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01-13-2016, 06:02 AM #1
As a point, I don't believe the absence of members of Congress from the State of the Union is appropriate. Whether you're running for office or not, not attending the State of the Union is just wrong, whether you like the President or not, it's just irresponsible. Attending the State of the Union is an important duty of members of Congress in my opinion. When you can't take that job seriously enough to show up, then you're not qualified to step to another one.
Shame on Rand Paul and Ted Cruz for not being there. Bernie Sanders and Marco Rubio attended, good for them.A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
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01-13-2016, 06:17 AM #2
Nikki Haley burned Donald Trump in her SOTU response
Andrew Romano
January 13, 2016
Much of President Obama’s final State of the Union address was an implicit rebuke of the angry, nativist forces that have propelled Donald Trump to the top of nearly every Republican presidential primary poll.
But the American people didn’t just hear one anti-Trump speech Tuesday night. They heard two.
And the remarkable thing is that the other speech came from a member of Trump’s own party: South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley.
Never before has a SOTU responder used the address to criticize his or her party’s presidential frontrunner. Which just goes to show how divided the GOP is right now — and how much anxiety mainstream Republicans are feeling over Trump’s continued dominance.
To be sure, Haley hit the usual marks in her response.
She criticized Obama, pointing to “a crushing national debt, a health care plan that has made insurance less affordable and doctors less available, and chaotic unrest in many of our cities” as proof that his “record has often fallen far short of his soaring words.”
She also claimed that a Republican president would do better.
“We would end a disastrous health care program, and replace it with reforms that lowered costs and actually let you keep your doctor,” Haley said. “We would make international agreements that were celebrated in Israel and protested in Iran, not the other way around.“
But the most memorable parts of Haley’s speech were the ones directed at The Donald and his followers.
“Today, we live in a time of threats like few others in recent memory,” Haley said. “During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation.”
Making it clear that Trump was her target, Haley immediately moved on to his signature issue: immigration.
“No one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country,” she said. “I have no doubt that if we act with proper focus, we can protect our borders, our sovereignty and our citizens, all while remaining true to America’s noblest legacies.“
Haley is herself the daughter of Indian immigrants. But for much of her governorship — she was elected in 2010 and reelected in 2014 — she was hardly a civil rights crusader. During her initial run for governor, Haley even opposed removing the Confederate battle flag from the grounds of the South Carolina State House, saying the flag was “not something that is racist,” but rather “a tradition that people feel proud of.”
Yet after 21-year-old white supremacist Dylann Roof shot and killed nine African-Americans at Charleston’s Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church during a June 17 prayer service, Haley’s views began to change, and over the summer, she wound up leading the charge to take down the flag.
In her response Tuesday night, Haley pointed to that experience as a "lesson” for her party — and, in particular, its divisive frontrunner.
“In many parts of society today, whether in popular culture, academia, the media or politics, there’s a tendency to falsely equate noise with results,” Haley said. “Some people think that you have to be the loudest voice in the room to make a difference. That is just not true. Often, the best thing we can do is turn down the volume. When the sound is quieter, you can actually hear what someone else is saying. And that can make a world of difference.“
Haley is everything Republicans wanted in 2016: youth, diversity, inclusion. Trump is what they got. Her SOTU response was a reminder of what could have been.
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01-13-2016, 06:40 AM #3Whoa! Wrong! When Republicans talk about "inclusion", which is a Democratic term for the Republican goal of unity, we're talking about unity of citizens, not more immigrants we don't need or want. Republicans have never sought out "diversity", we have always stood for equal rights and civil rights for our citizens and fought for over 200 years to achieve that and assimilation of immigrants into our culture and ways when Democrats would let them in against our will and best interest, not forcing US citizens to accept theirs. That's what Democrats have wanted to do to our country.Haley is everything Republicans wanted in 2016: youth, diversity, inclusion. Trump is what they got. Her SOTU response was a reminder of what could have been.
Most Americans want our interests put first. Any Republican who claims there's something wrong with our voices because we're standing up and speaking out against massive immigration and free trade treason is someone who needs to sit down and shut up.
