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    Germans Could Have Their Children Snatched For Anti-Migrant Facebook Posts

    Looks like the Germans haven't changed much since the days of Hitler. The Nazis took the children away from parents and raised them the way they wanted them to be - good little puppets of the state.
    Germans Could Have Their Children Snatched For Anti-Migrant Facebook Posts

    Opposing influx of “refugees” puts people at risk of being fired

    Paul Joseph Watson
    September 29, 2015

    Germans who make racist anti-migrant posts could have their children snatched by the state and be fired from their jobs, according to the German Lawyers’ Association.

    In an article entitled Racism and parenting: Threatening loss of custody?, lawyer Eva Becker, Chair of the Working Group on Family Law in the German Bar Association, outlines the conditions under which “xenophobic” Facebook posts could lead to parents being targeted.

    Although Becker asserts that merely opposing the settlement of migrants in Germany would not lead to parental rights being terminated, such views could easily lead to someone being fired from their job.

    Expressing a desire for violence against the migrants would constitute evidence enough for a family court to remove children from the home, according to Becker.

    While this appears to be a high bar, idle threats of violence are made by countless people on the Internet every day, with the vast majority going completely unpunished.

    Given the apparent cover-up of rapes being committed by “migrants” in Germany, the notion of an irate father making violent comments in a ‘heat of the moment’ Facebook rant is entirely plausible. Although such comments are obviously abhorrent, should they really lead to children being taken away from their parents by the state?

    Becker suggests that racist and xenophobic statements made in the presence of a child that constitute a “negative influence” would also be investigated by the authorities.

    Becker advises ex-partners to collect screenshots of Facebook comments and other Internet activity if they are considering bringing a case before the family court.

    As we highlighted yesterday, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg was caught on a hot mic discussing plans with German Chancellor Angela Merkel to censor anti-migrant Facebook posts in Germany.

    “Are you working on this?” Merkel asked. “Yeah,” Zuckerberg responded before their microphone was cut.

    Those found guilty of “refugee baiting” remarks will be hit with fines up to €5000 euros or 120 days in jail. The program will be overseen by Network Against Nazis (Netz gegen Nazis), a group led by left-wing activist Anetta Kahane.

    As we previously reported, Kahane worked as a Stasi informant under the codename “Victoria” from 1974-1982. The Stasi’s role was to spy on the population of East Germany and to use its vast network of informants to hunt down political dissidents.

    Translated version - GERMANY has a lot of experience with putting children in camps to raise them way that they want them.

    Racism and parenting: Threatening loss of custody?

    In all matters relating to custody and access is only one at the center: the child's welfare.
    Source: DeMeyer /

    The discussion about reception and accommodation of refugees promotes some pleasant but also shocking pages of Deutsche evident: More and more people speak out "concerned" to openly xenophobic or even demonstrate against refugee homes.This can these people not only cost Facebook and real friendships, but also their jobs. Can it have an impact on the access and custody of their child? That should especially mothers and fathers interested, the joint with a xenophobic active ex-partner educate her child - and worry that the child by him or the wrong values ​​are taught, they fall into the wrong circles, respectively.

    "Children can not properly classify much, they are so much more suggestible than adults," explains lawyer Eva Becker, Chair of the Working Group on Family Law in the German Bar Association (DAV). However, when it therefore go, the access rights to restrict a parent or to withdraw, first count only one thing: the welfare of the child.
    It is one of the child's welfare - and common sense

    This means that the political or religious convictions of a parent only has an effect on rights of the child when it is jeopardized. If one parent has only a controversial opinion, is not enough that to deprive him of the right of access or restrict.Responsible for this is the Family Court.

    Where is the line? "What counts is the common sense, common sense," says Eva Becker. A dramatic example: Anyone who says that it would prefer it if in his neighborhood no Syrian refugees would live, so that the child's welfare is not tangent. Does a father or a mother, however before the child that would be best to kill all the refugees, it clearly exceeds thus the critical limit.

    Worse than statements generally weigh actions: There is something else to talk in the presence of the child with friends disparagingly of asylum seekers, as the child take to xenophobic demonstrations. But even here, not one action per se, but the impact on the child. A mother who attends the lectures of a so-called hate preacher, while the child is in daycare, and in time with the child about the content of these sermons says nothing, thereby jeopardizing not the child's welfare.

