Thread: Elections

Originally Posted by jlo

How do I find out about conventions? I want a say in who's name is on the ballot this year!

As someone has already said, go to your county party website. If they don't have a website, go to the state website.

Both party's have county and state conventions, once a year. To become a precinct person, find your county party chairman form the website, and find out who is in your precint. If no one has volunteered for your precinct, then volunteer to take it over. You will be trained what a precinct chair's job is. If there is already a precinct person, that precinct chair can have a certain number of alternates that help the pecinct chair out, and can vote at conventions. Become and alternate, the precinct postion is filled. Hope this information will help you decide what you would like to do.

But let me tell you, that no one will "ever" find a party that they will 100% agree with. There will always be something that will tick you off.

This is the website for the NC Rpublican Party, if interested.

http://www.ncgop.org/home/index.asp

Originally Posted by JuniusJnr

The Republican Party right now is all we've got, sad as that may be

If you feel that way, then know you have nothing.

We have got to get those republicans out.

Really! I'm honest in how I feel about the party right now, but I see no other alternative in the "immediate" future. Once again, sitting on the sidelines waiting for the mythical, perfect party and candidate is silly and a waste of time.

Realistically, look what would replace the Republican Party. A Socialist/Communist Democrat Party. Sorry, No thanks. The PC police came from the Democrats. And the type of government they want is a socialist third world type of government. Their so tolerant, that they tolerate, intolerance. Sad, they use to be a great party.

I've been a republican all my life and I know that we have hit rock bottom now.

You sound like a jilted lover that has been betrayed, or a Democrat masquerading as a Republican. I'm going to fight for my Conservative values. Being a Republican does not even register with me, I'm fighting for the America I grew up in. And if that means I have to become a Republican, then that's what I'll do. There was a good chance that both parties would be different if people would have stayed in them and worked from the inside for change. Your probably like me, you voted in the local, state and national elections after the party elite had already voted and chosen a candidate. You got involved after the fact. All I ever did was vote, period. I now see that by not getting actively involved in the party, I let myself and my country down. What a mess we're in because of it.

So you wanted to vote for Kucinich. I hope you know that this guy never met a Socialist/Communist he didn't like. He loves Castro, and the form of government in Venasuala, and President Hugo Chavez. So you might want to do some research on that guy. No true Conservative, no matter how disaffected they feel would "ever" vote for this guy.

I'm voting against everyone who's in an office I can vote for come election time even if I have to vote for a democrat to do it.

If you want truly open borders with no resistance at all within the Democrat Party to illegals, then by all means go right ahead. Your only cutting your nose off to spite your face. At least within the Republican Party there are still some true patriots that are fighting for secure bordes, and recognizes the threat to our culture and heritage. Tancredo, Sensenbrenner, JD Hayworth, Ron Paul, Kyle, and several others in the Republican party are to be supported. And to throw the baby out with the bath water is irresponsible.

We can't be any worse off than we are now.

Oh yes, it surely can be worse. Sit on the sidelines hoping for a prefect party will only make it worse, and worse. I find the Constitution Party really interesting, but they have no realistic chance of becoming a viable electable party in the near future. The country needs help "NOW" not years down the road. If we wait for some other party to become promanate enough to make a difference, then I think it will be to late. As much as I would like to see that happen.

ACT "NOW"!... START "NOW"!... GET INVOLVED "NOW"!... with your local Republican Party. As they say, "All politics is local". Find out on the local and state level what potintial candidates believe, and make it clear, as an involved party member, with influence within the party, what stands on issues that you will support. Make it happen! Butt heads. Get in there and fight for America.

Sorry, Native, although I don't like your slurs about me being a Democrat masquereding as a Republican, I disagree vehemently with your idea. That accusation is typical of the far right wingers on GOPUSA who dis anyone who isn't in their camp and it isn't flattering to the republicans' cause.

Yes, Democrats to me are communists/socialists. But Republicans are mostly facists using their religion as some fake beacon of hope that doesn't exist.

Therefore, we need to get them all out of there by any means possible.

I see it as a matter of accountabillity. If we can get the jokers out of there who obviously do not CARE what we, as voters, want, then we will have a whole lot more control over the situation than we have now. The Republican party is definitely not the answer and I truly hope it gets wiped out as easily as it took a foothold. Both major political parties today are dangerous people who mean this country serious harm.

As for the Constitutionalist Party, I see some good in them. Their platform against social assistance worries me because we have literally thousands of veterans who require social assistance and the people who sent them to war are directly resonsible for their needs. I will never vote for anyone who doesn't recognize this country's responsibililty to people who fought and/or died thinking they were preserving this country for us. As for the Libertarians, their open borders platform disturbs me greatly and I will never vote for a candidate who wants open borders under any circumstances.

Please, let's not make this about our differences as Republicans or Democrats. We're all affected. I'm a Republican and I fell like I'm getting screwed by both parties. Don't let your party affiliation divide us.

Originally Posted by JuniusJnr

[quoteSorry, Native, although I don't like your slurs about me being a Democrat masquereding as a Republican, I disagree vehemently with your idea. That accusation is typical of the far right wingers on GOPUSA who dis anyone who isn't in their camp and it isn't flattering to the republicans' cause.

Yes, Democrats to me are communists/socialists. But Republicans are mostly facists using their religion as some fake beacon of hope that doesn't exist.

Therefore, we need to get them all out of there by any means possible.

I see it as a matter of accountabillity. If we can get the jokers out of there who obviously do not CARE what we, as voters, want, then we will have a whole lot more control over the situation than we have now. The Republican party is definitely not the answer and I truly hope it gets wiped out as easily as it took a foothold. Both major political parties today are dangerous people who mean this country serious harm..

