Thread: Foundations of a Posse Comitatus loophole for Politicos

Webpage (see link below)

I must admit that I have an extremely low tolerance for much of the tinfoil hat crowd and their anti-militaristic fantasies. But after taking a look at this page I spotted a couple of things that I found to be rather irritating (and btw still not conspiracy level quality). One was the plural designation of 'Homelands' and the other was that ALL of Northcoms Generals Bios were included in Spanish...If you were ever in the military, most especially the Army or Air Force, then you know the extreme nature of some of the political correctness that has infiltrated our legions. I have even heard of one commander being ordered to remove a Texas flag from his desk because an airman complained that the flag was racist and represented the confederacy. The point being that it is most likely not the doing of the Generals, but why is our information being presented in Spanish? And even once in French?

Here is the link:
http://www.northcom.mil/leaders_html/index.html]http://www.northcom.mil/leaders_html/index.html

But there is a greater point in posting about Northcom. Although it makes sense that it exists as a connecting point for forces/asset mobilization, interagency comunication and defense structure management, NORAD etc. there seems to be a substantial potential for misuse of the command by political figures. There are some undertones of US, Canadian and Mexican coop evident on thier site, but in general things like Vision2020 seem to be positive (mainly because it doesn't involve Mexico):
http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/072307.html]http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/072307.html

I have heard of this exercise:
http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/VS-08_fact_sheet.pdf

being mis-represented as some sort of government plan to practice marital law.

Why bring this up? I think it warrants a discussion about weaving military assets into corrupt and political institutions like Homeland Security. Disaster relief and preparedness are definitely topics which require a greater interagency communication... But, if one were to look at governmental failures in disaster response they actually don't point to a need for this level of integration. Katrina stands out as simple mismanagement. A cretin Gov and an imbicillic Mayor stuttered and hesitated and did nothing while their people suffered. Federal assets were on stand-by but not deployed in fear of power and boundry related issues...It should also be said that a good leader would have powered thru this and did what needed to be done...In any event, this disaster wasn't a result of miscommunication, it was inferioir leadership. Merging entities won't solve any of these problems, it will simply make ready a massive arsenal of tools for political misuse. Do we really want bureaucrats stumbling around crystal mountain? People with cosmopolitan views and global corp ties shoving big government cheese into the power generators at NORAD?! Imagine what it would take to "sanitize" (lock and seal actually) the mountain after Michael Chertoff touches it?!

chosen wrote

I have heard of this exercise:
http://www.northcom.mil/News/2007/VS-08_fact_sheet.pdf
being mis-represented as some sort of government plan to practice marital law.

There's a link there to get to a website called BlackListed News.com Everything in this artical makes perfect sense, or better put, helps one understand how peices will fit together concerning the future, our future. Given the blatent secret and unconstitutional and sometimes outright crimial behavior of our President, I don't put anything past him.

From my link(http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?nam...hlight=#467234}

There is no question that Vigilant Shield 08 is either government preparation for the implementation of martial law or a way for criminal elements within the government to distract emergency responders in order to conduct a false flag terror attack as a pretext to actually implement martial law and engage in foreign war. On September 11th, 2001 there were drills run by NORAD including Vigilant Guardian which served as a way to ensure that there was no adequate military response to the hi-jacked planes. A similar scenario unfolding with Vigilant Shield is not out of the question.

This exercise is clearly a way to prepare government to respond to a national crisis with martial law. This announcement also follows a number of other news stories that indicate the government is becoming more actively prepared for the implementation of martial law.

These stories include the following:

George W. Bush issuing a presidential directive declaring that he is a dictator during the case of a national emergency be it a natural disaster, a terror attack or any number of crises.

KSLA reporting that members of clergy will be used to convince people to submit to government in the case of declare martial law. See the video below.

In addition to the announcement of Vigilant Shield 08, USNORTHCOM also announced that they have been using the lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina to better respond to crises. The response to Hurricane Katrina was essentially used as a test laboratory to implement martial law in a city. People were forced to relocate against their will and authorities stole people’s firearms in the name of safety despite these actions being entirely unconstitutional.

Chosen, with the President's vindictive push for so-called 'immigration reform', his parlaying with Mexico, ignoring the will of the American people and now this pot-pouri of military and federal agency intergration all coupled with what seemingly appears to be an annexation of the United States, Canada and Mexico, I don't see how this VS-08 is not part of the bigger picture in the grand scheme of things to implement a North Amercian Union. If and when this is done, I believe there will be a revolt in this country and our government is preparing for that. I am very disturbed over the fact that our President has called the Constitution 'just a g----mn piece of paper' and how he has given himself special powers.

I just wanted you to have, or at least know about this artical. I will admit to donning the tin foil hat at times (mine seems to sprout antenni on occassion, but Ray Walston of 'My Favorite Martian' has me beat!), but only because of the rapid incline of the stealth and seemingly deviant behavior of our federal government. This is only natural for any odinary Joe, given his deep and relentless love for his country. I will pm you to notify you of my response to your comment.

Bush reminds me of the Joker on Batman trying to run the world, more power, more power, more money. Now all we need is a Batman to bring him down.

Originally Posted by posylady

Bush reminds me of the Joker on Batman trying to run the world, more power, more power, more money. Now all we need is a Batman to bring him down.

Exactly what we need is a batman or superman or a damn good patriot for the next president( that is if we last as a sovereign nation that long)in 2008. Our hopes for congress aren't looking to good either!



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Now the Canadian military has been made available to US Civil Authorities for use on American soil in "declared emergency" by the head of homeland security.

http://www.northcom.mil/News/2008/021408.html

[quote]...“This document is a unique, bilateral military plan to align our respective national military plans to respond quickly to the other nation's requests for military support of civil authorities,â€