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    E-VERIFY AND THE EMERGING SURVEILLANCE STATE

    E-VERIFY AND THE EMERGING SURVEILLANCE STATE







    By Tom DeWeese
    September 29, 2008
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    If government won't do its job, is that a reason for Americans to surrender their liberty? Do you think that is a funny question? Well, it is actually what a number of activist groups are now advocating in the name of stopping illegal immigration.

    The fact is, the U.S. government is not doing its job to secure the border and stop the flood of illegal aliens from rushing across it. Even though Congress has passed legislation demanding that a fence be built, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is dragging its feet, holding up the project. Moreover, DHS is fighting efforts in local communities to allow police to arrest illegals. There is little effort to tighten visa security, or allow law enforcement to track down and deport those who stay here past their allotted time. Those illegals caught committing crimes are still allowed to leave, only to easily and surreptitiously return at their will. The border is a sieve. There is no border control - period.

    Rather than work to strengthen the borders and take steps to stop illegals from getting here in the first place, many now seek "internal enforcement" rather than the "rule of law." In other words, take action after leaving the barn door open.

    The answer, say some very powerful anti-immigration forces, is to put the burden of control on American businesses. Jobs, they say, are the draw to illegals, so business should be the first line of defense. The answer, we are told, is simply to get tough with business and stop the ability of illegals to get a job. Such a plan, while appealing to desperate Americans, can have dire consequences if a nation desires to remain free.

    Chief among the schemes to "get tough" with business is the universal enforcement of something called the E-Verify System. It is the brainchild of the Department of Homeland Security and is an electronic employment verification (EEV) program. Essentially, E-Verify uses the Social Security databases to verify Social Security Numbers to determine if someone is a US citizen. Employers are to simply enter in the applicants Social Security Number to verify they are an American citizen (of legal status) and therefore eligible for employment.

    The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 made it illegal for employers to "knowingly" employ unauthorized workers, and E-Verify (then known as "Basic Pilot") grew out of the requirement for work-eligibility verification. Since its inception the program has been voluntary for all businesses. However, that's about to change.

    In 2007, after the dramatic defeat of the illegal immigration amnesty bills, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced several changes to the E-Verify System. The agency will now require more than 200,000 federal contractors to use E-Verify, an increase of more than 1,076 percent over the 17,000 employers registered in 2007 (with only about half actually using) E-Verify. The system will use an "enhanced photograph capability" that will allow employers to check photographs in E-Verify databases. DHS will expand the number of databases E-Verify checks to include visa and passport databases; and the agency is asking states to "voluntarily" allow DHS access to their motor vehicle databases. DHS will require employers to fire employees if they were unable to resolve "no match" discrepancies within 90 days. If the employers do not terminate the workers' employment, the business would face fines of $11,000 or more. DHS also will raise fines against employers by 25 percent and increasingly use criminal action against employers, as opposed to administrative action.

    With those changes, E-Verify is now being sold as the atom bomb in the war on illegal immigration. Described as "the most effective tool to protect vulnerable American workers from unscrupulous businesses that hire illegal foreign workers to displace American workers or depress wages." Sounds great - of course all of this confidence in the E-Verify System's ability to stop illegal immigration is celebrated BEFORE most businesses have even been required to use it.

    The fact is, there are major problems with the E-Verify System. It is a hugely flawed system and will have a severe effect on both naturalized U.S. citizens, as well as those who are native born.

    Millions of employees could mistakenly fall into legal limbo

    Independent analysis of existing government databases have found unacceptably high error rates. Currently those voluntarily using E-Verify have experienced near double-digit error rates. Forcing more than 7 million employers to verify the legal status of more than 160 million current employees, as well as the millions of future hires, means that potentially, as many as 17 million citizens and legal US residents will be mistakenly found "ineligible" to work.

    The fact is, the Social Security Administration (SSA) never purges a Social Security number once it's assigned. The Numident database (which E-Verify uses) currently contains 435 million records; more than 100 million more than the nation's total population, legal or otherwise. In December 2006, the SSA Inspector General reported approximately 18 million of these records are not accurate. Yet, DHS wants E-Verify made mandatory for the entire American work force.

    "As a matter of simple math," says Jim Harper at the CATO Institute, "that means that if E-Verify were to go national, on the first day 1 in 25 legal hires would be bounced out of the system and asked to go down to the Social Security office and straighten out the problem."