I thought anyone that would vote for Kucinich would be a Dem. After all, he was the far, far, far, lefts farvorite candidate. It was an honest mistake, It just puzzled me.

As for being a GOPUSA right winger, I know nothing about that site. I just changed my affiliation late last year. All this party stuff is new to me. And if totally embracing the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, working to overturn Eminate Doman, and at the same time supporting Property Rights. Demanding that the borders be secured to keep America a soverign nation, and a lover of God, Country and Apple Pie, then I am a right winger, and proud of it.

Yes, lets get all the scum sucking corrupt politicians out that are distroying the country. That's my goal.

I've waited for years for the revolution, but no one has the guts for it. So I'm working from within. I hope we get enough of the regular working folks in the Republican Party so it will split. I would love to get rid of the Wall Street Jornal, wine and cheese, country club crowd. Even if I don't win, It's fun trying.

The Point... Going Independant means not having any say in the political process. And all the griping, swearing, moaning and threats of a revolution will not change that. The Indepentdants will die still trying to find the perfect party and candidate, while the country burns. Without having made any significant difference.

As important as voting is, it's not enough. It means "working" everyday to reach your goals. I chose to do it within the system.

I hope you find what your looking for. I might join you, if you do. But for now I've found a purpose, and potintial way to meet my goals, till something better comes along.

Originally Posted by jlo

Please, let's not make this about our differences as Republicans or Democrats. We're all affected. I'm a Republican and I fell like I'm getting screwed by both parties. Don't let your party affiliation divide us.

Your absolutely right! I will join anyone that wants to secure the borders and stop this invasion.

PEACE!!!

Originally Posted by native

Originally Posted by jlo

Please, let's not make this about our differences as Republicans or Democrats. We're all affected. I'm a Republican and I fell like I'm getting screwed by both parties. Don't let your party affiliation divide us.

Your absolutely right! I will join anyone that wants to secure the borders and stop this invasion.

PEACE!!!

I myself are one of those trying to make it to the ballot in Texas. There are Independents and 3rd parties out there. They need help to get signatures. The laws are so skewed to keep the 2 ruling parties in power (yes I said 2 ruling parties). They are the same and until we stop being scared and get some of the others on the ballot, things will not change.

But then again it might actually take some work. Asking that of most Americans that want change, is like asking for their first born. That is to actualy go out and help make that change.

native:

Let me break it down. It can be done. In Texas where I am, to get a statewide office; US Senator and Governor you need this year 45,540 valid signatures. With this said, you need either at least 60 really dedicated people to get 1,000 signatures each or 500 not as dedicated to get about 120 signatures each. You only have 2 months to do this. That get you on the general election ballot. Once that is done you push really hard to get you message and campaign and names out there. It can be done.

I do agree with you on one of your statements. Need to get active NOW. But I disagree with you that Republicans as they are now is the answer. Get out there and help someone that may really try to make a change.

Not that JuniusJnr needs any help, but I know for a fact JuniusJnr is not leftist Democrat.

Anyone is welcome to see my website. http://www.lonestarloux.com

Originally Posted by 50CALMCDC

native:

Let me break it down. It can be done. In Texas where I am, to get a statewide office; US Senator and Governor you need this year 45,540 valid signatures. With this said, you need either at least 60 really dedicated people to get 1,000 signatures each or 500 not as dedicated to get about 120 signatures each. You only have 2 months to do this. That get you on the general election ballot. Once that is done you push really hard to get you message and campaign and names out there. It can be done.

I do agree with you on one of your statements. Need to get active NOW. But I disagree with you that Republicans as they are now is the answer. Get out there and help someone that may really try to make a change.

Not that JuniusJnr needs any help, but I know for a fact JuniusJnr is not leftist Democrat.

Anyone is welcome to see my website. http://www.lonestarloux.com

Been there, Done that. No change! Even if you could get someone on the ballot, everyone is suspicious, of a new upstart, and are not comfortable in voting for them. You really have to have a media blitz to get any media attention. The only reason Ross Perot, was able to make a dent, was because he was wealthy. Unless you have that, good luck in getting your message out.

And all these Independants, if you layed them down end to end, they'ed point all different direction. Half of them want a Socialist/Communist government, so it would be hard to bring them on board without apeasing them somehow. I want to get back to the Constitution, Bill of Rights, The Federalist papers and the intent of the founding fathers, through their writings and the early history of our nation as the guide.


So as I said, go for it. Work really hard, as I will be working really hard to elect the right candidats to run for office. All my attention is focused on the local and state level. Those are the ones that will go on to make change. I know several candidates running for state office very, very well. And these guys feel as strongly about getting back to the Constitution as I. And they rail against the open borders, illegal immigration, and the deplorable inaction of the Republican Party. They are true patriots.

So I wish you well. We no doubt have common ground. It's just how we go about getting to the same place.

I want to get back to the Constitution, Bill of Rights, The Federalist papers and the intent of the founding fathers, through their writings and the early history of our nation as the guide.

IMHO, the Constitution Party is the ONLY party that keeps your desires in the forefront of their campaigns. No change can occur overnight, especially when the problem has been allowed to fester for so long.

There are so many RINO's out there it's hard to know which ones are worth keeping, and which ones deserve the boot.

You are correct when you say there is no such thing as the 'perfect' party, but some are more 'imperfect' than others. Read their platform and if you can agree with them MORE than the Republicans or Democrats, work for their election at the local and state levels.

When Republicans see their REAL base start to erode, they will be forced to realign their priorities more in line with the wishes of the majority.