    Criminality not initially decisive

    When handling legal matters, it is also only once irrespective of whether the parent is liable to prosecution with his statements or actions. This also applies to outside political commitment. Another example: One of the parents has been active in the drug scene as a dealer and therefore was attacked and beaten on several occasions.He would probably get no visitation rights with the child - but not (only) because of criminal activities, but also because a renewed attack is likely and thus the child is in danger.

    Even apolitical, harmful influence can cost visitation rights

    Negative influence of the child, which can lead to the deprivation of rights, may not always be politically. So it'll be before that grandparents trying to incite the child against the ex-son-or ex-daughter. You may have been always against the parents' relationship and are now trying the discharge over the child. In such a case, which can deal with the grandparents will be banned.

    Accompanied or reduced handling possible

    What opportunities have mothers and fathers now, to protect the child from the negative influence of the other parent or other relatives? Is the child's welfare at risk, the right of access is often initially limited. A accompanied handling is possible. Then, for example, is a teacher present at the meeting who can intervene if necessary. It is also possible to prohibit certain acts, manifestations or meetings in the presence of the child.

    Loss of custody only ultimate consequence

    The affected parent Displays unreasonable or he does not change his behavior, give him or her the handling can be completely denied. So far, only talk of the rights of access - it is suspected that a parent influences the child in the wrong direction, this is first restricted. The Custody, which is mainly about decisions about the child is deprived of one parent only in the final analysis. Suspected to be occupied

    The question remains: Suppose you suspected that the ex-partner the child conveys values ​​that can damage it - how could that prove? Lawyer Becker admits: "In oral statements word against statement. The affected parent can deny everything afterwards. "The statements of children could of course be considered. However, I'm on the age and maturity of the child.

    "As a rule, the court must, however, not solely rely on the information from children. Often is also known from other sources that he who moves in circles critical or more often, for example, expresses xenophobic ", informed the family law expert from Berlin. Be so, are also given easy evidence and witnesses.

    Racism on the Internet? Collect screenshots and printouts

    The Internet in general and social networks in particular, the possibility to provide excellent services. Who is concerned about the attitude of an ex-partner, could be found confirmed in his comments, what he suspected. Attorney Becker advises to make the relevant pages of screenshots or print the pages. If it came to the process, such evidence may be helpful.

    Youth welfare office does not always turn on offer

    Many wonder also when the youth welfare office must inform. "That one must not" informed Eva Becker. "Sometimes it's even better not to do that." If you'd had earlier conflicts with an employee of the Youth Welfare Office, it was unhelpful to or contact with his worries to him or her.

    If you suspect the first step should be to reach agreement with the other parent in a two-person conversation to establish a basic consensus of values ​​to be conveyed.

    When should you turn on a lawyer?

    If you suspect that your ex-partner their child may face harmful influences, and a private conversation leads to no solution, you should appoint a lawyer. A lawyer or a lawyer can tell you how to behave in a particular case and what documents you need for it. A family law expert can also decide whether it makes sense to turn to the Youth Welfare Office or not. Because: While youth welfare offices for working families, struggling lawyers for the parents. Here you find a lawyer or a family law attorney in your area.<acronym title="JavaScript"><acronym title="JavaScript"><acronym title="JavaScript"><acronym title="JavaScript"><acronym title="JavaScript"><acronym title="JavaScript">js</acronym></acronym></acronym></acronym></acronym></acronym>=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A//

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    Wow. What a dilemma Germany has created for itself, and so unnecessary. JUST SAY NO. It's so simple. I'm optimistic that Russia will restore order rapidly in Syria. Lets hope for that so this madness ends and the Syrians can return to Syria where they belong.
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    Repeating history. The Nazis took the children from the homes and put them in camps where they indoctrinated them to be good little Nazis. Is this any different? Now they will be indoctrinated to the will of the state.