How dare you, Nikki Haley? Shame on you.
As for the "youth", that just means you've not been on the Earth long enough to know better or have the gumption to tell the truth and just parrot the "Establishment" that invited you to speak to promote your own career, because the loud and angry voices are US citizens fed up with being betrayed, sold out, humiliated, impoverished and indebted by the very heart and soul of the disgusting Political Correctness you epitomized in your speech tonight. Oh yes, the Establishment will rave, the Media will send Kudos, and Luntz and Krauthammer will label it the best ever response to a State of the Union Address.
And that means, you didn't speak for US, Nikki, you sold US out.A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation - Ronald Reagan
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01-13-2016, 10:21 AM #4
Nikki Haley: Donald Trump has contributed to 'irresponsible talk'
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by Taboola
South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley defended her response to Tuesday's State of the Union, confirming to TODAY's Matt Lauer she was referring to Donald Trump as one of the "angriest voices" she mentioned.
"Mr. Trump has definitely contributed to what I think is just irresponsible talk," she told Matt in an interview Wednesday.
Gov. Nikki Haley: I'd 'sit down and talk' with candidates about running for VP
Haley angered some conservative pundits with her response to Obama's address by seemingly saving her sharpest criticism for those in her own party, particularly those running for the White House. While never mentioning anyone by name, she urged Republican candidates to tone down divisive rhetoric and urged Americans to resist "the siren call of the angriest voices."
Haley said while Trump was "one of them," others have contributed to the vitriol.
"There's other people in the media, there's people in my state, I think we're seeing it across the country," she said.
In her response, Haley also said the nation should welcome all "properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of their race or religion," further angering conservatives who felt Haley failed to address their views.
While many Democrats praised Haley's address, so did a few conservative pundits.
Haley said that launching a full-scale partisan attack on Obama is not her style: "That's not me."
While she blamed the the president for dividing the nation "in ways we've never seen before" on issues including the economy, education and national security, Haley said Republicans also need "to look in the mirror" and own up for their role in the nation's failures.
"Republicans need to understand there are things we could do better that can help strengthen our country. I think it's important that Republicans look in the mirror and realize, we also are to blame," she said.
Asked if her response has had an impact on her chances being asked to be a vice presidential running mate, Haley said she hadn't given it much thought.
"I was given an opportunity to say what I think," she said of her role. But Haley said if approached by one of the candidates, "I absolutely would sit down and talk with anyone that wanted to talk."
Until then, she said she needed to focus on rolling out the South Carolina budget and the state of the state address she was scheduled to make next week.
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01-13-2016, 11:29 AM #5
Nikki Haley sure has turned out to be a real disappointment in a Lindsey Graham kind of way.
This is what happens in states that allow Democrats to vote in GOP primaries like in South Carolina.
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Their is a sickness within the Republican party - she does not get to speak such words w/o their approval. They better wise up or they will lose again and bring further decline to our nation as there are many opportunities for positive change with Mr Trump. He does not seem to be part of the globalists agenda, therefore they do not want him elected - disgraceful.
O has been aided and abetted by the Republican party's elected officials. Nothing every changes, he gets everything he wants and the monies to do it too. How many times do you hear impeachment and nothing gets done?
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01-13-2016, 12:24 PM #7
Haley: Yes, Trump is one of the 'angriest voices'
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David Jackson, USA TODAY 10:55 a.m. EST January 13, 2016
The morning after her televised response to President Obama's State of the Union speech, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley confirmed Wednesday that fellow Republican Donald Trump is among the "angriest voices" she denounced.
"He was one of them, yes," Haley said on NBC's Today show. "There's other people in the media, there's people in my state. I think we're seeing it across the country.
"But yes, Mr. Trump has definitely contributed to what I think is just irresponsible talk."
In her speech late Tuesday, the South Carolina governor said that, "during anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation."
Haley has criticized Trump, the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, over his call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States.
In her speech, Haley said: “No one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country."
