Thread: Documents point to ATF 'gun running' since 2008

Documents point to ATF 'gun running' since 2008

Undercover ATF photo shows display of high-powered weapons put out for suspected Mexico drug cartel gun buyers

By Sharyl Attkisson

(CBS News)

A controversial operation ( http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/ ... 5609.shtml ) in which U.S. agents were allegedly ordered not to intervene as American guns flowed to Mexican gangs may have been going on for many years, reports CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

Gunrunning scandal at the ATF
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/ ... 5609.shtml

A photograph obtained by CBS News shows an astonishing display of high-powered weapons put up for suspected Mexican drug cartel gun buyers. It's a rare glimpse into ATF's controversial undercover operations.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allegedly let gun runners walk off with weapons - thousands of them - to see if they'd end up in the hands of the cartels. The Justice Department and ATF have denied it ever happened.

Special Agent John Dodson works in ATF's Phoenix office and has blown the whistle on the controversial strategy, known as letting guns "walk."

Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/ ... 9031.shtml

Dodson believes there are other ATF operations going on that have done the same thing.

Multiple sources now tell CBS News the questionable tactics were used in more than one operation, and date back as far as 2008 in the Tucson area. One case was called "Wide Receiver."

AK47s vs. bean bags in border drug war
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/ ... 9492.shtml

Sources tell CBS News licensed gun dealers often wanted no part of selling to suspicious characters who could be supplying the cartels.

But, sources say, ATF enlisted the gun dealers as paid Confidential Informants and encouraged them to sell even more.

"ATF has asked me to assist in an official investigation," reads one agreement.

Gun salesmen closed the deals, and ATF watched and listened with recording devices.

"ATF Special Agents conducted surveillance...and identified the dates and times that the conspirators... crossed the international border," says one court document. http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/RAMOSE110308.pdf

Dodson argues that something that should never be done. "A lot people are going to get hurt with those firearms between the time we let them go and the time they're recovered again in a crime."

Sources tell CBS News these ATF operations involved about 450 weapons. Despite the risk, two years later the same strategy was expanded to include thousands of guns.

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G.W. Bush is Neck Deep in this shit and has been since the start of this mess ... just track the documents and do the timeline

There are many Big Name Corrupt Politicians that are neck deep in this Bull Shit

Michael Mukasey was the US Attorney General in 2008

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

G.W. Bush is Neck Deep in this V****V and has been since the start of this mess ... just track the documents and do the timeline

There are many Big Name Corrupt Politicians that are neck deep in this Bull V****V

I agree with you. However this isn't the first time this has been done. Even good old Ronald Regan was sending weapons to Argentina in the name of stopping the spread of communism. Those weapons were then used by a fascist military dictator on the Argnetine people. This country and it's presidents have a history of gun running. Imagine what GH Bush was involved in as head of the CIA. This country is a mess. I no longer trust anyone in government. Getting the rest of the country to open their eyes and quit buying into the MSM's propaganda is the first step.

Originally Posted by jamesw62

Michael Mukasey was the US Attorney General in 2008

Yep.. but something of this nature cannot be approved by ATF alone; it has to come from the top and approved .. so there is documents somewhere that has a signature

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Originally Posted by jamesw62

Michael Mukasey was the US Attorney General in 2008

Yep.. but something of this nature cannot be approved by ATF alone; it has to come from the top and approved .. so there is documents somewhere that has a signature

Oh yes.....the last time we got so close Olie North took the fall.

the ATF answers to the DOJ who then answers to the President.

Originally Posted by bigtex

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Originally Posted by jamesw62

Michael Mukasey was the US Attorney General in 2008

Yep.. but something of this nature cannot be approved by ATF alone; it has to come from the top and approved .. so there is documents somewhere that has a signature

Oh yes.....the last time we got so close Olie North took the fall.

It destroyed a good Military Officer; Olie got body slammed and was the fall guy for a corrupt government

Originally Posted by jamesw62

the ATF answers to the DOJ who then answers to the President.

and everybody in that chain of command knows enough of what was going on and approved all of the tactics that were used.

this is not a rogue Official.. this goes all the way up the chain of Command and will make water gate look like a sweet spring rain storm

1. This has the appearance of another color revolution in Mexico; the Mexican Government and its people better start screaming for answers

2. Designed to take away your second amendment rights

3. Who's to say its not the start of a U.S.A. colored revolution after the second amendment is wipped off the map and the Marxists / Progressives / Socialists / Communists backed by a rogue President takes over the country by force.... If it looks like a Manchurian Candidate, walks like a Manchurian Candidate ... its a Fricken Manchurian Candidate

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Who's to say its not the start of a U.S.A. colored revolution after the second amendment is wipped off the map and the Marxists / Progressives / Socialists / Communists backed by a rogue President takes over the country by force.... If it looks like a Manchurian Candidate, walks like a Manchurian Candidate ... its a Fricken Manchurian Candidate

"What's a colored revolution?" and a "Manchurian candidate?"