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    FoxNews’ Megan Kelly skews facts in Trump vs Judge Curiel

    See: Trump Might Have a Point About “Trump Hating” Judge Curiel:

    ”Trump’s campaign advisor, Katrina Pierson said the judge was a member of the LaRaza Lawyers’ Association and Kelly made a point of saying that was wrong. Curiel is, however, a member of the San Diego LaRaza Lawyers’ Association according to his resume posted online, though Megyn Kelly said he’s not.”

    Kelly also took Trump to task and harshly criticized him for daring to say Curiel is Mexican. But Judge Curiel, nominated by Obama for a judgeship, made a point to STRESS his Mexican heritage during his Senate confirmation hearing.

    In any event, what we do know is, Judge Curiel is a member of La Raza Lawyers of California (the Latino Bar Association of California). This organization has been at the forefront defending Obama’s invasion of our borders. On July 2nd, 2014, one of its members, a San Diego attorney Victor Torres, not only said that the thousands of illegals flooding into the United States from Central America “are all Americans too”, but he boldly STATED that they are not illegal aliens.

    Judge Curiel also sat on a board which awarded scholarships to illegal aliens.

    Does the above not show the judge has a bias towards illegals which flies in the face of Trump’s stand on illegal aliens, and as such is fair game to question?

    Finally see: Former attorney general: Trump right to question judge’s fairness

    ”Gonzales on Saturday said Trump has reason beyond just race to doubt Curiel, who is American, will treat him fairly.

    “As someone whose own ancestors came to the United States from Mexico, I know ethnicity alone cannot pose a conflict of interests. But there may be other factors to consider in determining whether Trump’s concerns about getting an impartial trial are reasonable.”


    The bottom line is, Megan Kelly, as well as some other personalities at FoxNews, have not only blown out of proportion Trumps comments about Judge Cuiel’s ethnicity, but they dismiss legitimate concern about the judge’s biases which may very well play into his actions as a judge.

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    Does the above not show the judge has a bias towards illegals which flies in the face of Trump’s stand on illegal aliens, and as such is fair game to question?
    Absolutely!! And it also shows that any bad name anyone wants to call Megyn Kelly is surely warranted. She's a LIAR, an OPPORTUNIST, a BACK-STABBING TRAITOR, and otherwise known as ALL-ROUND POND SCUM!

    Trump should have never done her show. But, you can bet he'll never do another one.

    Thank you JWK for a great job in reporting on this MEDIA BIAS AGAINST TRUMP by DISHONEST MEGYN KELLY.

    And she's a "lawyer". A former "prosecutor" from somewhere. What a waste of a law degree!

    GRRRRR!!!!
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    Just on our local Fox channel 5:00 News, they did a story about Trump saying he won't get a fair trial, because the judge is Mexican. The political editor said Trump was taking a lot of heat for his comment. Then they had clips of Mitch McConnell and Newt Gingrich criticizing Trump for his comments. They never mentioned the judges association with San Diego La Raza Lawyers’ Association.
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    Yeah, Trump is defiant on this. Pierson, his spokeswoman, just made it absolutely clear on CNN that Trump is not backing down, he is not apologizing, that he believes he's right, and the Judge is biased against Trump because of Trump's policy on illegal immigration, and I'm sure Trump is right on that. The decisions this Judge has made so far in this case have been totally baffling, so he's not only biased, he's on the take in my opinion, probably with the cartels behind illegal immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott-in-FL View Post
    Just on our Fox News channel, they did a story about Trump saying he won't get a fair trial, because the judge is Mexican. The political editor said Trump was taking a lot of heat for his comment. Then they had clips of Mitch McConnell and Newt Gingrich criticizing Trump for his comments. They never mentioned the judges association with San Diego La Raza Lawyers’ Association.
    And that is the subtle way that many of FoxNews personalities engage in propaganda. They seek out guests who they know will present a particular view. Mitch McConnell and Newt Gingrich have always been the talking sock puppets for our global governance crowd. Are we to forget that Gingrich handed the NAFTA, one of the worst trade deals ever, to Clinton on a silver platter?

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    So true and lest we forget. Thanks for reminding us about NAFTA and NEWT. Trump needs to keep his distance from him. I think that became clear today when Newt blew his mouth off about Trump's statement on Curiel. Newt was completely off base. Trump is absolutely right to question bias of this judge based on his pro-Mexican and pro-"country of our parents" statements. I mean this judge said on the issue of an arrest triggered by DEA in Mexico of a drug cartel leader, Felix, "what it comes down to is, this is the country of our parents" referring to Mexico!