Trump responded by calling Haley "very weak" on immigration.
"I feel very strongly about illegal immigration. She doesn’t," he told Fox & Friends. Trump added that her taking shots at him was "interesting" given that she has asked him for campaign contributions in the past.
"Perhaps if I weren’t running, she’d be in my office asking me for money," he said. Campaign finance records show Trump has given Haley $7,000 in contributions since 2010.
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01-13-2016, 01:00 PM #8
'Very weak on illegal immigration': Donald Trump fires back at South Carolina governor after State of the Union snub
Colin Campbell
2h Jan 13, 2016
Real-estate mogul Donald Trump criticized South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R) on Wednesday after she took a subtle jab at him the day before.
Haley gave the official Republican response to President Barack Obama's final State of the Union speech. Haley urged the public to resist the "angriest voices" and later confirmed that Trump was one of the people she was referencing.
"Yes, Mr. Trump has definitely contributed to what I think is just irresponsible talk," Haley said on NBC's "Today" show.
Trump, the Republican presidential front-runner, responded by calling Haley "very weak" on illegal immigration during a "Fox & Friends" interview.
"I respond a couple of ways. Number one, she's very weak on illegal immigration. I've known that for a long time. But she's weak on illegal immigration. And she certainly has no trouble asking me for campaign contributions. Because over the years, she's asked me for a hell of a lot of money in campaign contributions. So it's sort of interesting to hear her," Trump mused.
"So perhaps if I weren't running, she'd be in my office asking me for money," the billionaire businessman added. "But now that I'm running, she wants to take a weak side on immigration. I feel very strongly about illegal immigration. She doesn't."
One of the "Fox & Friends" hosts then asked Trump if he would select Haley as his vice president. Trump suggested that she wasn't a front-runner for his hypothetical ticket.
"Well, considering I'm leading in the polls by a lot, I wouldn't say she's off to a good start based on what she has just said," Trump said. "So let's see what happens. We'll pick somebody, but we'll pick somebody who's very good. But whoever I pick is also going to be very strong on illegal immigration. We've had it — we've had it — with illegal immigration, believe me, and a lot of other things."
Trump also praised South Carolina's voters, who weigh-in early during the Republican primary.
"I love her state," he said. "I'm there a lot. And by the way, I have a massive lead in South Carolina — we have a massive lead — and they're incredible people. And they feel like I do, believe me. Because they don't like what's happening in our country."
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01-13-2016, 01:04 PM #9
Nikki Haley has given into the Establishment, moves to the dark side
Nikki Haley, just like Trey Gowdy who supports open-borders Marco Rubio, has moved to the dark side!
Seems Nikki has forgotten the "loud angry people" are the ones who put her in office, thinking she would stand up to the Establishment which is destroying our country from within.
JWK
To support Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders, which panders to the Chamber of Commerce, the Club for Growth and our Global Governance Crowd
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01-13-2016, 03:39 PM #10
Trump fires back at Obama and Nikki Haley
After being a punching bag in the State of the Union, Trump counters with his own blows.
By Nick Gass
01/13/16 09:15 AM EST
Updated 01/13/16 12:08 PM EST
Donald Trump got the distinct impression from Barack Obama's final State of the Union that the president doesn't like him much. Not that he cares.
The real estate mogul on Thursday hit back at both Obama and at South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who also warned about the dangers of Trump's rhetoric during her GOP response, though also not by name.
Trump, calling in to "Fox and Friends," denounced Obama's speech as the words of a man "living in a fantasy land." When co-host Steve Doocy remarked that it does not appear the president likes him, Trump responded, “I would say that’s probably true. He probably does not."
"You know, not very important to me, but I would say he probably doesn’t," the Republican candidate and poll leader said, reiterating his disdain for the president's failure to acknowledge "radical Islamic terrorism" after the San Bernardino attacks and other threats.
"He's living in a fantasy land. I think this man is living in a fantasy land," said Trump, who added that while "perhaps he was talking about somebody else, but some people think he might have been talking about me.” ("Sure sounded like it," a co-host remarked off-camera.)
