Thread: The emergency show on the Border

Gov Nappy just recently completely gutted a measure overwhelmingly passed by Arizona voters. All you have to do to vote now is show a bank statement or a phone bill or the like. It's disgusting. Once she tried to give all illegal pregnant women 500.00 in benefits and that disappeared, I hadn't heard what happened to that. I suppose it passed.

Everything voters tried to do to protect ourselves and help ourselves and get the laws we already have enforced, she plants herself firmly in the way. This person is so blatantly open borders and pro-illegal alien its ridiculous.

Yes, I think it's a way to keep the Minutemen out I said a long time ago they would find some way to do this. I also think it's a pre-emptive strike to keep themselves from losing money for their sanctuary policies. There's a bill winding its way through the legislative process to cut off federal funding to any city with a sanctuary policy. In my opinion anything less than outright arrest of all illegal aliens should qualify for funding removal.

Nobody changes that fast.

Governor Richardson and Napolitano are reading the polls for the upcoming elections.

They are pandering hoping the American People will buy their sudden conversion to enforce the borders.

Here is a quote from Gov Richardson:

http://www.michellemalkin.com/immigration/

But Mr. Richardson sang a different tune in late 2003, when he showed up at a rally for the "Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride" and told them, "¡Viva la raza! . . . Thank you for coming to Santa Fe. Know that New Mexico is your home. We will protect you. You have rights here."

Chris Simcox was on Fox and Friends this morning and said it best when he was questioned about Napolitano and Richardson.

I will think they are serious when they sign the order to put the National Guard on the Border.

I agree, when they both put the National Guard on deployment then we can believe this is not an election ploy.

I think hell will freeze over first.

These two traitors have shown their true colors in the past. Especially Richardson when he allowed the Chinese to steal our Nuclear Weapons secrets when he was in charge of the Energy Department under Clinton.

ScottyDog" glad you're here!!!


exactly what "rights" do illegals have in New Mexico? Does the Constitution for the State of Mexico grant rights to "illegal aliens"? because the Governor can't confer "rights" of citizenship to anybody


Every state is subject to a "uniform rule of naturalization" for "immigrants" where they become entitled to the privileges and "rights" of citizenship in the several states and they have no more "rights" in New Mexico than any other state


Illegal aliens are NOT immigrants under the laws of the United States. Illegal aliens are in violation of the "law of nations" and NO STATE can pardon offenses against the "law of nations" not even Congress or the President has that authority --- Congress is to "define and punish" violations of the "law of nations" PERIOD . . .


I've contacted my reps in the State Legislature . . . you'll be surprised that they don't realize Congress can't grant amnesty . . . we need State Legislatures that know their rights and we need Senators from the State to represent the States in Congress . . .

I stated in another post that Richardson is just doing this because he is a potential candidate for the Presidency. In the past he has been an ally for illegal immigration. Later I found more on some of his positions in the past. Here they are.....
"In New Mexico, Gov. Richardson has done much the same thing. He now blasts the federal government for not showing "the commitment or the leadership to deal with border issues." He is demanding that officials on the Mexican side bulldoze an abandoned town on the border that serves "as a staging area for illegal drugs and illegal aliens." But Mr. Richardson sang a different tune in late 2003, when he showed up at a rally for the "Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride" and told them, "¡Viva la raza! . . . Thank you for coming to Santa Fe. Know that New Mexico is your home. We will protect you. You have rights here." Jaime Becerril, one of the organizers of the freedom ride, told the Santa Fe New Mexican that the participants favored a new amnesty program. He called immigration "a byproduct of colonialism and capitalism."
Further evidence of the governor's zigzag policy on immigration came in April when he vetoed a "No Fear" bill, which would have prohibited state and local law enforcement agencies from cooperating with federal authorities to detect or apprehend people based solely on immigration status. But then he quietly issued an executive order that had much the same effect. Earlier this year, he also signed legislation giving some illegal aliens the right to in-state tuition rates at public universities.

"The governor is all puff and no cigar," says David Pfeffer, a Santa Fe city councilman who abandoned the Democratic Party this past March when he concluded its members "were closer to Michael Moore than to me." He expects the governor "to run for national office while saying one thing while he does something else back home"

Originally Posted by Darlene

I stated in another post that Richardson is just doing this because he is a potential candidate for the Presidency. In the past he has been an ally for illegal immigration. Later I found more on some of his positions in the past. Here they are.....

another democratic flipper "I voted against border security before I voted for it" -- but this is subject to change at any time

www.nga.org

BILL RICHARDSON served for 15 years in northern New Mexico representing the 3rd Congressional District. He served in 1997 as the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, and in 1998, he was unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate as Secretary of the U.S. Department of Energy. Richardson was nominated several times for the Nobel Peace Prize. Richardson was elected governor of New Mexico in 2002 by the largest margin of any candidate since 1964.

