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    Coulter: Trump Should Deport Nikki Haley

    Posted By Derek Hunter On 11:42 PM 01/12/2016

    Conservative columnist Ann Coulter is known for her passion. Her latest book, “Adios, America,” lays out the case against immigration, both legal and illegal.

    Coulter’s passion on the immigration issue has led her to being a huge supporter of GOP front-runner Donald Trump. That fondness for Trump has also led Coulter to defend the candidate from critics. One such critic is South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley.

    Haley delivered the GOP response to President Barack Obama’s State of the Union Address. In it, the governor delivered what many saw as a slam on Trump.

    Haley said, “During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation. No one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country.”

    She also added, “Some people think that you have to be the loudest voice in the room to make a difference. That is just not true. Often, the best thing we can do is turn down the volume.”

    These were viewed as direct assaults on Donald Trump.

    After hearing Haley’s speech, Coulter unleashed a flurry of attacks on Haley.


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    Trump should deport Nikki Haley.
    7:31 PM - 12 Jan 2016


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    Nikki Haley: "No one who is willing to work hard should ever be turned away." That's the definition of open borders.
    7:31 PM - 12 Jan 2016


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    Nikki Haley says "welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of religion." Translation: let in all the Muslims.
    7:32 PM - 12 Jan 2016


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    Hey Nikki - how can you "vet" if you can't look at religion?
    7:33 PM - 12 Jan 2016


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    Haley: Let in unlimited immigrants "just like we have for centuries." Has she read a history book? Coolidge shut it down for 1/2 a century.
    7:34 PM - 12 Jan 2016


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    Nikki Haley: "The best thing we can do is turn down the volume" Translation: Voters need to shut the hell up.
    7:36 PM - 12 Jan 2016

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/12/co...t-nikki-haley/
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    Who said it: Nikki Haley or Barack Obama

    By Rebekah Metzler, CNN

    Updated 11:51 PM ET, Tue January 12, 2016

    Washington (CNN )Both President Barack Obama and Republican South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley -- who delivered the GOP rebuttal to the State of the Union -- seemed to speak directly to Donald Trump at times on Tuesday night. In fact, they had strikingly similar messages of tolerance and bipartisanship.

    While they wouldn't agree on much policy, at many moments their speeches sounded very similar.

    Can you tell the difference?

    1) We need to be honest with each other, and with ourselves: While Democrats in Washington bear much responsibility for the problems facing America today, they do not bear it alone. There is more than enough blame to go around.

    2) Today, we live in a time of threats like few others in recent memory. During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation.

    3) Anyone claiming that America's economy is in decline is peddling fiction.

    4) No one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country.

    5) Many of our best corporate citizens are also our most creative.

    6) We need to reject any politics that targets people because of race or religion. This isn't a matter of political correctness. It's a matter of understanding what makes us strong.

    7) We must fix our broken immigration system. That means stopping illegal immigration. And it means welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of their race or religion. Just like we have for centuries.

    When politicians insult Muslims, when a mosque is vandalized, or a kid bullied, that doesn't make us safer. That's not telling it like it is. It's just wrong.

    9) Some people think that you have to be the loudest voice in the room to make a difference. That is just not true. Often, the best thing we can do is turn down the volume. When the sound is quieter, you can actually hear what someone else is saying. And that can make a world of difference.

    10) As frustration grows, there will be voices urging us to fall back into tribes, to scapegoat fellow citizens who don't look like us, or pray like us, or vote like we do, or share the same background.

    Haley -- 1, 2, 4, 7, 9

    Obama -- 3, 5, 6, 8, 10

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    Nikki Haley jabs at Donald Trump in State of the Union response

    By Gregory Krieg, CNN

    Updated 12:58 AM ET, Wed January 13, 2016

    (CNN)The Republican Party tapped South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley to deliver its response to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address Tuesday night, but her most memorable jabs landed squarely on the GOP's own Donald Trump. That's a something that didn't escape -- or please -- some conservatives.

    Haley took clear aim at the GOP front-runner, discussing her family's immigrant experience while warning against rhetoric that would threaten "the dream that is America" for others.

    "During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices," Haley said from the governor's residence in Columbia. "We must resist that temptation. No one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country."

