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    Anybody who trusts one political party over the other is naive beyond words!
    So true. It is the following political parties that have us in the chokehold we now 'enjoy'.
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    Re: Are the Democrats playing the RACE card?

    I live in S. FL where I am outnumbered by Latinos. They all voted Republican (as you can tell from the election results)

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    Quote Originally Posted by barkway
    HUH? The Latinos were instrumental in putting Bush in office and a large number of them vote Republican (mainly on faith-based grounds).

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    I think we all know the Democrats are drooling over a defacto racist coup going on here. They know that the Latino Vote will almost always FAVOR the Democrats, and they are going for the racist card. Millions of poor uneducated working class latinos will drive the Reagan Democrats to the middle party though, so in the long term, it will just split the democaps as it is the republicans.

    They cannot win on what they stand for, so they will go with literally a DEFACTO-RACIST COUP....

    Legal immigrants tend to be conservative, rule oriented folks....they cant win that way.....

    Let me reiterate that:

    DEMOCRATS WHO WANT 50 MILLION ILLEGALS ARE BLATENTLY RACIST.

    This is a FACT that is NOT BEING talked about, even by our side,........

    The Democratic Party is a party of RACISTS


    Id like to see some talk show people bring this up...
    Bush only garnered 35% of the Latino vote. Look it up.

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    My corporeal rights are more important to me than money. Most people I know personally who vote Republican do so ONLY because (they say) of the tax cuts. Money is here today, gone tomorrow....but my inherent rights are ever-present. I also do not support the Republicans because they cow-tow to corporate America and if you want to know who is behind this Senate bill s2611, you need look no further than Wall St and the Fortune 500 list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barkway
    Eh-HEM...I have more often than not voted Democrat (I'm an Independent) and this is certainly not my view. I refuse to vote republican as long as they insist on catering to religious zealots and those who would deny me the right to control my own health and medical corporeal decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmonkey
    NO- THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS RACIST. IT IS AN OPENLY RACIST INSTITUTION FOR TRYING TO FLOOD THE COUNTRY FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

    THEY ARE COMPARABLE TO THE NAZI PARTY at this point out. They will never stp either....
    In other words, you support the socialist dems because they promise you the ability to have an abortion? Is that really the most important issue facing this nation?

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    barkway - I have agreed with all of your posts but on this one I have to say I strongly disagree.

    It is clear this is not a party issue anymore. If you do not think the democrats are bowing down to corporate America I would have to disagree.

    I am in Florida too and the Latinos here do vote primarily Republican, of that I can attest.

    The problem with you thinking is that if things continue the way they are none of are going to have any rights left, no matter which ones are most important to you.

    Republicans and democrats are both selling us down the river...although it would appear to me it is more democrats than republicans.

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    on the immigration issue, yes, you are correct. It is both parties selling us out. On the other issue, it's a hard and fast truth that the Republican Party IS corporate America. I come from a Republican family, with corporate backgrounds, and I never met any CEO or business leader that registered Democrat. Also keep in mind, I did say I'm an Independent (recognizing that neither party truly represents me or my views). Every election I have to weigh all issues and candidates and vote accordingly. Many I know just "vote the ticket" with little to no research. I think is irresponsible and is partially to blame for many of the political messes that have resulted from various administrations. I also believe in checks and balances and do not feel we are given that when ONE party controls the majority in political influence such as we have now. We NEED a REAL third party....and soon.

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    barkway - I have agreed with all of your posts but on this one I have to say I strongly disagree.

    It is clear this is not a party issue anymore. If you do not think the democrats are bowing down to corporate America I would have to disagree.

    I am in Florida too and the Latinos here do vote primarily Republican, of that I can attest.

    The problem with you thinking is that if things continue the way they are none of are going to have any rights left, no matter which ones are most important to you.

    Republicans and democrats are both selling us down the river...although it would appear to me it is more democrats than republicans.

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    Democrats invented the race card

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    ....and McCain said on Larry King that the Republicans only need 5 Democrats to side with them to get this immigration bill passed.

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    Barkway, are your rights so important as to sell your country down the river?
    to me that is the most incredible act of selfishness I have seen here. I am sorry, I hate to be picking on you this way but just think about what you are saying here, your right to have an abortion is more important then saving your country here? Barkway, if you take care of your health in the first place,which it is so easy to do nowadays with all the preventive contraceptives out there that shouldnt really be a factor anymore. Thank God, the brave men defending the Alamo, decided that their right to life was far less important then the lives of all their fellow Texans to live free of the invasion of Santa Anna.
    THANK GOD FOR THE BRAVE AND THE SEFLESS THAT IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY IS ALL ABOUT OR USE TO BE ANYWAY!
    Call me an extremist, I don't care, I believe even in the rights of the smallest and most innocent of us to have thier chance to live.
    I know this is not what this is about here but barkway, you brought it up in the first place,
    I wonder how far along we would be if Einsteen,s mom or Jonas Salk's (inventor of polio vaccination)mother could have aborted their children or even Crockett's and Bowie's mom had that chance, how would that have changed our future I wonder? I won't say anymore about this, I know this is not what this site is all about, and if my post gets edited I understand but I cannot make myself edit my own post on this if some have the right to say what they think then the rest should have their say also. Maybe the whole thread should be edited I don't know, I will leave that to them.
    Build the dam fence post haste!

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    I would have to agree the major problem for years have been the voters that just vote the party all the down and do not look at issues.

    I was talking to my dad about this the other day and he has been telling me for about 20 years that this country was going downhill...it just seems lately it is at an ever increasing rate. His response was this government stopped paying attention to the constitution a long time ago and if you think about it that is the truth of the matter. And that is something that goes to both parties because our rights have been slowly taken away over many years.

    Our system of checks and balances would work perfectly if all 4 branches of the government were working correctly and it would not matter who was in charge. Notice I said 4 branches, We The People are the 4th. However the 3 branches in government are all corupt no matter what party they claim to belong to.

    The people let the government take control and run away with our country and I quite frankly am at a loss of how to return it the rule of the people.

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    I am not going to comment pro or con on abortion. That is something best left for another time and another place.

    I will offer my thoughts on politics and the subject.

    It is impossible for me to believe for a moment that the Republicans in charge now have any desire to stop abortion.

    If tomorrow the Democrats said, "We give in. We want abortion to be illegal." - a lot of Republicans would have heart failure.

    If tomorrow the Republican said, "We give in. WE think abortion should be legal' - the Democrats would have strokes.

    This is one of those issues that is a cash cow for both parties. All they have to do is have some little dustup about the subject and you can hear the checkbooks hitting the tables across America.

    It is a subject worth a few million in contributions to any given time.

    There is no way I believe the most important factor in voting on the new justices was how they were going to rule on abortion. I think it is how they are going to rule on the sovereignty of America, on global rule in America, on the new trade zone, new money, even immigration issues.

    We have to look outside either of these parties or people in the parties if we want to save America.

    I truly believe these people have no core beliefs. They are people I would not want in my neighborhood and would not willingly, let in my home.
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