During his first two years in office, Governor Richardson made good on his campaign promises to improve education, cut income taxes and the tax on food, build a high-wage economy, develop a statewide water plan, and make New Mexico safer by getting tough on DWI, domestic violence and sex crimes. Governor Richardson is continuing to move New Mexico forward in 2005, working to improve access to quality health care, investing in early childhood education, while also revamping the state's higher education system and making the state a leader in renewable energy and clean energy technologies.

Governor Richardson is a past chairman of the Western Governors' Association, the Border Governors' Conference and the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He currently serves as Chairman of the Democratic Governors' Association.

Could whoever broke this page so we have to scroll across the kitchen to read it, please fix it. And let me know it it was me....gulp...

Edited to add: I think it's Mamie's link.

Okay I edited the link to fix the scrolling problem.

Thanks for the good edit Brian

WHAT RICHARDSON AND Napolitano DO NOT REALIZE IS THEIR MOVE IS JUST THE BEGINING OF A PROCESS THAT FAVORS OUR CALLS FOR ENFORCEMENT!

Here is how we have seen this work in 2004. One candidate makes illegal immigration a top issue and the other scoff and resist at first not realizing the power of the issue with over 80% of the electorate including about half or more than half of the legal Latino population.

Then the other candidates decide they are the the publics best choice if you want immigration laws enforced. Then the other candidate or candidates try to up the ante and go further into the public desires....

THIS KIND OF THING CAN START A CYCLE OF CRITICISM AND ONE UPMANSHIP!

Are both these Governors up for reelection in 06?

If so, they may already be responding to the political agression of opponents attacking them on this issue.

W

Originally Posted by Lambsmarch

Could whoever broke this page so we have to scroll across the kitchen to read it, please fix it. And let me know it it was me....gulp...

Edited to add: I think it's Mamie's link.

hey! what did I do???

http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110007108


It does sound like Richardson is posturing!

JOHN FUND ON THE TRAIL
Run for the Border
Democrats try to outflank the GOP on immigration.
Monday, August 15, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

The politics of immigration are changing. On Friday Bill Richardson, the nation's only Hispanic governor, declared a "state of emergency" in four New Mexico border counties due to "a chaotic situation involving illegal alien smuggling and illegal drug shipments." His office has pledged $1.5 million for stepped-up law enforcement and also asked Chris Simcox, the president of the volunteer border patrol group Minutemen, for a meeting. Mr. Richardson, a man who wears his ambition for national office on his sleeve, has apparently decided he has to reposition himself on border issues.

He's not the only Democrat to do so. Sen. Hillary Clinton made headlines when she embraced high-tech measures to control the border with Mexico and fines for employers who hire illegal aliens. "Democrats clearly sense frustration on immigration among Bush's base voters and are trying to outflank him rhetorically on the right," says Martha Montelongo, a talk-show hostess in California.

President Bush is vulnerable on immigration. Earlier this summer House Republicans bluntly told him that his proposal to admit guest workers would be dead on arrival unless accompanied by more border enforcement. "All my constituent town meetings want to talk about is immigration and why Washington is still spending so much money," Rep. Kevin Brady of Texas told me. Indeed, 17 of the 37 GOP House and Senate members who responded to a National Journal survey last month identified immigration as the issue "most on the minds" of their constituents. One Republican identified immigration as the issue on which "the mismatch between the federal government's inaction and the realities at home is the greatest."

The same survey identified why Democrats think they have some running room with their base on immigration. Only two of the 35 Democratic members of Congress who were surveyed mentioned immigration as being the top concern among their voters.

Like Republicans, Democrats have long had an ambivalent attitude on the politics of immigration. In 1952, a Democratic Congress passed and Harry S. Truman signed into law the so-called Texas Proviso, which stated that employing illegal aliens would not be a violation of the law. But a dozen years later, Texan Lyndon B. Johnson gave in to union demands and abolished the Bracero program, which allowed Mexicans to enter as "temporary" workers to pick crops and do other jobs. Jimmy Carter tried to repeal the Texas Proviso, but the Democratic Congress instead set up a commission to study the matter. It was not until 1986 that Congress outlawed the hiring of illegal aliens, a measure that has been sporadically enforced.

Mrs. Clinton wants to have it both ways when it comes to immigration. Despite her noises about beefing up enforcement, she did not talk about immigration, temporary-worker programs or border enforcement when she addressed the National Council of La Raza, the largest Hispanic civil rights group in the country. "I was hoping to hear something," a surprised Nellie Moreno of Phoenix told the Washington Post.

Instead, Mrs. Clinton pandered to the liberal crowd and received a standing ovation when she announced a new bill that would guarantee in-state college tuition rates for the children of illegal immigrants as well as amnesty to some 65,000 illegal immigrant students who graduate from U.S. high schools each year. Patti Solis Doyle, Mrs. Clinton's chief political strategist and a Mexican-American, told Democratic friends that the speech was a smashing success.