    Haley never mentioned Trump by name, but the implication was clear. The billionaire, who has led the Republican race in most national polls for months, said after the Paris terror attacks he would consider creating a national database of American Muslims and later called for a temporary halt to Muslims entering the United States.

    Speaking to reporters in South Carolina a day after Trump proposed the ban, Haley dismissed it as "unconstitutional" and "an embarrassment" to the GOP.

    "It defies everything that this country was based on," she said. "It's just wrong."

    While those remarks passed mostly without comment in December, conservatives late Tuesday night lined up to take shots at Haley, with CNN political commentator Amanda Carpenter describing her speech as "GOP self-loathing."

    Conservative radio host Laura Ingraham expressed similar disappointment, writing that Haley had "missed her opportunity."

    "Trump should deport Nikki Haley," was one in a series of unhappy tweets from Ann Coulter, who also suggested a part of the speech roughly translated to "voters need to shut the hell up."

    The apparent digs at Trump aside, Haley's remarks were light on partisan hostility as she sought to cast blame for the perceived ills of government on both sides of the aisle.

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    "We need to be honest with each other, and with ourselves: while Democrats in Washington bear much responsibility for the problems facing America today, they do not bear it alone," she said. "There is more than enough blame to go around."

    "We as Republicans need to own that truth," Haley continued. "We need to recognize our contributions to the erosion of the public trust in America's leadership."

    Haley, 43, is the daughter of immigrants and the first Indian-American woman to serve as governor of a state below the Mason-Dixon line. Her status as a rising star and steely politician was solidified during a trying summer, as she managed her state's response to the church massacre in Charleston and championed the removal of the Confederate flag, which she described on Tuesday as "a symbol that was being used to divide us" from state grounds.

    Haley framed her experience in the aftermath of the shootings in contrast to what she described as "chaotic unrest in many of our cities."

    "Our state was struck with shock, pain, and fear," she said. "But our people would not allow hate to win. We didn't have violence, we had vigils. We didn't have riots, we had hugs."

    First elected in 2010, Haley's performance in South Carolina has earned her a place atop the list of potential Republican presidential running mates and fans across the country, including the most powerful man on Capitol Hill.

    "If you want to hear an inclusive leader who's visionary, who's got a path for the future, who's brought people together, who's unified, it's Nikki Haley," Paul Ryan, the Republican House speaker, told CNN's Jake Tapper Monday on "The Lead."

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    First elected in 2010, Haley's performance in South Carolina has earned her a place atop the list of potential Republican presidential running mates and fans across the country, including the most powerful man on Capitol Hill.
    Haley isn't eligible to be a presidential running mate. Like Cruz and Rubio she's not a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen under Article II of the Constitution is born in the US to 2 US citizens. Haley's parents weren't citizens when she was born.

    Haley framed her experience in the aftermath of the shootings in contrast to what she described as "chaotic unrest in many of our cities."

    "Our state was struck with shock, pain, and fear," she said. "But our people would not allow hate to win. We didn't have violence, we had vigils. We didn't have riots, we had hugs."
    Haley, my God, the comparison is incomparable. You took down a flag that shouldn't have been where it was to begin with. The people affected were multi-generational citizens of the United States. Yes, Americans know full well how to resolve our own differences. Welcome to America! Americans also know the power of protests, the Tea Party against the Brits, John Brown to end slavery, women's right to vote, equal rights for black Americans, equal rights for gay couples, anti-war demonstrations, anti-illegal immigration protests, Million Man March, Black Lives Matter, and so much more.

    And yes, some turned into riots, some even turned into War.

    You need to pick up a history book and learn about the country you think you're a part of now. Sounds to me like you've got a lot to learn before you make a speech telling Americans what we should think or do.

    And to Paul Ryan, you wasted a great opportunity to actually rebut Obama and as usual betrayed the Republican Party. I guess your goal was to prime up the base to support amnesty and comprehensive immigration reform? Well, that won't be happening.

    Is there a challenger against Ryan yet?
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    Obama Sets Up Contrast With Trump — and So Does the GOP response

    Jan 13 2016, 3:27 am ET
    by Benjy Sarlin and Alex Seitz-Wald

    President Barack Obama delivered a forceful State of the Union address Tuesday night in which he defended his record, set the stage for a Democratic successor to carry on his work, and — above all — warned Americans to steer clear of Donald Trump's bullying nativism.

