ukrainian provinces of Volhynia and Podilia suffered along with the rest of the country." (The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine)

    All of the facts point to a deliberate effort to use starvation as a tool of genocide. Seed grain in 1932 in the Ukraine was for the first time taken from the peasants and stored in urban granaries: officials realized that once starvation set in the peasants would try to eat the seed grain. The Ukrainian-Russian border was carefully guarded to keep Russian grain out of the famine-stricken Ukraine and starving Ukrainians out of Russia. Government grain stockpiles were available, but unused.

    This mixture of ruthless methods resulted in the starvation deaths of about 7 million people: 5 million in the Ukraine, 1 million in the North Caucasus region, and 1 million elsewhere. On top of this, a similar collectivization campaign carried out against the nomads of Kazahkstan led to 1 million further deaths.

    The famine in 1933 was the worst under Stalin's rule, but not the last. Famines swept Eastern Europe and the USSR again after World War II, although here the Nazis bore part of the blame. Stalin also shares responsibility for the deaths - again mostly through hunger - of ethnic Germans expelled from Eastern Europe with the Red Army's advance. The Communist-dominated governments of Poland and Czechoslovakia shared with Stalin the blame for some 2 million unnatural deaths of ethnic Germans. (see Alfred-Maurice de Zayas, A Terrible Revenge: The Ethnic Cleansing of the East European Germans, 1944- 1950)


    Executions
    On April 7, 1935, Stalin issued a decree authorizing the death penalty for children as young as 12 years old. While far more of Stalin's subjects died in slave labor camps and man-made famines than from execution, even here the numbers are startling. There were approximately one million executions during the Great Terror of 1936-1939, and probably over five million for his entire reign. The executed were often Stalin's opponents within the Party, or his less eager friends, or foreign Communists. Large numbers of officers were executed. Polish POWs taken in 1939 were executed en masse in Katyn and elsewhere. Almost all of Stalin's comrades in the Russian Civil War were executed or assassinated at his orders: Trotsky, Zinoviev, Bukharin, Kamenev, Rykov, Tomsky, and (as recent discoveries confirm) Kirov. Many of these were tortured, bullied, and threatened into condemning themselves in the so-called "show trials," where they absurdly confessed to large-scale espionage and subversion. The poetic justice of the trials of Stalin's ex-comrades is palpable, since a Nuremberg-style trial of the Communist leadership for crimes against humanity would have condemned most of them to death. So numerous were Stalin's victims that amongst the oceans of innocents executed, justice occasionally accidentally descended upon the guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazybird
    paranoia
    Once any of the public assistance places are in your life or if you have a child that doesn't conform to the clone profile, you will have unwanted "helpful" people telling you what to do. Especially if you are on the lower end of the earning scale.
    Job security. They need to "process" a minimum number of victims in order to justify their being hired by the state. A cooperative working class American is just right for their purposes.

    Your thinking is right on track.

    I am a typical WASP - White Western European origin male - and I have been labeled as having "mental problems" when I discovered that Ford Motor company in Dearborn used their diversity and multicultural hiring process to discriminate against hiring White American Males (and the Ford Foundation seems to be a champion of anti-American pro "immigrant" rights).

    Your instincts are always right and the corrupt machine of the state will always sniff you out...

    Is it any coincidence that the largest medical welfare benefits increase in history helps put psychologically manipulating drugs into the hands of elderly people? George Bush? Mind altering drugs?

    http://minutemanhq.com/b2/index.php/nat ... 03/22/p481

    Who's pulling strings of illegal alien activists?
    CFR globalists, Ford Foundation, Soros among puppeteers
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=49571

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    Is all this immigration chaos part of their plan, and is Bush allowing it to happen?
    Yes, absolutely.

    The leaders of the Chicano movement are marxist communists, by their own admission and writings. Their general premise is that the U.S. needs to be overthrown because it supports imperialism (in the "communist" thinking, any country NOT communist..."supports imperialism").

