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    Donald Trump's shifting talk on immigration shows his struggle to reach beyond his co

    Donald Trump's shifting talk on immigration shows his struggle to reach beyond his core supporters



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    Donald Trump’s latest contortions over immigration policy underscore one of his most daunting challenges: speaking to multiple audiences at once.
    Presidential candidates often struggle to smooth sharp rhetoric as they move to moderate their image in a general election — Mitt Romney’s strategist famously likened the process to shaking a child’s Etch A Sketch.

    But Trump, who won in a crowded primary by obliterating nearly every rhetorical boundary, seems to find the task exceedingly difficult.

    His support among Latinos, blacks and other minority voters ranks well behind rival Hillary Clinton, and in some cases, among the lowest ever recorded in polls. Perhaps more important to Trump’s electoral strategy, accusations of racist rhetoric have stymied his ability to consolidate moderate Republicans and independents, especially suburban women.

    Yet, moderating his message to appeal to those groups risks alienating many of Trump’s core supporters, who are drawn to his tough promises to deport immigrants here illegally and the belief that he says what he means.

    “It’s a little late to say, ‘Oh, never mind,” said Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster who advised Florida Sen. Marco Rubio during the primary. “He might conceivably make a little more progress with Republican-leaning voters who have been put off by his rhetoric, but you’ve got to balance that against the people who were attracted by him in the first place because of his pledge to deport 11 million illegal immigrants.”

    Democrats and some Republican strategists have asserted that Trump may not really be trying to lure minority voters. He made one of his biggest appeals to African Americans to a nearly all-white audience in Wisconsin last week. And he has spoken about African American life in the U.S. in near-apocalyptic terms, overstating the degree of poverty, joblessness and violence among blacks.

    Trump may be “trying to make affluent suburbanites feel like voting for him isn’t racist,” said Michael Steel, a former advisor to Republican House Speaker John A. Boehner and to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush’s primary campaign.

    “It’s a difficult box for him because if he shifts to a more popular position, it undercuts his position as an outsider and truth-teller,” Steel said.

    Trump often speaks extemporaneously, making it hard to pin him down on policy and easy to overstate the extent to which he is consciously shifting his words to court specific voter demographic targets.

    During a Republican primary debate in November, Trump promised a deportation force, notably praising President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s 1950s-era program that removed more than 1 million people under the now-offensive name Operation Wetback. He reiterated his pledge to deport a day later, adding in a television interview that he would do it “humanely,” a phrase he has often used.

    And in his initial television ad that began airing last week, Trump reinforces his emphasis on tough immigration enforcement, with a bleak depiction of young men sprawled atop freight train cars headed to Texas, above the caption “open border.”

    But in a meeting with more than 20 Latino business executives, pastors and civic leaders at Trump Tower over the weekend, Trump “acknowledged the hard part is the 11 million” who are in the country illegally, according to Jacob Monty, a Texas-based immigration attorney who attended the meeting, speaking by telephone from Houston.

    Trump did not indicate whether he would support alternatives to mass deportation, such as allowing people in the country illegally to begin the process of gaining legal status by going to their birth country’s consulate or embassy inside the U.S., one of several options discussed by Latino advisors around the table. In the past, Trump has said that such people would have to go home before returning to the U.S. legally.

    His new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, wavered when asked a day later about the once-promised deportation force.

    “To be determined,” she said, answering a question about the formation of such a force on CNN.

    The campaign then announced it would postpone a speech scheduled for Thursday that would have outlined Trump’s plans more specifically.
    Trump insisted his policy has not changed, yet two comments this week left him new wiggle room.

    In a Fox News interview Monday, Trump suggested he might continue a more vigorous version of President Obama’s deportation policy.

    Those who commit crimes, he said, are “going to be out of here so fast, your head will spin.”

    “As far as the rest,” he added. “We’re going to go through the process, like they are now — perhaps with a lot more energy.”

    Then in a Fox News town hall on Tuesday, he took it a step further, in response to a question from Fox’s Sean Hannity about people here illegally who “contribute to society, have been law-abiding, have kids here.”

    “There could certainly be a softening, because we’re not looking to hurt people,” Trump responded.

    Yet, even as Trump attempts to convey a softening on deportations, he continues to fire up supporters with tough talk about his central promise to build a wall along the Mexican border.

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    While Kellyanne is trying to destroy the Trump candidacy with "TBD's", Donald Trump himself is explaining to black Americans that illegal aliens steal their jobs which is why they need to be deported so black Americans, Latino Americans and other Americans who need a job can get one. That's 8,000,000 jobs right there. One policy, BOOM, 8 million new jobs at reflated wages for American Workers. That will pay some bills and revitalize some futures and neighborhoods.
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    The "softening" talk about children is concerning because the children of illegal aliens will continue to be the anchor for other illegal aliens and they can petition for more family to come. They will continue to be favored over Americans and our schools and other areas of the economy will suffer. Americans should not be asked to pay anything for illegal aliens to navigate a "good" life here.

    Congressman Duncan Hunter says that Donald Trump will have to work with Marco Rubio, John McCain and others in the Senate who want comprehensive immigration reform. He says that thousands of criminal illegal aliens will leave and the border will be secure but anything else requires immigration reform. Agriculture, Business, Tech will have a voice he says. I did not hear him mention enforcing laws, he may have but he Made it pretty clear, in his mind, Donald Trump will consult with Rubio and McCain and the amnesty group to do anything.

    Sarah Huckabee, Governor Huckabee's daughter and Trump spokesperson, said that the " softening" refers to children. (The children again are the ones being used to fleece the American taxpayers and continue the open door for more people to come).

    If welfare for Americans is tied to work for those who are able, the jobs held by illegals to milk cows, work in agriculture, etc. can be filled in large numbers.
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    Sarah isn't getting that from Trump, Sarah is getting that from the Trojan Horse, Kellyanne Conway. Trump has never EVER talked about the "children", not once, not ever, not in 16 month of this campaign. All he's ever said about the "families" is when asked by a reporter on his way out the door of a press conference one day was "they would be removed as a single unit".
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    On Lou Dobbs, Fox Business, Ed Rollins, Republican strategist said that the use of the word "soft" with illegal immigration is wrong. These people are here illegally there is nothing soft about it. Trump supporters came along with the tough talk on illegal immigration.
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    Trump has now PC said that he will "enforce existing law." That means DEPORTATION of illegal aliens. By changing the narrative he puts the opposition on the side of NOT supporting the rule of law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfwagner View Post
    Trump has now PC said that he will "enforce existing law." That means DEPORTATION of illegal aliens. By changing the narrative he puts the opposition on the side of NOT supporting the rule of law.
    Exactly. Trump wants them out, he wants the jobs back with American Workers, he wants them off EITC payments, welfare payments, Medicaid payments, education costs, crime costs, all of it. Illegal immigration ruins his plans to fix our country so he wants them out. So you're absolutely right, when he says enforce the law, he means deportation because that is the law.
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