    The president isn't on the ballot in 2016, and he made only passing references to the election. But the race was clearly on the president's mind and he will undoubtedly loom large in it. Hillary Clinton is currently pitching herself as the last line of defense for the president's achievements while every Republican is running on a pledge to tear them down.

    In many ways, the speech functioned as a point-by-point rejoinder to the long list of attacks Republican candidates have levied against his administration during the presidential race. It was almost as if, after a yearlong Friars Club Roast, the president finally got to take the podium and rebut his tormentors.

    "[A]ll the talk of America's economic decline is political hot air," Obama said at one point. "So is all the rhetoric you hear about our enemies getting stronger and America getting weaker."

    He was loose, dispensing with formality to go off script to offer "tips" to those campaigning in Iowa, mock critics who deny climate change and lament Washington's partisan deadlock. He took credit for gas falling under $2 a gallon, for the 14 million jobs created under his watch and for the falling deficit. In doing so, he offered a blueprint for the next Democratic nominee to defend his record.

    But there was a deadly serious undercurrent to the speech, especially when it turned to the politics of Trump, whose rise appears to have genuinely shaken the president. Without ever mentioning his name, Obama repeatedly decried the billionaire's hostile rhetoric and proposals regarding immigrants and Muslims as an empty, misguided and un-American response to the challenges faced by the country at home and abroad.

    The president recounted a long line of politicians across many eras "who told us to fear the future, who claimed we could slam the brakes on change, promising to restore past glory if we just got some group or idea that was threatening America under control," and were ultimately rejected by history.

    He urged Americans to "reject any politics that targets people because of race or religion" and said that doing so was not "political correctness," a clear reference to Trump's defining buzzword.

    "When politicians insult Muslims, whether abroad or our fellow citizens, when a mosque is vandalized, or a kid bullied, that doesn't make us safer, that's not telling it like it is: It's just wrong," the president said. "It diminishes us in the eyes of the world. It makes it harder to achieve our goals. And it betrays who we are as a country."

    In taking on Trumpism, Obama acknowledged Americans' frustration, but urged them to direct it elsewhere when it came to presidential politics. Specifically, he asked them to look toward reining in the Wall Street investors, corporations and big money conservative donors that the Democratic field is targeting in their own campaign speeches.

    "Food Stamp recipients didn't cause the financial crisis; recklessness on Wall Street did," Obama said. "Immigrants aren't the reason wages haven't gone up enough; those decisions are made in the boardrooms that too often put quarterly earnings over long-term returns."

    Always keenly aware of history and his place in it, Obama acknowledged his failure to prevent the current dark turn in politics while warning that it still had to be confronted. "It's one of the few regrets of my presidency — that the rancor and suspicion between the parties has gotten worse instead of better," he said, even suggesting that a greater president like Abraham Lincoln or Franklin Delano Roosevelt might have done better.

    With reasonably strong approval ratings and an ability to excite Democratic base voters, Obama will be one his party's most powerful spokespeople and fundraisers this year. He's likely to play both elder statesman and attack dog for the party's nominee and candidates for Congress and governorships.

    Aware of that power, he's already begun leveraging it to push Democrats on gun control, warning he will not campaign for any Democrat who does support his gun agenda.

    Clinton especially has tied herself to Obama's presidency, promising voters her presidency will Obama-plus. "America is better because of @POTUS' leadership. Proud to call him my friend. Let's build on his progress," she said on Twitter just before Obama's speech.

    Her top rival for the nomination, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who was in the chamber for Tuesday night's address, has had a more complicated relationship with the president. Much like the liberal base he's tapped into, Sanders seems conflicted between embracing the president and being disappointed Obama did not go far enough in delivering the change he promised.

    Sanders's normally very active Twitter account was silent during the two hours of Obama's remarks. "Tonight's speech was important. The president reminded us not to be afraid of change, but to wield it to improve the lives of all Americans," he tweeted after the speech.

    It perhaps wasn't surprising that Obama's speech was about setting up a contrast with Trump and the politics he represents heading into the election. More shocking was that the Republican response seemed to hit the exact same theme.

