Thread: I wonder, if Paul were to get elected as POTUS

How he would even co-exist with the current Congress as it is ...how exactly would that play out? Would they just tear him apart? Would any work get done at all?

Of course, in 2 years we could throw the rest of the bums out, but what about the 1st 2 years?

I would rather see nothing done than the current direction in which lobbyists and the UN control every decision made in the government.

I find that congress works best when it is in deadlock.

So whats to worry about until we get some patriots in there.

There were a few new Dem. patriots that helped with the comprehensive immigration bill last year and the Dream Act.

This is what we have to work on.

I don't think he would be passing all of these Executive Orders that the crumb in there is passing, literally making himself Emperor.

True. Nothing getting done would at least halt some of the momentum of the damage being done.

Originally Posted by Darlene

I find that congress works best when it is in deadlock.

So whats to worry about until we get some patriots in there.

There were a few new Dem. patriots that helped with the comprehensive immigration bill last year and the Dream Act.

This is what we have to work on.

I don't think he would be passing all of these Executive Orders that the crumb in there is passing, literally making himself Emperor.

exactly, look at the Clinton years where a balanced budget was maintained, not because of him but because neither he or congress could get massive spending bills passed...

In his 20 some years in congress, RP has a batting average of Zero - rating as in "POOR" for getting things done. Not one single bill that was his has made it into law.

Even CLinton's balanced budget was a bit of a fallacy though. It didn't address the Social Security plundering.

SOURCE: 2007 NY Times World Almanac & Book of Facts (pg 59)


NATIONAL DEBT DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION(actual dollars)

1993 -- 4.411 Trillion dollars ,,(start of Clinton years)

2000 -- 5.674 Trillion dollars ,,(end of Clinton years)

There was NEVER a year when the national debt went DOWN during the Clinton years.

Look it up, I gave you the source

Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat

In his 20 some years in congress, RP has a batting average of Zero - rating as in "POOR" for getting things done. Not one single bill that was his has made it into law.

Yes, but the power of the veto and the bully pulpit is different. All you're saying is that he refused to yield to the corruption of the system. That's a feature, not a bug.

If Paul, who WILL NOT get the nomination, would get out of the way, we might be able to stop McCAin. A vote for Paul is a vote for McCain. He has NO republican support.

Latest Rasmussen:
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_cont ... an_primary


As Florida voters seek to decide between the two frontrunners, support for other candidates is fading. Rudy Giuliani is a distant third at 18%, Mike Huckabee 12%, some other candidate, 5%, and Ron Paul 2%, someone else 5%.

Now, as for it being better that he got NONE of his legislation passed (he was hired as a legislator, remember!) Ron CO sponsored more legislation by liberals in congress than you will admit.

Here's a few of the sillier ones. And he does PANDER to minority special interests ALOT.



From Paul's website: "A co-sponsor is a Member of Congress who joins with the sponsor in originally introducing the legislation, or officially supporting it after the measure has been formally introduced to the Congress."



. H.CON.RES.263 : Expressing the sense of Congress that any Presidential candidate should be permitted to participate in debates among candidates if at least 5 percent of respondents in national public opinion polls of all eligible voters support the candidate's election for President or if a majority of respondents in such polls support the candidate's participation in such debates. Sponsor: Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] (introduced 11/6/2001) Cosponsors (2) (NOTE: Ron wouldn't be allowed in the debates if he'd gotten his way on this one.........)

H.RES.233 : Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico. Cosponsors (5) Latest Major Action: 9/5/2001


36. H.R.147 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude certain severance payment amounts from income.
Sponsor: Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] (introduced 1/3/2001) Cosponsors (29)


H.R.415 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage new school construction through the creation of a new class of bond. Sponsor: Rep Sanchez, Loretta [CA-46] (introduced 2/6/2001) Cosponsors (23)


92. H.R.648 : To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to exempt licensed funeral directors and licensed embalmers from the minimum wage and overtime compensation requirements of that Act. Sponso r: Rep Graham, Lindsey [SC-3] (introduced 2/14/2001) Cosponsors (15) (A little 'funeral home' payola, there?)

6. H.RES.12 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the United States Postal Service should issue a postage stamp commemorating Juan Nepomuceno Seguin.
( WHO?) : Rep Green, Gene [TX-29] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (

H.RES.208 : Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding the systematic human rights violations in Cuba committed by the Castro regime and calling for the immediate removal of Cuba from the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. Sponsor: Rep Foley, Mark [FL-16] (introduced 4/30/2003) Cosponsors (24)(He wouldn't vote for the same for Iran!)

H.RES.315 : Congratulating Rafael Palmeiro of the Texas Rangers for hitting 500 major league home runs and thanking him for being a role model for the Cuban American community, as well as for all Americans.
Sponsor: Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] (introduced 7/9/2003) Cosponsors (14)


H.R.217 : To ensure that a Federal employee who takes leave without pay in order to perform service as a member of the uniformed services or member of the National Guard shall continue to receive pay in an amount which, when taken together with the pay and allowances such individual is receiving for such service, will be no less than the basic pay such individual would then be receiving if no interruption in employment had occurred. Sponsor: Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors (97) (Only federal employees deserve this bonus????)

H.R.731 : To render all enrolled members of the Tohono O'odham Nation citizens of the United States as of the date of their enrollment and to recognize the valid membership credential of the Tohono O'odham Nation as the legal equivalent of a certificate of citizenship or a State-issued birth certificate for all Federal purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] (introduced 2/12/2003) Cosponsors (119)(THIS IS HOW SOME TRIBES ARE GIVING CITIZENSHIP TO ILLEGAL ALIENS!)