"Hillary won 85% of the Hispanic vote in New York for Senate in 2000," says her former adviser turned adversary Dick Morris. "She thinks she can outbid the Republicans for Hispanic votes in 2008 while bringing Reagan Democrats home with vague rhetoric about getting tough and employer sanctions she has no intention of implementing."

In New Mexico, Gov. Richardson has done much the same thing. He now blasts the federal government for not showing "the commitment or the leadership to deal with border issues." He is demanding that officials on the Mexican side bulldoze an abandoned town on the border that serves "as a staging area for illegal drugs and illegal aliens." But Mr. Richardson sang a different tune in late 2003, when he showed up at a rally for the "Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride" and told them, "¡Viva la raza! . . . Thank you for coming to Santa Fe. Know that New Mexico is your home. We will protect you. You have rights here." Jaime Becerril, one of the organizers of the freedom ride, told the Santa Fe New Mexican that the participants favored a new amnesty program. He called immigration "a byproduct of colonialism and capitalism."

Further evidence of the governor's zigzag policy on immigration came in April when he vetoed a "No Fear" bill, which would have prohibited state and local law enforcement agencies from cooperating with federal authorities to detect or apprehend people based solely on immigration status. But then he quietly issued an executive order that had much the same effect. Earlier this year, he also signed legislation giving some illegal aliens the right to in-state tuition rates at public universities.

"The governor is all puff and no cigar," says David Pfeffer, a Santa Fe city councilman who abandoned the Democratic Party this past March when he concluded its members "were closer to Michael Moore than to me." He expects the governor "to run for national office while saying one thing while he does something else back home."

What is clear is that the Hispanic vote is more up for grabs than ever. Last year, about 60% of Hispanics voted for John Kerry. Sergio Bendixen, a pollster with the New Democrat Network, notes that Mr. Kerry won 65% of native-born Hispanics, even more than the 64% who voted for Bill Clinton in 1996. But support for Mr. Kerry among Hispanics who have immigrated to the U.S. dropped from Mr. Clinton's 82% to only 52% last year. "Hispanics who chose to come to this country and become citizens often embody the values of hard work, independence and freedom more than many native Americans," says Ms. Montelongo, the California talk-show hostess.

It's also clear that many Hispanics deplore the trend away from assimilation that has characterized U.S. policy in recent years. With dramatic gains in test scores among Hispanic students in English immersion programs since California voters ended most bilingual programs, a majority of the state's Hispanics embrace the new policy. And 47% of Hispanic voters in Arizona voted for Proposition 200, which denies some public services to illegal aliens and requires proof of citizenship to register to vote. As my colleague Steve Moore notes, the American people can't be expected to accept any immigration reform without assurances that all newcomers will follow in the path of other immigrant groups and assimilate.

President Bush's guest-worker program is politically stalled because of fears it will turn into another ill-fated amnesty program like the 1986 reform. But clearly a properly designed guest-worker program has promise. As the Bracero program for agricultural workers expanded in the 1950s, arrests of illegal aliens fell from 885,000 in 1953 to as low as 45,000 in 1959. After the Bracero program ended in 1964, apprehensions increased from 87,000 to 876,000 in 1976. They have remained at roughly that level or even higher ever since.

But Mr. Bush can win support for a guest-worker program only after he proves his bona fides in areas of legitimate concern on immigration. It is absurd that ranchers in New Mexico had to turn to state officials for money to repair fences at livestock yards on the border that had been trampled by smugglers bringing aliens across. At least 100 head of Mexican cattle had crossed the collapsed fence, bringing with them the threat of contagious diseases.

Similarly, Mr. Bush has to recognize that post-9/11 border security is now inextricably tied up in the public's mind with homeland security. In the ten months ending this July 24, border agents in the Tucson, Ariz., area arrested 375,000 illegals. More than 28,000 had criminal records, and dozens of others came from potentially worrisome countries such as Iran or Yemen.

Mr. Bush also needs to crack down on scofflaw officials who are thumbing their noses at federal immigration policy, including some in his own party. Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York has signed an executive order forbidding New York policemen to share information on immigration offenses with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, unless the immigrant breaks some other law or is suspected of terrorist activity.

As the maneuvering of Democrats such as Sen. Clinton and Gov. Richardson shows, Republicans risk letting Democrats turn immigration into a wedge issue that drives many voters to the other party. If Mr. Bush wants to leave office having brought about real immigration reform along with an increase in Hispanic support for Republicans, he must also pull off the delicate balancing act of convincing Americans that the federal government hasn't lost complete control of the border. Otherwise, the issue will remain stalemated and ripe for political demagoguery.