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    TANCREDO, BILBRAY, SESSIONS ENDORSE SAVE ACT

    This just in from NumbersUSA


    DEAR SUPPORTERS OF ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT & SELF-DEPORTATION,

    The SAVE Act by Rep. Heath Shuler (D-N.C.) has gotten another big boost with the co-sponsorship of Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), the top congressional leader of the fight against illegal immigration for the last decade.

    Tancredo is one of a growing number of Republicans who are putting Principle Over Party Partisanship in backing the Enforcement-Only bill that started with a few dozen Democrats.

    Another new co-sponsor is Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) who was thrown by re-districting into a head-to-head election with Rep. Martin Frost (D-Texas) earlier. Sessions defeated Frost, who was one of the House Democrats' top Party leaders, in part because Frost insisted on an Amnesty and Rewards First approach to illegal immigration, while Sessions has been one of our most steadfast allies in pushing illegal aliens to go home.

    Scores of Democrats and Republicans are setting aside partisan bickering on this one issue to try to actually solve a problem that is plaguing much of America.

    The courageous Democrats pushing the SAVE Act are standing up to their pro-amnesty national Party leadership and Presidential candidates.

    The courageous Republicans who are signing onto the SAVE Act are setting aside partisan maneuvering for next year's elections. Here's the equation:

    1. Most of the Democrats who are likely to be in competitive races next year are getting behind this bill. The freshmen Democrats, in particular, realize that if they want to be sophomore Democrats, they need to give their constituents a real solution to illegal immigration.

    2. This bill may make it harder for Republicans to defeat those freshmen Democrats and regain majority of the House.

    3. Why would Republicans help out on a bill like that?

    That question came up in meetings of Republicans this week. The Republicans are well aware that this bill will be politically advantageous back home for every Democrat who signs onto it.

    But in the end, more and more Republicans, like Tancredo, Sessions and Brian Bilbray (the current chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus) are joining the Democrats because they are Putting Principle Ahead of Partisan Politics.

    These Republicans who are serious about actually solving the illegal immigration problem know that nothing is going to get better soon unless they can find a lot of Democrats who are willing to join in the fight.

    Heath Shuler's SAVE Act is the best opportunity in a very long time for that to happen.

    WHAT CAN YOU DO TODAY TO HELP THIS BI-PARTISAN 'SAVE' EFFORT?

    We will provide you with a full list of co-sponsors next week when the SAVE Act is formally introduced.

    If your own U.S. Representative is a co-sponsor, we have placed a Fax Note on your Action Buffet corkboard. That allows you to send a much deserved Thank You fax.

    Please check and make sure you have sent that fax.

    If you have NOT had such a Thank You fax on your corkboard, that means your Representative has not signed up yet.

    You may want to call his/her DC or home District office today and encourage the Democrats to show their Courage and the Republicans to show their Principles.

    You can see all the office phone numbers of your U.S. Representative by going to:
    www.NumbersUSA.com/myMembers

    Isn't it time to set partisanship aside and work to actually begin solving this problem and immediately bringing some relief to overwhelmed communities?

    The SAVE ACT (Secure America with Verification and Enforcement)

    I have updated and added several items from the description I gave you of the bill earlier in the week. Several of the changes respond to concerns and confusions that some of you wrote about through our Help Desk.

    This bill (it will have no bill number until introduced) does a lot of things to protect our borders and to help with interior enforcement. (We'll provide you with a section-by-section analysis as soon as the bill is formally introduced.)

    But the section that I applaud the most has to do with workplace verification. We believe that jobs are the main reason illegal aliens come here. Drying them up would seriously slow the flow of new illegal aliens. And it would start to drive perhaps as many as a million already-settled illegal aliens back home each year.

    The SAVE Act would eventually require every employee in America to go through the E-Verify system. This internet system provides employers with an inexpensive, quick, and accurate way to verify that employees are not illegal aliens. The rules for use are such that no employee or employer suffers if there is a mistake in the system because there is ample time to correct errors on the employee's side and on the government's side.

    Under the SAVE Act:

    * Social Security Administration required to share "no-match" information with Homeland Security. This removes the basis of activist judges who have been trying to stop the Bush Administration's use of "no-match" letters to root out illegal workers whose Social Security numbers don't match other data in the Social Security database.

    * Prohibits employers from deducting wages paid to illegal aliens. The IRS already knows which workers don't have legitimate Social Security numbers but won't share this information. This provision of SAVE allows that information to stay within the IRS but instructs the IRS to not allow any wages paid to these particular employees. The result will be much higher taxes for businesses that have illegal aliens on the payroll. This is a provision championed by Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) who is the ranking Republican on the House subcommittee on immigration.

    * ALL employers (no matter the size of their company) would face fines and possible criminal prosecution if they hire an illegal alien -- from the very beginning. The phase-in of E-Verify (described below) does not change that requirement for ALL businesses.