H.CON.RES.160 : Recognizing the historical significance of Juneteenth Independence Day, and expressing the sense of Congress that history should be regarded as a means for understanding the past and solving the challenges of the future. Sponsor: Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] (introduced 5/19/2005) Cosponsors (69) (You gotta be kidding me....)

H.CON.RES.206 : Expressing the sense of the Congress that the President should temporarily suspend restrictions on remittances, gift parcels, and family travel to Cuba to allow Cuban-Americans to assist their relatives in Cuba in the aftermath of Hurricane Dennis.
Sponsor: Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] (introduced 7/12/2005) Cosponsors (70)


H.RES.730 : Recognizing the efforts and contributions of The Women's Museum: An Institute for the Future.
Sponsor: Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice [TX-30] (introduced 3/16/2006) Cosponsors (16)

H.RES.760 : Supporting the goals and ideals of National Clean Beaches Week and recognizing the considerable value of American beaches and their role in American culture.
Sponsor: Rep Pallone, Frank, Jr. [NJ-6] (introduced 4/4/2006) Cosponsors (59)

H.RES.1049 : Recognizing Ann Richards' extraordinary contributions to Texas and American public life and offering condolences on her passing. (Fan of Ann Richards????)
Sponsor: Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] (introduced 9/27/2006) Cosponsors (12)


66. H.R.437 : To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 500 West Eisenhower Street in Rio Grande City, Texas, as the "Lino Perez, Jr. Post Office". (Who? The Hispanic caucus wants it, so it must be okay!)
Sponsor: Rep Cuellar, Henry [TX-28] (introduced 1/12/2007) Cosponsors (31)


SPONSORED


107th
H.CON.RES.206 : Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 7/31/2001) Cosponsors (
Committees: House International Relations
H. CON. RES. 206

Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.


H.CON.RES.277 : Recognizing the important contributions of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 11/19/2001) Cosponsors (None)
107th CONGRESS


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Still a Democrat said:

In his 20 some years in congress, RP has a batting average of Zero - rating as in "POOR" for getting things done. Not one single bill that was his has made it into law.

Do you realize that every time you jump into a thread with negative comments about someone else's favorite candidate that you are creating hard feelings against you own favorite candidate.

You are agitating people, not winning them over to your side and doing irreparable harm to whom you support.

WISE UP! (if you ever want support in the future for your candidate)

AuntB said:

If Paul, who WILL NOT get the nomination, would get out of the way, we might be able to stop McCain. A vote for Paul is a vote for McCain. He has NO republican support.

AuntB, don't you think we are getting a little tired of hearing this same statement over the last 20 years. He is a spoiler, He can't win, He should get out, he is taking away votes from my candidate.

This is the main stream media's line, I thought you would be a little smarter than to fall for it.

How do you think he raised so much money in one day, all small donations from little people. Not corporations.

This is someone that the main stream media will not even mention his name, even when he comes in second. Didn't want him in the debates and that was before the caucuses even began. Calls him a kook, do you hear them call any other candidates names.

Yet he has overcome these obstacles to come in second in two races already.

Don't you dare say he has NO Republican support.

What are your credentials? Fortuneteller?

We are not supposed to be putting other people's choices down, didn't you get the message from William.

Be civil. You will get back all that you give. (taken from the website that you are quoting from)

By the way according to this article at same website, they have no great love for Romney either.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007_ ... chive.html

Unlike Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, Fred Thompson, John McCain, and Mitt Romney, Hunter does not have to lie through his teeth when it comes to his record on illegal immigration. While it is hilarious to see these guys try to ‘Out –Tancredo Tancredo’ on the issue, only one guy truly does out-Tancredo the Colorado Congressman. While Duncan Hunter has sponsored or cosponsored 85 bills and amendments to stop illegal immigration in this country dead in its tracks, not one of these others lifted a finger during their careers, and range from bad to worse on the issue.

Unlike John McCain and Mitt Romney, Hunter won’t find anything in the Constitution to justify supporting a ban on ‘assault weapons’ or ‘cheap handguns’. Hunter has a perfect lifetime record with the NRA and the Gun Owners of America. Both Mitt and McCain are liberals in this arena.

Unlike Mike Huckabee, Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson, Hunter did not and does not buy into the global warming nonsense in any way, shape or form. The only guarantee we have of avoiding a binding, sovereignty usurping, international treaty on global warming is to place a President in power who does not believe the GW alarmism and does not believe in sovereignty usurping international treaties.

Unlike Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, Hunter does not have some convoluted explanation for why the socialized medicine experiments in Massachusetts (RomneyCare) and Arkansas (ARKids) are a good thing that deserves replication nationally. Indeed, Hunter wants to get government out of the way and reduce the regulations on health insurance by killing off mandates and regulations.

If not, we may have to put up with an idiot who thinks we need to close Gitmo and end waterboarding because the world disapproves (Huckabee, McCain), or someone who thinks we just need to be more humble and accommodating on the world stage (Huckabee), or someone who can’t figure out that enriching China is a fools errand (Fred, Mitt, McCain), or someone who has no clue about our military needs and capabilities and would not know an IED from an IUD (Rudy, Huckabee, Mitt).

I try not to say anything negative about another's choice, just so happened to come across this at your "often quoted" website