    IN the communist mindset, the U.S. is the great Satan because it is the flagship nation that promotes Free Enterprise and Capitalism, which - according to them - is inherently exploitative.

    The U.S. citizens will never agree to martial law as long as they have predictability, safety, the right to property, and the ability to accumulate wealth or resources on their side.

    The only solution is therefore to introduce economic and POLITICAL instability into the Nation. When the millions and millions of Illegal Squatters come to oppress the people and increase corruption and force local people to fight for jobs, that results in less and less stability.

    The point is not the illegals...the point is the instability that they introduce.

    The result is either 1) more instability or 2) growing calls for a stronger response by the State.

    However, most of the time, the State almost always cracks down on the wrong segment of society because that is the fastest way that the government can increase ITS OWN power.

    All these steps, giving the ports away, turning over security to others, making sure that the borders do not work, attacking the right to private property, and NOW attacking the Stability of the Election System,

    all of these things are designed to take the strength and the stability out of America, and reduce it to a country that can be split, torn appart and Balkanized, --- just like Checko-slovakia.

    When the U.S. is reduced to a collection of separate regions, then the people will be much more easy...to manage and control


    People will continue to NOT believe this...

    they will even say " I Can't believe it"

    or "I can't believe its happening"...


    meanwhile the screws continue to be tightened...and both parties are working to do this...

    We can already see the prototype of this in the Public Schools.

    The goals was to ensure that those students learn about their allegiance to the United Nations, and that the school works against parents, and contributes to the deliquency of the kids.

    That is exactly what takes place. Reading lessons ensure that the kids cant read, math class are usually not taught, and history lessons are indoctrination into kids for reasons to HATE the USA and the Founding Fathers.

    Any kids who acts up (especially if a boy) can expect a heavy dose of Prozac or Ritalin. If they continue, they have a psychological file that follows them for the rest of their life, and if parents interfere, they can be cited, fined, and more and more Jailed.

    The teachers don't have to know what is going on. Their only requirement is to teach the lesson, regardless of truth or historical accuracy.

    Of course if the schools are forced to ALSO teach the same lesson in Spanish, this can often mean that the learning time of the Student is cut by 50%, (presuming they were learning in anycase).

    The leaders of these movements, whether LaRaza or the NEA are very organized, conscious about what they are doing, and on the record.

    Its the mobilization of different areas of society, for the attack against that society and against that culture. In political terms, in every other country where this has happened, it is called a communist takeover.

    Time magazine did a survey awhile ago and found more than 10,000 (ten thousand) college teachers were communist. Eventually, that kind of momentum produces results.

    And this is not the end of their agenda. We are barely barely at the beginning.

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    Any kids who acts up (especially if a boy) can expect a heavy dose of Prozac or Ritalin. If they continue, they have a psychological file

    and I have been labeled as having "mental problems" when I discovered that Ford Motor company in Dearborn used their diversity and multicultural hiring process to discriminate against hiring White American Males

    as I was saying...


    These communists reverse the moral order...literally...what is up is down...what is right is left...what is evil is good...what is good is destructive...and what is accurate is now a sign of "mental imbalance"...


    These people use every means of leverage to try to convince us that we are the crazy ones. No, that is a bunch of BS. It is simply THEY who are trying to make us that way...


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    Is it any coincidence that the largest medical welfare benefits increase in history helps put psychologically manipulating drugs into the hands of elderly people? George Bush? Mind altering drugs?

    I forgot to add: what do George Bush and his family, have in common with Dan Quayle /

    The answer is ELY LILLY, THeiR Stock, and prescriptions that are designed to control social behavior.

    No coincidence that the white house came out and announced it was Backing the FORCED mental testing of every adult in the U.S, with OR WITHOUT their consent.

    The legislation has been on hold ever since people started screaming about the implementation of this plan already in Texas and Illinois.
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    I don't doubt it in the least, but do you have any links I can read on my own?

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