    * But unlike now, employers would have to start using the E-Verify electronic verification system on their new hires. Because of difficulty in ramping up the present VOLUNTARY system to handle that much work, the mandatory requirements would be phased in.

    * During Year 1, all government agencies, government contractors, plus all businesses with more than 250 employees, would have to run all NEW hires through E-Verify.

    * During Year 2, all businesses with 100 or more employees would have to use E-Verify for new hires.

    * During Year 3, all businesses with more than 20 employees would have to use E-Verify for new hires.

    * During Year 4, all businesses with fewer than 20 employees would be added so that all businesses use E-Verify for new hires.

    * Also during Year 4, ALL businessese would be required to run all their PREVIOUS hires through E-Verify.


    Although in many ways it would be nice to immediately kick all illegal aliens out of their jobs all at once, it will probably be more orderly and create far less backlash and potential for the open-borders types to stop the program if we phase E-Verify in over four years.

    Under phase in, the illegal alien community will feel an immediate squeeze that will start driving more of them to give up and go home, expecially those who lose their job and start looking for another one.

    And each year, the squeeze will become more and more severe. Only three years after passage, every illegal alien in America who is in a job and working for a company that doesn't want to run afoul of the law will be run through the E-Verify and other procedures of the SAVE Act. Virtually all of them will be identified as illegal, and most of them will lose their jobs.

    There aren't enough odd-jobs and off-the-books jobs in the underground economy to soak up even a small fraction of the estimated 7 million illegal workers in the country. Most illegal aliens will no longer find enough work to support them and their dependents, and most of them will eventually give up their lives of illegality and go home -- ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT & SELF-DEPORTATION.

    FIRST-TIME PROVISIONS TO CATCH
    ILLEGAL ALIENS USING IDENTITY THEFT

    All of us inside and outside government who have lauded E-Verify under its different names the last decade have acknowledged that it doesn't identify all illegal aliens.

    It works with the majority of illegal aliens who are making up Social Security numbers and names when they apply for a job.

    But if an illegal alien has paid the money to steal the identity of an American, or a legally present foreign national, E-Verify passes them through.

    The Shuler bill is the first to address this problem and solve it.

    It creates a system of detecting when the same identity is being used to hold down more jobs than are credible. In some cases, the same identity is being used by hundreds of people in hundreds of workplaces. The Shuler bill creates a notification system that roots out this fraud. We'll describe this in more detail in a later alert.

    OTHER ITEMS IN THE BILL

    Here are some other things the SAVE Act would do:

    # Increases Customs and Border Patrol agents by 8,000, utilizes new technology and fencing to secure the border, and expands specialized enforcement programs, such as the “Tunnel Task Forceâ€
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    I'm concerned that illegal activists are not coming out swinging on this one. Why is that?
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    If Tom Tancredo is a co-sponsor I trust this is good for Americans and America.
    We are NOT a nation of immigrants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    I'm concerned that illegal activists are not coming out swinging on this one. Why is that?
    Maybe they don't know about it yet. Maybe they are formulating their arguments. Since all employees, including Americans will have to be checked on this system, its hard to cry racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    I'm concerned that illegal activists are not coming out swinging on this one. Why is that?
    Maybe they don't know about it yet. Maybe they are formulating their arguments. Since all employees, including Americans will have to be checked on this system, its hard to cry racism.
    Maybe they know there is no way in hell this would even pass through committe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    I'm concerned that illegal activists are not coming out swinging on this one. Why is that?
    I want to know this too? Why hasn't LaRaza spoken out against it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknight111
    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    I'm concerned that illegal activists are not coming out swinging on this one. Why is that?
    Maybe they don't know about it yet. Maybe they are formulating their arguments. Since all employees, including Americans will have to be checked on this system, its hard to cry racism.
    Maybe they know there is no way in hell this would even pass through committe.
    With as many Democrats jumping on the bandwagon and Repubs I think it will have no problem.
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    Quite frankly they will, they just don't know which angle to come at it yet.
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    I agree,If Tom Tancredo put his seal of approval on this Bill I am ready to fight for its passage.

    I too had doubts,afraid it would be watered down or passed but not enforced or arrest would stop until 4th year law was in place.

    Beck clarified the arrest question and it sounds like that was a major concern for others too.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    Quote Originally Posted by blacknight111
    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    I'm concerned that illegal activists are not coming out swinging on this one. Why is that?
    Maybe they don't know about it yet. Maybe they are formulating their arguments. Since all employees, including Americans will have to be checked on this system, its hard to cry racism.
    Maybe they know there is no way in hell this would even pass through committe.
    With as many Democrats jumping on the bandwagon and Repubs I think it will have no problem.
    Let's just wait and see how many dems become co sponsors.

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