    And this judge or his surrogates are claiming he was responsible for the arrest of Felix when he wasn't, DEA tracked his sister and through that information led Mexican authorities to him who made the arrest in Pueblo, Mexico, and had nothing to do with Curiel. Furthermore, the media is touting that Curiel prosecuted Felix, he did not. The US prosecuted Felix in 2011, and Curiel had been out of the US Attorney's office for 5 years and didn't have anything to do with prosecuting Curiel.

    Bill O'Reilly tonight said "I've checked him out and he's a fair guy". Checked what out? You didn't even check out the fact that he had nothing to do with the arrest OR prosecution of Felix, the leader of the Tijuana Cartel, which when diminished allowed the Sinaloa Cartel to expand and take over the territory becoming even bigger, stronger and richer than any other cartel.

    Our media is just stupid, incompetent, loose with the facts, overwhelmed in bias and self-importance.

    You should listen to that Katy Tur who is no longer allowed to cover Trump with press access due to her bias, she'll go on and on and on and on as if she's reporting, when she has no report, because she has no access to the Trump campaign or events for information. So she just manufacturers words that rumble on and on like a crazy woman, making it all up as she goes. I can't believe MSNBC allows this and then after one of her empty rambles, someone tells her "she's awesome".

    Oh my God, it's just sickening.
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    This is all about tripping up Trump and he took the bait. It happened with Chris Matthews regarding abortion and it is happening now. It is all about taking him off message and embroiling him in controversy.

    This is small change compared to the US economy and we need to move on. Refer all questions regarding this matter in the future to his attorney. Have your attorneys file for a motion to recuse judge.

    Grounds for Recusal Motions to recuse or disqualify judges and other adjudicators have been made for all sorts of reasons. Most commonly such motions are predicated upon a claim that the judge is biased in favor of one party, or against another, or that a reasonable objective observer would think he might be. But such motions are also made on many other grounds, including the challenged judge’s:

    ● Interest in the subject matter, or relationship with someone who is interested in it

    ● Background or experience, such as the judge’s prior work as a lawyer

    ● Personal knowledge about the parties or the facts of the case

    ● Ex parte communications with lawyers or non-lawyers

    ● Rulings, comments or conduct

    In some jurisdictions the ability of a judge to recuse himself is constrained by the so-called “duty to sit doctrine”. According to this doctrine, unless a judge is required by law to disqualify himself he cannot simply choose to recuse himself, but must remain on the case.

    In most American jurisdictions a judge may only be disqualified “for cause.” In other words, a person who would like a new judge to preside over her case is required to show either that a basis for disqualification exists that is expressly enumerated in A disqualification statute; or that, for some other reason, a reasonable person would question the judge’s ability to be impartial in the case. But many (mostly western and mid-western) jurisdictions have laws on the books which authorize parties to seek disqualification on a “peremptory” basis, without making any showing of cause. This is referred to as “peremptory disqualification,” or making a “peremptory challenge” . In such jurisdictions, as long as the challenge is timely filed, and the prescribed procedure is complied with, the judge has no discretion to determine whether he should recuse himself; rather, he is disqualified automatically.
    http://www.judicialrecusal.com/grounds-for-recusal/

    Let the lawyers handle it and the remaining questions asked by the press. He has to watch out for these situations because they are there to distract him from talking about Hillary period. The law firm handling the class action suit has made enormous contributions to the Clintons since 2009.



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    It is also about exposing the role of these "La Raza" groups in generating officials who would likely not otherwise be officials who then in turn owe a debt to the cause for their support which impacts judgment, actions, rulings, policies and so forth.

    Why is there an Hispanic Bar Association? What is that anyway?
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    Megan Kelly lied again about Trump's statements referencing Judge Curiel

    This evening while interviewing Mike Huckabee, Megan Kelly falsely asserted that Trump said Judge Curiel cannot be fair because of his Mexican heritage. Of course, she did not provide any quote to substantiate her lying assertion.

    What Trump actually said is "The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great, I think that is fine…"

    The fact is, Judge Curiel, who boasted about his Mexican heritage during his Senate confirmation hearings, and is a member of an activist lawyers group whose mission is to defend Mexican illegal aliens and work to keep them in America, while Donald Trump has spoken out against the invasion of our borders by Mexicans and those from Central America, establishes a bias for Mexicans who have invaded our borders by the judge and puts the judge at odds with Trump's position. This of course gives reasonable cause that the judge's feelings toward Mexicans who have invaded our borders may affect his decisions in Trump's case. To ignore this factor, as Megan Kelly does with absolutely impunity, is an indication of her own unwillingness to accept a reasonable belief.

    It is absolutely despicable why the FoxNews leadership allows Megan Kelly to get away with this crap!

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    After hearing Kelly gush about the "first woman nominee" I personally suspect that she is a Hillary supporter.
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