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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnB2012
    It appears to me that no one person wrote "El Plan de Aztlan" and based on when and where it was written, it more than likely was written in English and not Spanish.

    I still can't figure out what "carnalismo" means......
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    I’m not one to go stirring a hornets nest, especially my first post out, but the other day, I received an e-mail from my cousins kid attending college out in California, at UCLA this picture is said to be from an Hispanic school newspaper I don’t know if any of you have seen it or not. I thought I would post it, and see what the response would be.



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    Welcome bit o ruckus.

    We need an immediate source for this picture. Where did you get it? Who made it? What paper?

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    I have seen that picture before but have no idea of its origin. In fact there is a similar picture on the home page of La Voz de Aztlan.
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    W, I wonder how our pro-illegal friends would explain away the scene on that poster? Hmmmm......... Looks like we need to find that out!
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    I've seen the Aztlan map, but never the rest of it. I don't doubt it's authenticity though. I've read the Mecha preamble, and Voz de Aztlan isn't bashful either.

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    Part of this image is on the Aztlan dot net website on the left with the caption "La Liberacion de Aztlan"

    The question is, who made this image and who is using the whole image. The bones and skulls and the Aztlan map with this image is honestly harmful to their movement. The image could have been made by a group opposing the Aztlan's

    The image above is a powerful image but we cannot do anything with it unless we can confirm the origins and authenticity of this image and its uses.

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    You're absolutely right, William. I'll see what I can dig up. Would be nice if we knew for sure.

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    at UCLA this picture is said to be from an Hispanic school newspaper
    Ruckus said that it was from an hispanic school newspaper

    I imagine that is quite a school! Glad I don't live near it.
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    This picture is photoshop art assembled by someone.

    We need to determine if the Aztlan groups created it and are using it or if an anti-Aztlan group or individual created and used it.

    This picture has two entirely different meanings based on who created it and distributed it.

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