Thread: Elsmere great town - unless you're Mexican

Elsmere is a great town -- unless you're Mexican

DELAWARE VOICE

People see the things that we do. But God knows why we do them.

The pictures on the front page of The News-Journal told an incredible story. The one picture was of our town sign: "Elsmere: a wonderful place to live."

The other picture next to it: of a Mexican woman, looking heart-broken; told the rest of the story. Yes, Elsmere is a great place to live ... unless you're brown; unless you are Mexican.

What this town has done is create laws that have made life more difficult for a targeted group of people.

Now hear me well: I am not, in any way, endorsing anything that is illegal.

According to the law, the police now have the right to ticket "those people," and if they don't pay the fine, they have the right to issue a warrant for their arrest.

But every Christian knows, just because it's legal, does not mean that it is right. Abortion is legal in this country, and we absolutely believe that it is wrong.

Did Mexicans get their cars tagged in Pennsylvania because it was easier, and/or cheaper?

And if the issue really is -- they need to get Delaware tags -- then why not do something to help them get their cars tagged here?

Laws are put in place to help society.

But the founder of our faith makes it clear: people always come first; laws are not what matter most; people are.

And if a law is created in order to target a certain group of people, if it's intent is to make life more difficult for them; then that law is morally wrong.

Again and again, Jesus broke the law in order to show the people in authority, that their focus was wrong. And don't try to minimize this reality by claiming that the laws Jesus broke were religious laws. In the 1st century Palestinian world, religious laws were civil laws!

They didn't kill Jesus because he was a nice guy; they killed him because he threatened the way they lived their life: because he welcomed those who were outcasts; he made friends with outsiders; he would dine with those foreigners.

Jesus said: blest are these poor ones; Holy are these "little ones" who are persecuted: And he told his disciples: you who have much; you must welcome and serve those who are the least among you.

People want to believe that if it's American and legal, then it must be Christian. Don't be naïve. Christianity is far more demanding than most of us have allowed ourselves to believe.

I'm not being a maverick; I'm not being radical. Read the stories for yourself; see what Jesus did; and listen to what he told others to do. And then you'll know for sure. It is absolutely clear where Jesus would stand on this issue.

Some have said that if the Mexicans aren't welcome here, then they should move out, that they should boycott the businesses of Elsmere.

But I say only one voice has been heard.

There is another voice, a loud and caring Christian voice that says: Bienvenidos! You are most certainly welcome here!

The way we move forward, will be determined by what we choose as more important: the way of Jesus, or, as has been said: "get them out of this town!"

And only the welcomed presence of God, seen in what we call "God's least little Ones," will determine ultimately whether Elsmere really is: a wonderful place to live!

The Rev. Gregory Corrigan is the pastor of Corpus Christi Parish in Elsmere.

http://delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll ... 08/OPINION

GAH! Everytime I read these "have mercy on the illegal" peices, written by members of the clergy, I wanna hurl. If they support the unlaw presence of illegal aliens aren't they, by proxy, supporting those that exploit them? I want to leave a comment on this peice but I am afraid my knowledge of scripture is pretty rusty. If anyone knows of any verses that counter those he quoted, feel free to ad them to this thread.

So he's saying it's ok to break any law and that we should help criminals get away with crimes?

That made me want to hurl. I only got halfway through it. Barf!

Dixie

I wish this bleeding-heart fool would come to MY CHURCH to say this.
Two families in our small church membership have had their lives
nearly DESTROYED by wrecks caused by illegal alien hispanic drivers. (One member died as a result of one of these wrecks.)

BEING A CHRISTIAN MEANS STANDING UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT, AND NOT SUPPORTING LAW-BREAKING FOOLS.

Originally Posted by greyparrot

Elsmere is a great town -- unless you're Mexican

DELAWARE VOICE

Now hear me well: I am not, in any way, endorsing anything that is illegal.

