Thread: Dream Act Questions to think about

Besides the usual questions and point we have covered on Alipac I have a lot of questions that I'm sure our sell outs in congress won't consider.

Does the Dream Act say what kind of school the immigrants must attend? Do internet diplomas or study at home courses count where you supposedly study to get your degree? Does the LaRaza school of (fill in the blank) count? I can see these being opened up because our colleges and trade schoolds won't have enough places for them.

Will they get special treatment because of their race or country they came from thereby leaving our kids behind?

Will they have some kind of e-verify or something to prove that these kids aren't stealing someone else's identity? How will our government be able to prove that the illegals are the person or even the age they say they are?

If a kid gets an A in esl will they put on the same track for college as an Honor Student who gets an A? For those who don't know ESL students are typically behind their fellow students by at least 2-3 years if not more. What if these kids have an ACT or SAT score that proves they aren't college material? Will they get a pass anyway?

What about those who were deported by raids? Will they be allowed to come back to the US as long as they go to school or join the military?

Will US citizens even get a say in whether this Act passes or not?

How many will have dual citizenship? How many will be loyal to the US?

What if they can't speak English? Will we be forced to make concessions for them?

How many immigration and anti-American lawyers will we get out of this?

I could go on and on but I've got to get back to work!

Please check further, there's no mention of having to complete anything and they can't be deported as long as they're in the program even if it's a serious felony. It's "children" up to the age of 30, and nothing to stop them from starting the chain migration right from the start. Nothing that I saw that requires them to speak English and nothing about fee's or anything that any other legal immigrant would have to abide by. No background check, nothing.

They have some adult program around here somewhere where illegals can get an education but it's based on Mexican books and curriculum which supposidly equals a GED. In order to hopefully have them more eager to learn English. Before long I'm waiting on them to say you just hang a shingle out and claim to be a surgeon and that will be fine.

Roy Beck also has questions to ask:

A Test To Determine If DREAM Amnesty Sponsors Are Serious About Helping Illegal Teens, Or Do They Just Want To Hurt Americans?

By Roy Beck, Updated Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 12:30 AM

Open-borders groups say their top priority this spring is to pass the DREAM Act Amnesty for illegal-alien teenagers. They have a massive war-chest and support of most of the leadership elites of the country.

I have some ways you can test a politician to see if he/she is really concerned about those teens, or if the real goal is just to flood as many foreign workers into occupations and neighborhoods as possible.

First, let me note that NumbersUSA is fighting the new DREAM Act Amnesty with all our forces -- just as we did in the autumn of 2007 when we led the forces in defeating DREAM in the Senate with only two days notice.

Go to www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet to find ways to help fight it.

The main argument for the DREAM amnesty is that a half-million or so illegal teens and young adults have been in the U.S. a long time and don't really know their home country, and that sending them back would be cruel, especially since it was adults (usually their parents) who made the decisions to break the law in the first place and put these kids into this tough position.

The first problem with the DREAM amnesty in the current economic climate is that the half-million amnestied illegal young adults would compete for scarce jobs. If they are successful, at least in the short-term, a DREAM amnesty could mean that a half-million more Americans would NOT have a job.

Nonetheless, I have no doubt that many immigration enthusiasts are willing to put American young adults out of work in exchange for the amnesty for the illegal-alien young adults.

But it appears to me that the DREAM supporters generally want to hurt a lot more Americans than that.

I really encourage you to press any DREAM supporters in your state about whether they are just interested in the amnesty for illegal young adults or whether they really are trying to increase the labor competition by millions.

The question that we have never been able to get DREAM Amnesty supporters to answer is if they want the amnesty for the illegal-alien teens badly enough that they would be willing to limit all other damage to Americans from the amnesty.

Thus far, it appears that DREAM Amnesty supporters want the amnesty to be as destructive to unemployed Americans as possible. But don't take my word for it. Ask every DREAM supporter the following questions. This test will show what they really want.

TEST FOR SINCERITY OF DREAM AMNESTY SUPPORTERS

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION NO. 1: While the DREAM Amnesty will put a half-million illegal-alien young adults in direct competition with American workers, are you willing to ensure that no other Americans will become unemployed because of the amnesty?

If the answer is YES, that would mean that the amnesty must not extend to anybody other than the specific illegal young adults meeting the criteria. On the other hand, DREAM Amnesties of the past have provided immigration status to all kinds of relatives of the young adults, multiplying the number of potential unemployed Americans three-fold up to six-fold.

PRACTICAL QUESTION NO. 1: Are you willing to eliminate Chain Migration categories created in the late 1950s that allow anchor immigrants to bring in adult relatives other than a spouse? If you are not, the amnestied young adults will be able to bring in their parents, older siblings and eventually leading to even aunts, uncles and cousins, many of whom were guilty of breaking our laws and putting the illegal-alien teens in their current condition in the first place.

The bi-partisan U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform chaired by the late Barbara Jordan concluded that Chain Migration should be eliminated in order to protect the most vulnerable Americans. Are you willing to give up Chain Migration in order to amnesty the illegal-alien young adults?

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION NO. 2: Are you willing to ensure that the DREAM Amnesty does not cause a new rush on the border (and of visa overstays) of people encouraged by the fact that breaking immigration laws truly does get rewarded?

If the answer is YES, that would mean full implementation of programs to ensure that illegal aliens in the future cannot obtain jobs or taxpayer benefits. Only a clear message that breaking immigration laws will no longer pay will keep the passage of another amnesty from drawing millions more illegal aliens into the country.

PRACTICAL QUESTION NO. 2: (a) Are you willing to tie the DREAM Amnesty to a mandatory E-Verify system for every employee in every job? (b) Will you also include a notification process for multiple workers using the same Social Security number in order to root out identity theft? (c) And will you delay the permanent implementation of the DREAM Amnesty until the U.S Visit system is fully in place at all points of entry so that everybody crossing our borders can check in and check out and be known by our national computer system if they fail to check out on time? (d) And are you willing to have the E-Verify system used to confirm legal status before distributing taxpayer benefits in the future?

If you care so much for mainstreaming illegal-alien young adults, surely you are willing to take the above steps to ensure that law-breaking adults in the future won't be enticed to turn their children into illegal aliens while seeking to unlawfully increase their incomes in the United States. Are you?

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Even if all the above provisions are met, a DREAM Amnesty would be harmful to American young adults who are having such a difficult time finding jobs, without having another half-million people competing with them.

But politicians and other leaders who advocate the amnesty -- if they truly are sincere that the illegal-alien young adults are their main concern -- ought to be willing to advocate all the provisions above to limit the damage to Americans.

When you call up the DREAM Amnesty supporters, ask them.

Let me know what you find.

ROY BECK is Founder & CEO of NumbersUSA

Views and opinions expressed in blogs on this website are those of the author. They do not necessarily reflect official policies of NumbersUSA.

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I understand they changed it to include "children" up to age 35. And I suppose a night class in body and fender work at the Community College would qualify. Perhaps even Food Science.

Since when is being over 13 considered a child? And they take this all the way to 35? Scam artists!

Since when is being over 13 considered a child? And they take this all the way to 35? Scam artists!

Exactly. I've been noticing that more and more with crimes. This CHILD, that's 27 did this. Child my heinie.

I understand they changed it to include "children" up to age 35. And I suppose a night class in body and fender work at the Community College would qualify. Perhaps even Food Science.

Exactly, probably CNA's for the dying elderly.......the very ones who claim we must die in order for them to take over and pass the wand.