    South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, a potential vice presidential nominee and the daughter of Sikh Indian immigrants, delivered an impassioned plea for civility that often sounded like a rebuttal to Trump.

    "Today, we live in a time of threats like few others in recent memory," said Haley, a potential vice presidential nominee. "During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation."

    While calling for a tough line against illegal immigration, she also stressed the importance "welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of their race or religion."

    In recounting her leadership after a mass shooting at a historic black church in Charleston, which included a successful bipartisan effort to remove the Confederate flag from state grounds, she echoed Obama's call for a less divisive political conversation.

    "Some people think that you have to be the loudest voice in the room to make a difference," she said. "That is just not true. Often, the best thing we can do is turn down the volume."

    True to that theme, there was a shocking lack of red meat in Haley's response apart from a token mention of Obama's "disastrous health care program" and a pledge that Republicans would " make international agreements that were celebrated in Israel and protested in Iran, not the other way around."

    At one point she even asked Republicans to acknowledge that they too had fed Americans' frustrations with politics: "There is more than enough blame to go around," she said.

    The Republican presidential debates are aimed at whipping up primary voters, but the Republican State of the Union response is aimed at a general election audience. In that context, it seems significant that Haley made considerable effort to distance the party from its most strident — and sometimes, most popular — political rhetoric. In doing so, she offered perhaps the most vivid preview yet of how a Republican nominee might try to pivot to the center if they can shake Trump in the primaries.

    Trump, for his part, didn't seem too caught up in his starring role in the State of the Union across both parties.

    "The #SOTU speech is really boring, slow lethargic — very hard to watch!" he tweeted.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/poli...sponse-n495476

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    As a point, I don't believe the absence of members of Congress from the State of the Union is appropriate. Whether you're running for office or not, not attending the State of the Union is just wrong, whether you like the President or not, it's just irresponsible. Attending the State of the Union is an important duty of members of Congress in my opinion. When you can't take that job seriously enough to show up, then you're not qualified to step to another one.

    Shame on Rand Paul and Ted Cruz for not being there. Bernie Sanders and Marco Rubio attended, good for them.
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    Nikki Haley burned Donald Trump in her SOTU response
    Andrew Romano
    January 13, 2016

    Much of President Obama’s final State of the Union address was an implicit rebuke of the angry, nativist forces that have propelled Donald Trump to the top of nearly every Republican presidential primary poll.

    But the American people didn’t just hear one anti-Trump speech Tuesday night. They heard two.

    And the remarkable thing is that the other speech came from a member of Trump’s own party: South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley.

    Never before has a SOTU responder used the address to criticize his or her party’s presidential frontrunner. Which just goes to show how divided the GOP is right now — and how much anxiety mainstream Republicans are feeling over Trump’s continued dominance.

    To be sure, Haley hit the usual marks in her response.

    She criticized Obama, pointing to “a crushing national debt, a health care plan that has made insurance less affordable and doctors less available, and chaotic unrest in many of our cities” as proof that his “record has often fallen far short of his soaring words.”

    She also claimed that a Republican president would do better.

    “We would end a disastrous health care program, and replace it with reforms that lowered costs and actually let you keep your doctor,” Haley said. “We would make international agreements that were celebrated in Israel and protested in Iran, not the other way around.“

    But the most memorable parts of Haley’s speech were the ones directed at The Donald and his followers.

    “Today, we live in a time of threats like few others in recent memory,” Haley said. “During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation.”

    Making it clear that Trump was her target, Haley immediately moved on to his signature issue: immigration.

    “No one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country,” she said. “I have no doubt that if we act with proper focus, we can protect our borders, our sovereignty and our citizens, all while remaining true to America’s noblest legacies.“

    Haley is herself the daughter of Indian immigrants. But for much of her governorship — she was elected in 2010 and reelected in 2014 — she was hardly a civil rights crusader. During her initial run for governor, Haley even opposed removing the Confederate battle flag from the grounds of the South Carolina State House, saying the flag was “not something that is racist,” but rather “a tradition that people feel proud of.”