    A Hitler Youth poses for a photograph in the Rhineland city of Bruehl, 1934. In 1939, membership in Nazi youth groups became mandatory for all boys and girls between the ages of ten and eighteen.
    — Bildarchiv Preussischer Kulturbesitz

    Shaping the Future: Indoctrinating Youth
    “These boys and girls enter our organizations [at] ten years of age, and often for the first time get a little fresh air; after four years of the Young Folk they go on to the Hitler Youth, where we have them for another four years . . . And even if they are still not complete National Socialists, they go to Labor Service and are smoothed out there for another six, seven months . . . And whatever class consciousness or social status might still be left . . . the Wehrmacht [German armed forces] will take care of that.”
    Adolf Hitler (193

    From the 1920s onwards, the Nazi Party targeted German youth as a special audience for its propaganda messages. These messages emphasized that the Party was a movement of youth: dynamic, resilient, forward-looking, and hopeful. Millions of German young people were won over to Nazism in the classroom and through extracurricular activities. In January 1933, the Hitler Youth had only 50,000 members, but by the end of the year this figure had increased to more than 2 million. By 1936 membership in the Hitler Youth increased to 5.4 million before it became mandatory in 1939. The German authorities then prohibited or dissolved competing youth organizations.
    Education in the Nazi State
    Education in the Third Reich served to indoctrinate students with the National Socialist world view. Nazi scholars and educators glorified Nordic and other “Aryan” races, while denigrating Jews and other so-called inferior peoples as parasitic “bastard races” incapable of creating culture or civilization. After 1933, the Nazi regime purged the public school system of teachers deemed to be Jews or to be “politically unreliable.” Most educators, however, remained in their posts and joined the National Socialist Teachers League. 97% of all public school teachers, some 300,000 persons, had joined the League by 1936. In fact, teachers joined the Nazi Party in greater numbers than any other profession.
    In the classroom and in the Hitler Youth, instruction aimed to produce race-conscious, obedient, self-sacrificing Germans who would be willing to die for Führer and Fatherland. Devotion to Adolf Hitler was a key component of Hitler Youth training. German young people celebrated his birthday (April 20)-a national holiday-for membership inductions. German adolescents swore allegiance to Hitler and pledged to serve the nation and its leader as future soldiers.
    Schools played an important role in spreading Nazi ideas to German youth. While censors removed some books from the classroom, German educators introduced new textbooks that taught students love for Hitler, obedience to state authority, militarism, racism, and antisemitism.
    From their first days in school, German children were imbued with the cult of Adolf Hitler. His portrait was a standard fixture in classrooms. Textbooks frequently described the thrill of a child seeing the German leader for the first time.
    Board games and toys for children served as another way to spread racial and political propaganda to German youth. Toys were also used as propaganda vehicles to indoctrinate children into militarism.
    Youth Organizations
    The Hitler Youth and the League of German Girls were the primary tools that the Nazis used to shape the beliefs, thinking and actions of German youth. Youth leaders used tightly controlled group activities and staged propaganda events such as mass rallies full of ritual and spectacle to create the illusion of one national community reaching across class and religious divisions that characterized Germany before 1933.
    Founded in 1926, the original purpose of the Hitler Youth was to train boys to enter the SA (Storm Troopers), a Nazi Party paramilitary formation. After 1933, however, youth
    leaders sought to integrate boys into the Nazi national community and to prepare them for service as soldiers in the armed forces or, later, in the SS.

    In 1936, membership in Nazi youth groups became mandatory for all boys and girls between the ages of ten and seventeen. After-school meetings and weekend camping trips sponsored by the Hitler Youth and the League of German Girls trained children to become faithful to the Nazi Party and the future leaders of the National Socialist state. By September 1939, over 765,000 young people served in leadership roles in Nazi youth organizations which prepared them for such roles in the military and the German occupation bureaucracy.
    The Hitler Youth combined sports and outdoor activities with ideology. Similarly, the League of German Girls emphasized collective athletics, such as rhythmic gymnastics, which German health authorities deemed less strenuous to the female body and better geared to preparing them for motherhood. Their public displays of these values encouraged young men and women to abandon their individuality in favor of the goals of the Aryan collective.
    Military Service
    Upon reaching age eighteen, boys were required to enlist immediately in the armed forces or into the Reich Labor Service, for which their activities in the Hitler Youth had prepared them. Propaganda materials called for ever more fanatic devotion to Nazi ideology, even as the German military suffered from defeat after defeat.
    In the autumn of 1944, as Allied armies crossed the borders into Germany, the Nazi regime conscripted German youths under sixteen to defend the Reich, along side seniors over the age of 60, in the units of the “Volkssturm” (People's Assault).
    After the unconditional surrender of the German armed forces in May 1945, some German boys continued to fight in guerilla groups known as “Werewolves”. During the following year, Allied occupation authorities required young Germans to undergo a “de-Nazification” process and training in democracy designed to counter the effects of twelve years of Nazi propaganda.