    Imagine the problems faced by honest, law abiding Americans who are thrown out of the system. In most cases, these are not well-to-do executives who can simply take the afternoon off to fix the problem. They are lower level workers who depend on every dime they earn to pay the rent and feed the kids. Simply taking a day off to go down to the local Social Security office isn't an easy thing.

    From the moment they are found to be a "tentative non-confirmed" they have eight days to contest the claim and to prove they are legal. A day off work is required because the Social Security office is only open from 8:30am to 5:00pm. If the employer fails to make it to the office in the 8 days, the employer is required by threat of fine and criminal charges to fire the employee.

    Moreover, as the E-Verify system is forced on all employers and the large numbers of employees (as reported above) are thrown from the system, there will be a massive run on the Social Security office. The SS Administration is simply not equipped to handle such a massive influx of cases. The infrastructure to handle it is not in place.

    As anyone who tried to get a passport last year knows, when the government makes significant, mandatory changes in a system, typically government inefficiency rules. New rules concerning passports forced Americans to flood passport offices, but the offices weren't prepared to receive and process the massive number of applicants. The E-Verify System would force much larger numbers into unprepared Social Security offices.

    Now, under E-Verify, employees that do make it to the SS office may be forced to return day after day. Jobs and income will be lost as the Employment Eligibility Verification (EEV) process does not permit employers to hold the jobs or delay start dates. The clock starts to tick the second the tentative non-confirmed notice is issued and runs out in exactly 8 days.


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    If it's all been a mistake, the burden of proof is on the employee to prove who they are and that they are legal citizens or residents eligible to continue working. These law-abiding American citizens enter the Social Security Office as criminal suspects with the potential of being deported. Contrary to American law, they are guilty until proven innocent. Incredibly, there is no appeals process in place to challenge the findings of E-Verify.

    MORE FRAUD - NOT LESS

    The E-Verify System is promoted as the only foolproof way to stop illegals from obtaining jobs. Advocates say the program has enough safeguards to protect citizens. Not so fast. Once the system is in place there are huge gaps that allow massive fraud.

    To work efficiently, an E-Verify System allows employers access to a centralized record of all legal residents and citizens. Given the government's mixed record on data security, this could become a one-stop-shop for identity theft.

    First, illegals and those employers wishing to hire them can simply work under the table, paying cash, hiding the transaction from any official source. Illegals don't regularly file income taxes, so the hire isn't hard to hide.

    On a larger scale, it must be understood that illegal immigration is big business and it has the money and the means to create false documents and to provide "legal" identification, complete with matching names and Social Security numbers.

    Today, many illegals simply make up names and Social Security numbers, hoping not to get caught. Of course, the E-Verify system would catch them. However, in response, an illegal only has to obtain the name and SS number of a legal citizen. While that legal person may already be working a job, it will not create an alert if the information is used by someone else.

    Such information can be available through a wide variety of situations, including stolen lists and select employees with access to databases like the Social Security lists. Organized crime can certainly have well placed cohorts. The process would create a massive criminal market for Americans citizens' personal information.

    The only way to stop it is for the federal government to create a new database that records every new hire and monitor all employees in the nation.

    The real losers in this game are the people who have now had their identity stolen in the process. They may be the ones accused of identity theft as they suddenly discover someone else is using their name and SS number.

    Of course, the federal government has proven it has no ability to safeguard the records in its current databases. And the more databases established, the more opportunity for theft.

    Recently, federal employees have been caught "sneaking a peek" at the passports of a large number of celebrities and even presidential candidates including Barack Obama, John McCain and Hillary Clinton.

    In August of this year, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) lost a laptop computer which contained the records of 33,000 people who had signed up for its pre-screening program, designed to give travelers quicker access through airport security. The unencrypted information in the database included names, addresses, driver's license numbers, passport numbers, Social Security numbers, Alien registration numbers, and current credit card numbers.

    The laptop was in the possession of employees of a private company contracting with TSA for the project. TSA signup documents for the project promise that the records will be maintained at its headquarters in Arlington, VA and "other authorized TSA or DHA secure facilities, as necessary, and at a digital safe site managed by a government contractor." In reality, the laptop was stashed in a locked office at the San Francisco Airport. There are a lot of laptops containing personal information of Americans being taking home by government employees these days. Why?

    MISSION CREEP

    The greatest threat from establishment of a system such as E-Verify is the creation of perhaps unintended results. As Cato's Jim Harper surmises, "The things to make a system like this impervious to forgery and fraud would convert it from an identity system into a cradle-to-grave biometric tracking system."

