Thread: Do you speed?

Originally Posted by rational1

Speeding kills tens of thousands of people each year. I make no excuse for these dispicable criminals, but you somehow seem to suggest we would be crime free without illegal immigrants? Not only are you paranoid, but obviously irrational as well.

Wreckless drivers and drunk drivers (many illegals) are the ones killing "tens of thousands a year." So, I guess your argument would follow, "Yeah, only deport the criminals, let the rest stay." To which I reply: do 58% of "speeders" believe that the highways belong to them, and not the government? Do they want the law abiding drivers to be eventually out-numbered by fellow speeders? Do speeders threaten to destroy the entire highway, road, and bridge system?

Originally Posted by rational1

Originally Posted by Rawhide

If your going to try to use the religious angle to make your point then you might actually want to read the Bible -God says-"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars and give God that which is God's-kind of lets you know God wants everyone to obey the rules of man- aka laws-and God,the two are not mutually exclusive.
Please stop trying to twist Our Gods words to fit your agenda.

Rawhide!

That's really the only scripture you ever use. What about these?

The Children of Israel were told, “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the alien, giving him food and clothing. And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egyptâ€

Originally Posted by rational1

So much of you people's argument revolves around, "these people have already commited a crime by enterring the country illegally, demonstrating that they are criminals and therefore undesirable in this country". I ask you then, do you ever exceed the speed limit? If so, then haven't you demonstrated you too are undesirable?

Borders where created by politics and man, humanity was created by God. In which do you place your faith? Good luck in the afterlife!

Rhetoric is a poor subsitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not meerly talk; we must act big. Theodore Roosevelt

The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as the most brutal wrongdoer. Theodore Roosevelt

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. Thomas Paine

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. Thomas Paine

I love this ....

rational1,

No where in the Bible are the words alien or immigrant.

You don't know the last verses of the Bible do you.

As a good Christian, I warn you and I also advise you to warn the person or persons that encouraged you to sin, even if it is a minister. If the latter is the case, I suggest you find another church, since I'm more concerned about your immortality.


Revelation 22

18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Don't tamper with the word of God!

Dixie

No, I don't speed.

And, I don't want to live in a country that is spoiled by people who bring their own cesspool with them, and ruin our land. Did you ever see the trash on the border - tons and tons? Did you ever see 20 people living in a one-bedroom apartment with trash all over their yard?

Do you know how much of your taxes go to illegals for their medical care and education for their kids? Did you know they have more rights than U.S. citizens who pay the taxes and fight the wars?

Have you lost your patriotism somewhere along the way?

Rational,

A word of advice would be to post on a forum whose posters are not as well informed about illegal immgration as Alipac. To compare speeding to the many Americans who are killed by illegals daily in the US,in many ways, is not very rational. You are not going to sway anyone on this board to your way of thinking by picking a choosing bible verses to back your thought process. It just won't fly here. Illegal is Illegal and no matter how you try to slant it ,it will not change. Here is a bible verse for you.

"The truth shall set you free"

The truth is illegals CAME HERE ILLEGALLY and they need to return home!!!!! The truth is AMERICANS ARE FED UP and we are going to do everything we can to keep Americans safe!!

And, to add to the above...

It's time for restatement of the most blatantly obvious:

What in the he$$ does speeding have to do with illegal immigration anyway?

Rational1 wrote

God told Moses to tell the people, “When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born.

Yes, rational1, aliens who were welcomed. This message states that the citizens of this country are not to mistreat LEGAL aliens and must be treated as one of our native-born..PERIOD. God does not want you invading your neighbor..PERIOD. Now do you understand or are you a socialist?

Originally Posted by rational1

Originally Posted by Rawhide

If your going to try to use the religious angle to make your point then you might actually want to read the Bible -God says-"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars and give God that which is God's-kind of lets you know God wants everyone to obey the rules of man- aka laws-and God,the two are not mutually exclusive.
Please stop trying to twist Our Gods words to fit your agenda.

Rawhide!

That's really the only scripture you ever use. What about these?

The Children of Israel were told, “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the alien, giving him food and clothing. And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egyptâ€