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    Food Stamps in 4 Hours

    Food-Stamp Program Finally Speaks Their Language
    KMEX helps an effort to get Latino immigrants to apply for food stamps. An O.C. group takes it a step further and offers a class on how to do it.
    By Jennifer Delson, Times Staff Writer
    October 13, 2006


    Though it goes against the conventional wisdom of anti-illegal immigration supporters, those who enroll the poor in the federal food stamp program say they've struggled for years to get immigrant Latino families signed up.

    Now a Spanish-language news report and television ad campaign have spurred thousands of immigrants in Orange County over the last several weeks to contact a nonprofit organization that offers a Spanish-language class called "Food Stamps in Four Hours."

    The stream of immigrants contrasts sharply with what was going on just a few months ago when only a handful of immigrants would attend the free course.

    The news report and ads were heard throughout Southern California, but those who responded in Orange County were directed to a nonprofit organization. Most other callers to the toll-free number were directed to county offices.

    The Orange County strategy has been lauded throughout the state as a way to reach immigrants who are reluctant to get help from the government.

    "They won't come on their own," said Jerry Sanders, food bank manager of the nonprofit Community Action Partnership of Orange County in Garden Grove. "They come from countries where they think the government isn't to be trusted. They figure there's a catch to free food."

    Advocates say immigrants, if here illegally, are also worried about being deported if they apply for food stamps. Or they fear jeopardizing a pending application for residency or citizenship. Illegal immigrants can apply on behalf of their minor children here legally.

    Other immigrants say they were simply embarrassed.

    "The Mexican man is macho. He doesn't want to come to this country and beg," said Alfonso Chavez, the Community Action Partnership's outreach coordinator. "I tell them this is a program that will help the children. The kids are American-born, and they have a right to this program."
    A Los Angeles County Department of Social Services task force is looking at ways to find eligible families to enroll. County workers have signed up families at food banks with only minor success.

    "We recognize that people in Orange County are ahead of us," said task force member Bruce Rankin, the executive director of the Westside Food Bank in Los Angeles. "The rest of us in the state are looking at Orange County for ideas." Low participation, he said, "is a dilemma in the state."

    The federal government estimates 60% of eligible households participate in the food stamp program nationally. In California, the participation rate drops sharply. A study of 2003 participation rates by Mathematica Policy Research, a nonpartisan research group, showed that 34% of California's working poor participated in the program that year, the third lowest percentage among the 50 states.

    There are 30,000 households in Orange County that receive food stamps, federal officials said.

    Sanders of the Community Action Partnership estimates more than three times that amount could qualify.

    Aliso Viejo resident Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minuteman Project, which fights illegal immigration, said the Orange County program encouraged illegal immigration.

    These immigrants and their children "should only be given life-saving medical care," Gilchrist said.

    "If we encourage illegal alien families to come forward and exploit the … system, aren't we encouraging more illegal immigration? We have to cut these benefits off."

    In 2004, Department of Agriculture Food and Nutrition Service and the Mexican Embassy agreed to jointly disseminate brochures and create the public service announcements.

    The agreement led Mexican Consul Luis Miguel Ortiz Haro to tout the food stamp program on Univision's KMEX Channel 34 six weeks ago. The newscast included the partnership's phone number. More than 1,200 people called the partnership in the following days, Sanders said.

    Then, two weeks ago, the Department of Agriculture began to air a monthlong series of ads on Spanish-language television in Southern California and three other markets in the U.S.
    When Sanders first saw the Spanish-language public service announcements, he asked the government if Orange County callers could be routed to his office. That led to hundreds more inquiries. Callers, which number about 2,000 calls a day nationwide, are only routed to nonprofit organizations in seven California counties. The others are directed to government offices.

    In Orange County, several of those attending a recent "Food Stamps in Four Hours" class said they were convinced it was legitimate when they saw Ortiz Haro on television.


    "This program is not welfare. It won't affect your immigration status," Ortiz Haro said on television.

    "The program is a right, and if we don't use it, it's a privilege that will pass you by."

    About 20 people attended a "Food Stamps in Four Hours" class on a recent weekday at the El Modena Community Center in Orange.

    Many of them came by a bus provided by Community Action Partnership, which picked up applicants at three locations.