    "Mission Creep" is the commonly used description for a program designed for a specific purpose, but is later used for much more. A prime example of mission creep is the Social Security System itself. It was designed specifically as a means for people to deposit money into a government program to provide for their retirement years. Today, there are those who want to take its databank of users and transform it into an identity system to prove American citizenship. "Well, it's already there!" That's mission creep.

    As reported in the beginning, DHS Secretary Chertoff intends to increase the E-Verify system to include biometric photographs and extended databases. On numerous occasions Secretary Chertoff has expressed his desire to create a national identification card that would include near complete information on its bearer. This would include job, medical, tax, and school records. It would also include biometric and facial recognition, with RFID microchips that could monitor the whereabouts of every American.

    E-Verify is the beginning of the creation of such a system. Is it worth it for Americans to endure an existence in a well-controlled matrix of surveillance simply to catch some illegal workers? Communities across the nation are proving that illegals will stop coming here - in fact actually leave - if they are made to feel unwelcome.

    E-Verify sets the stage for a national workforce management system which gives the government ultimate power to decide who works and who doesn't. It is designed to ultimately subject all Americans to an intrusive global surveillance system as the information in DHS databanks is being transferred to international systems through such DHS partners as American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA) and the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).



    The federal government has been given the mandate by the people to close the borders and keep them out. It doesn't require cradle-to-grave biometric tracking of every legal American to accomplish that task. Facts show that such "internal enforcement" would not reduce the illegality, it would promote it. Border security combined with real efforts by the government to keep illegals out of the country will do much more to stop the flood than by chaining American citizens to massive, all knowing surveillance data banks


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    Moreover, as the E-Verify system is forced on all employers and the large numbers of employees (as reported above) are thrown from the system, there will be a massive run on the Social Security office. The SS Administration is simply not equipped to handle such a massive influx of cases. The infrastructure to handle it is not in place.
    OH PLEASE.....SPARE ME. A MASSIVE RUN ON THE SS OFFICE? LOL.
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    An attempt to scare people away from supporting E-Verify.
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    I had to obtain valid birth certificates ( I decided to get two copies) and it took about an hour at the state record's office and cost $35.00. Not a big deal at all. I suppose if you lived a good distance away it would be more of a challenge. They were needed by the Social Security Administration to complete some business.

    Is this written by a Ron Paul supporter? Sounds like it.
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    I support E-verify. It's WORKING in AZ and will work nationally.

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    Why Ron Paul supporter?

    It's flimflam.

    I think it was written by LaRaza, a supporter of Pres. Bush, Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain. It sounds like their rhetoric

    So the idea is 'build a fence - well sorta fence - here and there fence. Don't do anything on the interior that might fix the problem. Goodness if we do that, the might go home before we can get an amnesty in place.'

    E veryify needs to be made mandatory for ALL employees - existing and new employees and it needs to include checking for name, dob, and sex, and these must all match the info in SS.

    Why not alert everyone in the country to simply go by a SS office and get 'their papers in order'. It doesn't take more than 5 minutes to be sure the name, dob, sex, and number all match.
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    Good Lord, this is only so much BS!
    "millions of Americans will be affected", blah, blah, blah,
    Well, Tom, I have yet to meet one of those 17 million, obviously they must all be in your city!
    Hmmm...lets estimate, out of a population of 300 million, maybe 50% work??? Thats 150 million. 17 mill is one out of ten. So, 220 people work at the factory where I work, I guess I'll be seeing 22 people fired real soon.
    Yeah, right. You are so full of crap, it isn't even funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron
    I had to obtain valid birth certificates ( I decided to get two copies) and it took about an hour at the state record's office and cost $35.00. Not a big deal at all. I suppose if you lived a good distance away it would be more of a challenge. They were needed by the Social Security Administration to complete some business.

    Is this written by a Ron Paul supporter? Sounds like it.
    YOU CAN ALSO GET A CERTIFIED COPY OF YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE BY MAIL. ITS 17 BUCKS PER CERTIFICATE. IT TAKES THREE WEEKS TO GET IT BY MAIL THOUGH. BUT I HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A CERTIFIED COPY OF THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE. ITS CHEAP. IT CAN BE DONE AHEAD OF TIME SO EVERYONE IS READY. I AM READY.
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    Tom DeWeese has been speaking out against E-verify for some time now. I've read more than a handful of his rantings against the program.

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    Rather than work to strengthen the borders and take steps to stop illegals from getting here in the first place, many now seek "internal enforcement" rather than the "rule of law." In other words, take action after leaving the barn door open.
    Great Point. Thanks for the post

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