Thread: Can you give me an AMEN!!

I realize some of you might not turn your back on the Catholic and several other churches because of their helping illegals I have though. I think it would be a good idea for christians to let their churches know how much they disapprove of them helping to drive our country into the ground. They use words like human factor but fail to remember that this country can not take in the poor illegals that it has been. Its like a lifeboat that is full of people after a sinking ship. You might want to help those in the water but you have to say no we can not fit anymore people because we very well may tip over and everyone will die. Its no different with this country. How far should we go effect ourselves and ruin our education our hospitals our nice towns and cities to help these people. I recently posted a link to KPNX-TV Phoenix were a illegal immigrant activist one for " immigrants without borders" Says the "majoraty of the illegals that come to this country do not want to live here they just want the work. We need a way for these people to come here and work and then leave." The Catholic Church does too agree with this. THIS IS CALLED TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE US!!! WE ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO WORK IN BECAUSE YOUR THIRD WORLD BROKEDOWN COUNTRY DOSNT HAVE ITS ACT TOGETHER. BUT THEY DO NOT REALLY WANT TO BE PART OF AMERICA. They believe these illegals should be able to come work and then take their money with them to their HOME country. My opinion. Dont even bother coming and if you are just here for the work and show no loyalty to this country GET THE HELL OUT!! How can the church defend this? Its mindnumbing.

The church no longer represents God when they break the laws of the land for financial gain. Yes, the entire illegal immigration issue benefits the elite. Come out of them and do not partake in their evil.

I have tried to let the Catholic church know how upset I am. And its a shame that they have joined forces with Big Businesses on this issue.
I was raised Catholic, but have stopped worshiping at their churches ever since the sexual scandals hit the news.
I think alot of other people quit that church too, and have joined other denominations. Maybe the Catholic church is feeling the loss now, and think that their only way out, is to have all the illegal aliens join their church. They have lost my respect.

There's no reason why the churchs can't help the people in their own country . It would seem the catholic church should spend more time minding their own business as five diocese's have filed for bankruptcy rather than be sued for child molestation . Look , I understand how much money illegals give to the church but really , shouldn't they clean up their own house before trying to tell us which laws to break and which laws not to break .

Like they said on Lou Dobbs the other night, it's all about filling pews
(and by extension the collection plate. [my words])
The Catholic church has taken a huge hit in active members and lost the respect of many non-catholics with all the gay sexual abuse and then stonewalling investigations.

And to talk about how it's about compassion is just ridiculous. There are millions of AMERICANS that could use their help with housing, food, etc.

Matt 6:24
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
KJV


"Mammon" is defined as follows:

MAMMON

(mam'-un) (Mamonas): A common Aramaic word (mamon) for riches, used in Matt 6:24 and in Luke 16:9,11,13. In these passages mammon merely means wealth, and is called "unrighteous," because the abuse of riches is more frequent than their right use. In Luke 16:13 there is doubtless personification, but there is no proof that there was in New Testament times a Syrian deity called Mammon. The application of the term in Matthew is apparent and requires no comment. In Lk, however, since the statement, "Make to yourselves friends out of the mammon of unrighteousness," follows as a comment on the parable of the Unjust Steward, there is danger of the inference that Jesus approved the dishonest conduct of the steward and advised His disciples to imitate his example. On the contrary, the statement is added more as a corrective against this inference than as an application. `Do not infer,' He says, that honesty in the use of money is a matter of indifference. He that is unfaithful in little is unfaithful in much. So if you are not wise in the use of earthly treasure how can you hope to be intrusted with heavenly treasure?' The commendation is in the matter of foresight, not in the method. The steward tried to serve two masters, his lord and his lord's creditors, but the thing could not be done, as the sequel shows. Neither can men serve both God and riches exalted as an object of slavish servitude. Wealth, Jesus teaches, does not really belong to men, but as stewards they may use wealth prudently unto their eternal advantage. Instead of serving God and mammon alike we may serve God by the use of wealth, and thus lay up treasures for ourselves in heaven. Again, the parable is not to be interpreted as teaching that the wrong of dishonest gain may be atoned for by charity. Jesus is not dealing with the question of reparation. The object is to point out how one may best use wealth, tainted or otherwise, with a view to the future.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia)

Cindy wrote:

The church no longer represents God when they break the laws of the land for financial gain. Yes, the entire illegal immigration issue benefits the elite. Come out of them and do not partake in their evil.

What these churches are doing in reference to illegal immigration has nothing to with goodness or God. They are trying to use God as a convenient cover for their greed. I think they need to remember there is such a thing as "the wrath of God."

It sounds to me like the Catholic Church is trying to get more patronage, but also they are redeeming themselves with the MSM after all the pedophelia scandals.

Originally Posted by April

What these churches are doing in reference to illegal immigration has nothing to with goodness or God. They are trying to use God as a convenient cover for their greed.

Just what I was going to say April. As a recovering Catholic, and one who has been afflicted with the guilt that goes along with that, it took me a long time to distinguish between religion and faith. These priests are not God.

The "church" is a business, whose main priority is to bring in money. People do not need a place to worship since God is every place anyway. It is more important to know what is in the bible, and do what God expects of us. Knowing that the Catholic church knew about children being molested, and did nothing about it, tells me that they might be playing for the opposing team.