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Democrats Trying To Force Senate Vote On Blocking Trump Admin From Blowing Up Drug Runner Boats

By William Teach October 9, 2025 – 6:45 am

Um, really? They really want to go down this route? They really want to use capital on protecting drug runners from Venezuela?

Senate Democrats to force vote on blocking Trump strikes on alleged drug boats
Senate Democrats plan to force a vote under the War Powers Act on Wednesday aimed at blocking continued U.S. strikes on alleged drug-carrying boats off the coast of Venezuela.
The resolution, led by Sens. Adam Schiff of California and Tim Kaine of Virginia, would block the U.S. military from engaging in hostilities with “any non-state organization engaged in the promotion, trafficking, and distribution of illegal drugs and other related activities” without congressional authorization.
“There has been no authorization to use force by Congress in this way,” Schiff said Wednesday, saying the strikes risk escalating into a full-blown conflict with Venezuela. “I feel it is plainly unconstitutional.” (snip)
In a notification to Congress after the second strike in mid-September, the Trump administration said the U.S. is in a “non-international armed conflict” with drug cartels it has designated as terrorist organizations. The drugs smuggled by these cartels kill tens of thousands of Americans each year and constitute an “armed attack” against U.S. citizens, according to the White House.
The Trump administration has designated several drug cartels and gangs as terrorist organizations, including Venezuela’s Tren de Aragua, Mexico’s Sinaloa Cartel and El Salvador’s MS-13.

So, let me ask: if it was Biden or Kamala doing this, would Democrats have a problem with it? We all know the answer would be “no.” Rand Paul would complain either way, as he’s doing now. If Democrats were serious they and Republicans would actually authorize the use of US military assets in blowing up drug boats, planes, and submarines. Bringing marijuana in isn’t that big of a deal: cocaine, fentanyl, and others are a problem, and need to be stopped.

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Senate votes down war powers resolution aimed at blocking Trump's boat strikes

Caitlin Yilek
Wed, October 8, 2025 at 10:33 PM EDT
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Washington — Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked an effort aimed at preventing continued U.S. strikes on alleged drug-carrying boats off the coast of Venezuela.
Democrats forced a vote on the issue under the War Powers Act. In a 48-51 vote, the effort failed to garner enough support to move forward.
The resolution, led by Sens. Adam Schiff of California and Tim Kaine of Virginia, would have blocked the U.S. military from engaging in hostilities with "any non-state organization engaged in the promotion, trafficking, and distribution of illegal drugs and other related activities" without congressional authorization.

"There has been no authorization to use force by Congress in this way," Schiff said Wednesday, saying the strikes risk escalating into a full-blown conflict with Venezuela. "I feel it is plainly unconstitutional."
The strikes in the Caribbean Sea have prompted bipartisan backlash, with lawmakers questioning their legality. Congress, which has the sole authority under the Constitution to declare war, has not authorized the use of military force against drug cartels.
The Trump administration says it has conducted four strikes on alleged drug-trafficking boats near Venezuela since Sept. 2, killing at least 21 people.
In a notification to Congress after the second strike in mid-September, the Trump administration said the U.S. is in a "non-international armed conflict" with drug cartels it has designated as terrorist organizations. The drugs smuggled by these cartels kill tens of thousands of Americans each year and constitute an "armed attack" against U.S. citizens, according to the White House.

The Trump administration has designated several drug cartels and gangs as terrorist organizations, including Venezuela's Tren de Aragua, Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel and El Salvador's MS-13.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who was at the Capitol on Wednesday to meet with Senate Republicans, told reporters the president has the authority to order the strikes without congressional authorization.
"These are targeted strikes against imminent threats against the United States," he said.
Regarding claims that the U.S. is acting in self-defense, David Janovsky, the acting director of The Constitution Project, said, "The situation in the Caribbean is not that."

Democrats' war powers resolution said the designation of drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations "provides no legal authority for the president to use force against members of designated organizations or any foreign state."

Kaine said the administration has not provided answers to lawmakers' questions on the intelligence supporting the strikes, the legal rationale for them or why the decision was made to attack the boats instead of intercept them.
"The White House does not maintain there's any congressional authorization," Kaine said. "These military actions should stop unless authorized by Congress — not stopped, period, permanently, forever, can't-do-them stopped — unless authorized by congressional action."
Under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, the president is required to consult Congress before introducing armed forces into hostilities, unless there has been a declaration of war or other congressional authorization. If Congress does not authorize military force, the president has to withdraw forces within 90 days. The law was enacted in response to the Vietnam War as a check on the president's power to wage war without the consent of Congress.

Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky has been the loudest GOP critic of the strikes on the alleged drug smuggling boats. After the first strike, Paul condemned Vice President JD Vance, who said "killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the highest and best use of our military."
"What a despicable and thoughtless sentiment it is to glorify killing someone without a trial," Paul wrote.
Paul underscored his point in a floor speech Wednesday, saying the strikes risk killing innocent people and the administration has presented no evidence that the boats were carrying drugs.
"If anyone gave a you-know-what about justice, perhaps those in charge of deciding whom to kill might let us know their names, present proof of their guilt, show evidence of their crimes," Paul said. "Is it too much to ask to know the names of those we kill before we kill them? To know what evidence exists of their guilt? At the very least, the government should explain how the gang came to be labeled as terrorists."

Paul added, "the blow-them-to-smithereens crowd also conveniently ignores the fact that death is generally not the penalty for drug smuggling."
During debate on the resolution, other Republicans were untroubled about the president taking unilateral action against the alleged drug traffickers and that the administration has left Congress in the dark on details of the strikes.
"These strikes were fully compliant and fully justified," Republican Sen. Mike Crapo of Idaho said.
There were similar efforts by Congress over the summer to reassert its authority to declare war as tensions boiled over between Israel and Iran. The U.S. became directly involved in the 12-day war by bombing Iran's nuclear facilities before Iran and Israel agreed to a ceasefire.

After the Iran strikes, the Senate voted down a measure that Kaine had introduced in the days before the bombings to block President Trump from using further military force against Iran.
"The Iran situation was extremely time-limited," Janovsky said. "The administration has made it very clear that they continue, and have in fact continued, to carry out these strikes in the Caribbean. So I think that certainly creates more ongoing urgency for Congress to act in some way in this case."
Schiff said Congress has abdicated its war-declaring responsibilities because members don't want to go on the record on the issue. He said that sets a dangerous precedent.
"We're blowing up ships thousands of miles from our shore," Schiff said. "What is to stop some other nation from deciding, well, they're going to use the same precedent to blow up ships thousands of miles from their shore, whether in the South China Sea or elsewhere, with a purported rationale that they're engaged in some kind of trafficking and therefore they're taking action? I don't think this is a practice we want to see other nations adopt."


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Senate votes down war powers resolution aimed at blocking Trump's boat strikes