    They were given help filling out a 10-page application, as well as nutrition bars and a bag of free food. Then they were taken by bus to a government office in Anaheim to get fingerprinted.

    Sylvia Cruz, who has three U.S.-born children, came to the class after hearing about food stamps on a Spanish-language news report. She then worked to convince her husband, a construction worker who earns $1,800 monthly and pays $1,200 in rent.
    "I think it was comforting for him to know the consul was talking about this program," Cruz said.

    "It made him think this won't get us into trouble."

    Claudia Ortega, 31, said she called the nonprofit immediately after the newscast. Her husband didn't need much convincing. The Mexican immigrant couple with three U.S.-born children struggle with a monthly income of $2,200 and $1,150 monthly rent, she said.

    "We see how hard it is to get by here, even with two jobs," Ortega said.

    "We'll take the help for a little while. It's a program and it's here for us to use."

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    Send them back and let us help our own poor. We have people that are still not in their homes from last years hurricanes, many still have blue tarps over their roofs and don't have the money to fix it, and other victims of misfortune. I would rather see them get halp than a bunch of illegals who don't respect our laws, learn our language and reproduce like cockroaches.
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    The kids are American-born, and they have a right to this program."
    Just another example why we must challenge the whole anchor baby thing.

    Aliso Viejo resident Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minuteman Project, which fights illegal immigration, said the Orange County program encouraged illegal immigration.

    These immigrants and their children "should only be given life-saving medical care," Gilchrist said.

    "If we encourage illegal alien families to come forward and exploit the … system, aren't we encouraging more illegal immigration? We have to cut these benefits off."
    Voice of reason.

    In 2004, Department of Agriculture Food and Nutrition Service and the Mexican Embassy agreed to jointly disseminate brochures and create the public service announcements.

    The agreement led Mexican Consul Luis Miguel Ortiz Haro to tout the food stamp program on Univision's KMEX Channel 34 six weeks ago. The newscast included the partnership's phone number. More than 1,200 people called the partnership in the following days, Sanders said.
    As if our own government pissing away our tax dollars isn't bad enough.

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    "The Mexican man is macho. He doesn't want to come to this country and beg," said Alfonso Chavez, the Community Action Partnership's outreach coordinator.
    I see a runnun' dog fleeing from his country rather than stand. Easier to steal from someone else, I guess.
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    Anchor babies do not deserve food stamps

    Many anchor babies are born just so the family can stay in the country. US taxpayers should not be paying anything that encourages illegals to come to or stay in America. While I don't like seeing children hungry or sick, these parents are using their children as a front not because they love them.

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    I'm sorry but the price of food has never been lower than now so we should cut off the food stamp program for 'all' (except the elderly on fixed incomes.
    They worked their whole life for a country that is giving itself away)
    People should be supported by their own families/churches not the taxpayers.

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    "The program is a right, and if we don't use it, it's a privilege that will pass you by."
    It's a RIGHT? A RIGHT?? A PRIVILEGE????

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    Re: Food Stamps in 4 Hours

    "They won't come on their own," said Jerry Sanders, food bank manager of the nonprofit Community Action Partnership of Orange County in Garden Grove. "They come from countries where they think the government isn't to be trusted. They figure there's a catch to free food."
    But it is not "free food." It is food paid for by the tax payers. Why do the people of California allow this to go on?

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    Re: Food Stamps in 4 Hours

    Quote Originally Posted by noyoucannot
    But it is not "free food." It is food paid for by the tax payers. Why do the people of California allow this to go on?
    Because beginning about forty years ago, we were invaded by liberal know-nothing do-gooders from the east who took over the state and city governments. Since then, California has been in a death spiral.

    You ought to see the kinds of bills that get passed each year by our legislature. Fortunately, Arnold vetoes most of them, but it's a close call each year.
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    CountFloyd, it must be unbelievably frustrating to you all. Where I live this kind of thinking is in the extreme minority. We have virtually no illegal problem here, yet our city passed an anti-illegal ordinance "just in case"!! Some of the bleeding hearts, like the Catholic church, are screaming about it now, but we don't pay attention to them. My heart really goes out to people in these crazy areas. I don't know how they stand it.

    I understand what you are saying about the liberals having control of the city and state government. But, if the majority of Californians are against these loony policies, such as this foodstamp debacle, can't they fight against it? Or do the majority of Californians agree with their representatives in City and State government?

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