    Yet after 21-year-old white supremacist Dylann Roof shot and killed nine African-Americans at Charleston’s Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church during a June 17 prayer service, Haley’s views began to change, and over the summer, she wound up leading the charge to take down the flag.

    In her response Tuesday night, Haley pointed to that experience as a "lesson” for her party — and, in particular, its divisive frontrunner.

    “In many parts of society today, whether in popular culture, academia, the media or politics, there’s a tendency to falsely equate noise with results,” Haley said. “Some people think that you have to be the loudest voice in the room to make a difference. That is just not true. Often, the best thing we can do is turn down the volume. When the sound is quieter, you can actually hear what someone else is saying. And that can make a world of difference.“

    Haley is everything Republicans wanted in 2016: youth, diversity, inclusion. Trump is what they got. Her SOTU response was a reminder of what could have been.

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    Haley is everything Republicans wanted in 2016: youth, diversity, inclusion. Trump is what they got. Her SOTU response was a reminder of what could have been.
    Whoa! Wrong! When Republicans talk about "inclusion", which is a Democratic term for the Republican goal of unity, we're talking about unity of citizens, not more immigrants we don't need or want. Republicans have never sought out "diversity", we have always stood for equal rights and civil rights for our citizens and fought for over 200 years to achieve that and assimilation of immigrants into our culture and ways when Democrats would let them in against our will and best interest, not forcing US citizens to accept theirs. That's what Democrats have wanted to do to our country.

    Most Americans want our interests put first. Any Republican who claims there's something wrong with our voices because we're standing up and speaking out against massive immigration and free trade treason is someone who needs to sit down and shut up.

    How dare you, Nikki Haley? Shame on you.

    As for the "youth", that just means you've not been on the Earth long enough to know better or have the gumption to tell the truth and just parrot the "Establishment" that invited you to speak to promote your own career, because the loud and angry voices are US citizens fed up with being betrayed, sold out, humiliated, impoverished and indebted by the very heart and soul of the disgusting Political Correctness you epitomized in your speech tonight. Oh yes, the Establishment will rave, the Media will send Kudos, and Luntz and Krauthammer will label it the best ever response to a State of the Union Address.

    And that means, you didn't speak for US, Nikki, you sold US out.
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    Nikki Haley: Donald Trump has contributed to 'irresponsible talk'
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    South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley defended her response to Tuesday's State of the Union, confirming to TODAY's Matt Lauer she was referring to Donald Trump as one of the "angriest voices" she mentioned.

    "Mr. Trump has definitely contributed to what I think is just irresponsible talk," she told Matt in an interview Wednesday.

    Gov. Nikki Haley: I'd 'sit down and talk' with candidates about running for VP

    Haley angered some conservative pundits with her response to Obama's address by seemingly saving her sharpest criticism for those in her own party, particularly those running for the White House. While never mentioning anyone by name, she urged Republican candidates to tone down divisive rhetoric and urged Americans to resist "the siren call of the angriest voices."

    Haley said while Trump was "one of them," others have contributed to the vitriol.

    "There's other people in the media, there's people in my state, I think we're seeing it across the country," she said.

    In her response, Haley also said the nation should welcome all "properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of their race or religion," further angering conservatives who felt Haley failed to address their views.

    While many Democrats praised Haley's address, so did a few conservative pundits.

    Haley said that launching a full-scale partisan attack on Obama is not her style: "That's not me."

    While she blamed the the president for dividing the nation "in ways we've never seen before" on issues including the economy, education and national security, Haley said Republicans also need "to look in the mirror" and own up for their role in the nation's failures.

    "Republicans need to understand there are things we could do better that can help strengthen our country. I think it's important that Republicans look in the mirror and realize, we also are to blame," she said.

    Asked if her response has had an impact on her chances being asked to be a vice presidential running mate, Haley said she hadn't given it much thought.

    "I was given an opportunity to say what I think," she said of her role. But Haley said if approached by one of the candidates, "I absolutely would sit down and talk with anyone that wanted to talk."

    Until then, she said she needed to focus on rolling out the South Carolina budget and the state of the state address she was scheduled to make next week.

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    Nikki Haley sure has turned out to be a real disappointment in a Lindsey Graham kind of way.

    This is what happens in states that allow Democrats to vote in GOP primaries like in South Carolina.

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