But every Christian knows, just because it's legal, does not mean that it is right. Abortion is legal in this country, and we absolutely believe that it is wrong

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The Rev. Gregory Corrigan is the pastor of Corpus Christi Parish in Elsmere.

http://delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll ... 08/OPINION


Aliens, Foreigners, Visitors, Settlers and Strangers.

In response to the posting of Leviticus;

Alien residents referred to in the old testament had more to do with religion and the Mosaic law than be an alien from another country.
They were, in the 1st century subject to the laws of the Israelites given to them by God. It is not to be confused with obeying superior authorities in the New Testament.

Law covenant given to the Israelites were different from the law covenant instituted by Christ. Mosaic law only applied to the Israelites.

In the bible “alien resident” refers to a settler in the land of Palestine who was content to live among the Israelites, obeying the laws of the land but not fully accepting the worship of Jehovah.
Deut 5;14, 1;18, Lev 22;10.

The law covenant allowed for persons to come into the congregation of Israel by accepting the true worship of Jehovah and being circumcised and there were exceptions and restrictions. Egyptian and Edomites could not enter into the congregation until the third generation...
Deut. 33;7,8
illegitimate sons and their descendants were denied entry into the congregation “to the tenth generation”
Deut23;2
Ammonites and Moabites were prohibited “to the tenth generation”...to time indefinite...Deut.23;3-6

The alien resident who had become a circumcised worshiper was bound to one law with the Israelites..to obey all the terms of the Law covenant.
Lev 24;22

Alien residents, not having any land inheritance, ...some were slaves.
.Lev 25;44-46

Marriage alliances with foreigners war prohibited, due to the danger of corruption of pure worship. Ex 34;16 deut. 7;3,24, josh 23;12,13.

No actual alliance would be formed with foreign tribe of family.... her parent having been slain when her city was taken.
Deut 21;10-14.

In governmental matters had no political status and could never become a king. Deut 17;15.

The Israelites experienced many outrages at the hands of foreigner.
Lam 2;5-12,19-22.
Jews were in constant conflict with the foreigner around them...these factors, couples with the fear of mongrelising their race through intermarriage with foreigners....
1 kings 8;41-43; 2 Chor 6;32,33; Isa. 56;6,7.

As a rule the Jews had no dealing with the Samaritans, a people of mixed descent from Israelites and foreigners. John 4;8.

“You well know how unlawful it is for a Jew to join himself to or approach a man of another race.” Acts 10;28.

This all had to do with religion and not being an illegal alien from another country. So there is no relation between the problem we are having now, in the 21st, century with illegal aliens and the alien resident of the 1st century israelites.



Alien resident.
If Christian are obligated to love “aliens” (illegal aliens) then we are also obligated to “love our enemies” and since God said; “vengeance is mine” we should not kill terrorist. There were wars in the past that were approved by God, but they were religious wars and he was the fighter.
An “alien” during the days of Abraham did not mean what and “illegal aliens” means today.
Mexico is obligated, like American, to take care of it’s people. Mexico has a wealth of natural resources and only a few benefit from it. Mexico’s people are not starving but come here for social services and economic reasons that Mexico is capable of providing.
Instead of going after Saddam and terrorist we should be going after Mexico to care for it’s people. Churches can feed, clothe and counsel and provide transportation for illegals to go back home and come back here through legal channels like those who come into this country legally. If they help and encourage illegals aliens to stay in this country by breaking our laws, then they are all criminals. (Federal Immigration and Nationality Act) We are all obligated to obey God’s laws and laws of Superior Authorities.
We can obey God’s laws concerning aliens and obey secular law at the same time.
We have laws concerning immigration and we cannot choose the laws we want to obey and break because we do not agree with them.

Roman 13;2-4....”Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities....the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.....He who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves.”

