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    Illegal Aliens and Social Security

    What is really important is not that the illegal aliens pay 3.6% of their salaried income on Social Security that they will not get. It is the other 93.6% of the salary that should have gone instead to a citizen or a legal immigrant.
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    Re: A Few Stats from the OtherSide, (Be Prepared!)

    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam
    The estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the Social Security system with a subsidy of about $7 billion a year. (The New York Times)
    That is absurd! The New York Times has gone off the deep end and has lost all credibility. Remember their fake "poll" that said a majority of Americans want a pathway to citizenship?

    Google: new york times plummeting readership

    More Readers Trading Newspapers for Web Sites - New York Times
    The circulation declines of American newspapers continued over the spring and summer, according to figures released Monday.
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    Dinocrat » Blog Archive » The New York Times places itself first ...
    By contrast, the readers and shareholders of the New York Times have been treated .... NY Time stock is plummeting because people are sick of this crap. ...
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    Blogumentary [chuck olsen]: NEW YORK TIMES vs. JOURNALISM 2.0
    Listed below are links to weblogs that reference NEW YORK TIMES vs. ... But print readership and subscriptions are plummeting, and that trend is not going ...
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    *michael parekh on IT*: ON THE NEW YORK TIMES' TIMESSELECT HELL
    Yes, this is the umpteenth blog post criticizing the New York Times' recent .... about this state of affairs also...their readership has likely plummeted, ...
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    But they don't all pay SS - very few do. The ones I know work on a contractual basis - not taxes withheld. It is the responsibility of the worker to file and pay the taxes. Now we know they are doing this, don't we?

    I just don't believe it - just don't.
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    This is all one big lie. Who was authorized to write this?

    If they paid SSI, for all these years, why is the system so broke?

    NONE of them have Insurance. Do you think employers that don't get valid ID, pay taxes on these employees are going to buy them Insurance? They are hired because they don't ask for or expect insurance.

    In every city where Illegal Immigrants reside, you could camp out at the ER at Hospitals, and see just how many of them use the ER, give a valid ID, and present an Insurance Card. Someone needs to start filming this stuff on hidden camera.


    I really resent being lied to.


    What about the thousands of women who move here right before their baby is due, and have never paid a dime into any System of the USA. Their baby cost about $10,000-$16,000 if there are not problems. Many of them have poor prenatal care (none) and cost a whole lot more. Then she and the kid get aftercare, that they don't pay for. Who pays for the care of all of these births, that had no one putting money in our systems to cover them? These cases, even if the woman ever worked, or had a husband that worked and paid taxes, would be in the negative for life. These people never pay property taxes which is how education, hospitals, prisons, law enforcement, etc. are all funded. Come on, when do they pay? When have illegals input caught up with what they cost? They don't cost the employers.

    Most of these women have more than one child. They do not believe in birth control (old school Catholics).
    I'm "Dot" and I am LEGAL!

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    This is who wrote it.
    Aren't you the least bit curious why it hasn't been found in the Main Stream??
    Because there's no truth to it. It's all BS!!!!!!!!!!!
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    The estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the Social Security system with a subsidy of about $7 billion a year.

    That averages out to $16,666 a year in income. If half of 'them' are working off the books those on the books are making over $33.000 a year. A wage I am sure many Americans would be willing to work for. A wage better than a rookie NYC cop!
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    Beside's,,,,,,any SSN they have is phoney. so figure that!
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    SUMMARY and COST OF COLLATERAL DAMAGE of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
    http://www.darksideofillegalimmigration.com/page17.html

    This report has attempted to highlight The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration that the MSM is not reporting on and bring to light the massive amount of collateral damage in terms of Americans that are being ripped off, infected, molested, killed, and murdered as a result of our out of control immigration policies.

    This section contains a summary of the collateral damage highlighted in this report along with the estimated annual costs, when known.

    Before we do that, however, let us digress for a moment in the way of remembrance.

    On September 11, 2001, a handful of illegal alien terrorists with a plan and the will to carry out that plan, killed 2,752 Americans. The Center for Contemporary Conflict notes in Economic Costs to the United States Stemming From the 9/11 Attacks:

    “The September 11 attacks inflicted casualties and material damages on a far greater scale than any other terrorist aggression in recent history. Lower Manhattan lost approximately 30 percent of its office space and a number of businesses ceased to exist. Close to 200,000 jobs were destroyed or relocated out of New York City, at least temporarily.

    The destruction of physical assets was estimated in the national accounts to amount to $14 billion for private businesses, $1.5 billion for state and local government enterprises and $0.7 billion for federal enterprises. Rescue, cleanup and related costs have been estimated to amount to at least $11 billion for a total direct cost of $27.2 billion.â€

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