Trump featured prominently and repeatedly in Obama's address, even though the president didn't utter his name. He hit at the real estate mogul and other GOP candidates for playing into Americans' base fears and ignoring the great strides the nation has made.
"Anyone claiming that America’s economy is in decline is peddling fiction. What is true — and the reason that a lot of Americans feel anxious — is that the economy has been changing in profound ways, changes that started long before the Great Recession hit and haven’t let up" Obama said. He continued later in the speech, "That’s why we need to reject any politics that targets people because of race or religion. This isn’t a matter of political correctness. It’s a matter of understanding what makes us strong."
It wasn't the first time Obama has implicitly called out Trump, who has zoomed to the top of the polls in early states and nationally as he has churned out incendiary proposals and heated rhetoric. He kicked off his campaign in June by calling for a giant wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, the mass deportation of undocumented immigrants, and a wake-up call about the "rapists" that Mexico was sending across the border. He again upended the race when he called for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States, after the terror attacks in Paris and San Bernardino.
Obama in early December condemned Trump just days after he rolled out his anti-Muslim plan. He used a speech honoring the 150th anniversary of the abolition of slavery to say, "Remember that our freedom is bound up with the freedom of others, regardless of what they look like or where they come from or what their last name is or what faith they practice."
Less than two weeks later, Obama again hit at Trump, saying in an interview with NPR that the real estate mogul was doing so well because he was exploiting the anxieties of "blue-collar men."
The president drove that message home on Tuesday night. "When politicians insult Muslims, when a mosque is vandalized, or a kid bullied, that doesn’t make us safer," Obama said . "That’s not telling it like it is. It’s just wrong. It diminishes us in the eyes of the world. It makes it harder to achieve our goals. And it betrays who we are as a country."
In the Republican response to Obama's address, Haley, who has been the subject of much speculation as a potential vice-presidential pick, warned Americans against following "the siren call of the angriest voices" in the country.
“Today, we live in a time of threats like few others in recent memory. During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices,” Haley said on Tuesday, adding that she is "the proud daughter of Indian immigrants who reminded my brothers, my sister and me every day how blessed we were to live in this country.”
Obama throws some SOTU elbows at Trump
Haley on Wednesday morning acknowledged Trump was one of the people she was singling out. "He was one of them, yes. He was one," Haley told Matt Lauer on NBC's "Today." "There's other people in the media, there's people in my state. I think we're seeing it across the country. But yes, Mr. Trump has definitely contributed to what I think is just irresponsible talk."
Trump, a master of the counterpunch, let loose on Haley Wednesday morning. He attacked her as being "very weak on illegal immigration" and surmised that if he were not running for president, she would be asking him for campaign cash.
"But she’s weak on illegal immigration, and she certainly has no trouble asking me for campaign contributions, ‘cause over the years she’s asked me for a hell of a lot of money in campaign contributions. So, you know, it’s sort of interesting to hear," he said on "Fox and Friends." "Perhaps, if I weren’t running she’d be in my office asking for money. But now that I’m running, she wants to take a weak side on immigration. I feel very strongly about illegal immigration. She doesn’t, and I think the people in her great state, I love her state, I’m there a lot, and by the way I have a massive lead in South Carolina. We have a massive lead. They’re incredible people, and they feel like I do. Believe me. Because they don’t like what’s happening in our country.”
As far as the prospect of a Trump-Haley ticket? Don't count on it, Trump said.
“Well considering I’m leading in the polls by a lot, I wouldn’t say she’s off to a good start based on what she has just said," he said, when asked about the prospect of picking Haley. "So you know, let’s see what happens. We’ll pick somebody, but we’ll pick somebody who’s very good. But whoever I pick is going to be very strong on illegal immigration. We’ve had it. We’ve had it with illegal immigration. Believe me—this country, and a lot of other things, especially when you look at what’s going on, at the Iran deal and all of the money that goes out and we get nothing for it. So we’ve had it with a lot of things in this country."
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