Titus 3;1...be obedient to government and authorities as rulers.
Gen 15;13....”And began to say to Abram; “You may know for sure that your seed will become an alien resident in a land not theirs, and they will have to serve them, and these will certainly afflict them for four hundred years.”
Isa 14; 2..... “And peoples will actually take them and bring them to their own place, and the house of Israel must take them to themselves as a possession upon the soil of Jehovah as menservants and maidservants, and they must become the captors of those holding them captive, and they must have in subjection those who were driving them to work.”
Acts 7;6....God spoke to this effect, that his seed would be alien residents in a foreign land and the people would enslave them and afflict them for four hundred years.”
Lev 25;44-46...from the sons of the settlers who are residing as aliens with you; ....they must become your possession....you must pass then on as an inheritance to your sons after you to inherit as a possession to time indefinite...
SANCTUARY AND CITIES OF REFUGE;

The Sanctuary is a part of Temple or the Synagogue and has nothing to do with a place to harboring criminals as in the churches of today.

Jehovah’s arrangement for the protection of unintentional manslayers was from the so-called cities of refuge and other sanctuaries set up by ancient pagan nations and by Christendom’s churches down through he ages.
The latter sanctuaries offered shelter for criminals of every sort along with the innocent, and encouraged wanton killing. Israel cities of refuge gave protection to only the innocent and then only under restrictions, thus promoted respect for the sanctity of life.

There is no sanctuary in a place of worship for an illegal alien, who is a criminal because they have broken the law of our land, to take refuge from prosecution.

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

"Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

IT IS ILLEGAL FOR NONPROFIT OR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, REGARDLESS OF CLAIMS THAT THEIR CONVICTIONS REQUIRE THEM TO ASSIST ALIENS. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

A place set apart for the worship of God or of gods, a holy place.
1 Chron 22;19. Isa 16;12. Ezek 28;18. Amos 7;9,13. Deut 12;11.

Cities of refuge were established by God where unintentional manslayer could go for protection from those who wanted to take revenge.
Deut 19;4,5. Num 35;6-22. Josh 20;2-9.


Boundaries (borders)

Boundaries were set in place by God from the beginning of time and for a reason.

Gen 4;10,11....3;23,24...
Josh13;23.... The territory or land enclosed within a border or boundary.


Gen 15;18-21. Ex 23;31..... To Abraham and his seed God promised a certain land with definitely stated boundaries.

Gen 15;13-16.....would enforce an eviction decree when “the error of the Amorites” came to its completion.

Deut 2;4,5,18,19....Jehovah God also decreed that the Israelites would not encrouch on the boundaries of the nations of Edom, ....

Deut 32;8....when the Most High gave the nations an inheritance, when he parted the sons of Adam from one another, he proceeded to fix the boundary of the people with regard for the number of the sons of Israel.”

Eph 2;12-16....Under penalty of death, Gentiles were prohibited beyond that boundary, such wall serving the apostle as an apt illustration of the division created by the Law covenant.

Isa 54;l14,15...60;18..Co 3;16,17. These spiritual boundaries are to be held inviolate, for God warns that those invading them will meet with destruction.

Do they ever tire of whining?

Dyehard,

One word: AWESOME!

Thank you so much for that post, which I have both hard copied and saved to file. After all, you never know when it will come in handy.

NoIllegalsAllowed wrote:

So he's saying it's ok to break any law and that we should help criminals get away with crimes?

Not only is he saying it is okay and that we should help them, he is also saying we should make it easier for them to break our laws.

Since my city passed an anti-illegal ordinance a few weeks ago we have had an unending stream of comments and letters from area clergy telling us how mean-spirited and "un-Christian" we are.

What makes me crazy is the blatant hypocrisy of these people. Without exception they always first state that they do not support illegal behavior. Then in the next breath they castigate us for taking steps to punish those who enable illegals! How can they say this with a straight face!?

Lastly, they INSIST on making this a racial issue; MEXICANS and anyone else are welcome as long as they are LEGAL. What exactly do they not comprehend? And as for caring for the least of us--what makes an illegal foreign national more worthy of care and compassion than the worker who loses his/her job due to illegal immigration? Or the families of victims who were killed by illegals? Or the poor person who is on a fixed income whose taxes are raised in order to support more illegals?