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    "Those found guilty of “refugee baiting” remarks will be hit with fines up to €5000 euros or 120 days in jail." And maybe lose your job!

    WHOA! Seems EU is and has been controlling their people in a negative way and surely not coincidental that it favors immigrants instead of the reverse which would show appreciation for their own countrymen - a globalist movement that apparently has been bought and sold in EU and trying for that here in the USA by replacing our countrymen with illegal invaders and excessive legal immigration.

    Now one can understand why EU native people "FEAR" discussing immigration policies - why teachers do not report foreign gangs raping native young school girls; why Swedish girls are told to "cover up" rather than incite the low life male scum welfare immigrants.

    This has been the way there for at least 8 yrs I know of. As a traveler, you would be hard pressed to find a native in EU discuss immigration in public for FEAR of punishment. Would seem the native people are allowing their freedom of speech rights to be made null and void - as well as rights of their person. A local Irish worker here in the USA told me of his brother's child in Scotland that was made to stand in the hallway all day because she gave a Gaelic remark in response to Indian students making fun of her red hair. She didn't speak in English and excluded the foreign born in her comment which resulted in punishment.

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    Prelude to War
    1933 - 1938


    Mandatory Participation

    On December 1st, 1936, Hitler decreed "The Law concerning the Hitler Youth" which mandated that all young Germans (excluding Jews) would "be educated physically, intellectually and morally in the spirit of National Socialism" through the Hitler Youth from the age of ten onward. This law also effectively ended the Catholic Youth Organization which had managed to hold out for three years amid constant Nazi harassment.

    Parents who prevented their children from joining the Hitler Youth were subject to heavy prison sentences. Membership thus grew to nearly six million. As a result, the organization bloated into a giant bureaucracy in Berlin. It began to acquire the dreariness of a big governmental institution in marked contrast to the dynamic organization it had been in the 1920s and early '30s when members risked their lives daily to bring Hitler to power.

    The compulsory nature of weekly HJ meetings for everyone also led to a gradual decline in morale and discipline. To add more excitement, a new phase began for the Hitler Youth with increased emphasis on paramilitary training in direct association with theWehrmacht (Army), Luftwaffe (Air Force) and Navy. In 1937, a Hitler Youth rifle school was then established. About 1.5 million boys were trained in rifle shooting and military field exercises over the next few years with over 50,000 boys earning a marksmanship medal that required near perfect shooting at a distance of 50 meters (164 feet).

    Special Hitler Youth paramilitary formations for boys eventually included: the Flieger-HJ in which aviation enthusiasts built gliders, participated in annual glider flying competitions, visited Luftwaffe facilities and went for rides in fighters and bombers; the Motor-HJ for boys 16 and older in which they acquired their driver's license and learned to ride motorcycles; and the Marine-HJ in which they obtained sailing certificates, learned river navigation, and participated in naval exercises aboard German training ships.

    Hitler's Plan

    In 1938, Hitler expanded Germany's borders by absorbing neighboring Austria and the Sudetenland (western portion of Czechoslovakia) with their large populations of ethnic Germans. As a result, Hitler Youth membership quickly swelled to 8.7 million.

    In September, the last peacetime Nuremberg rally took place. It had the theme Grossdeutschland (Greater Germany) and was the largest one ever held, with nearly 700,000 members of various Nazi Party organizations participating during the week-long festival.

    On Saturday, September 10th, over 80,000 Hitler Youths marched into the city stadium and performed military-style parade maneuvers which they had been practicing for an entire year, ending with a grand finale in which they spelled out the name 'Adolf Hitler' in the grandstand. After a tumultuous welcome, Hitler gave a speech in which he spoke candidly about his own youth and painful adolescence and then ended by telling them: "You, my youth, are our nation's most precious guarantee for a great future, and you are destined to be the leaders of a glorious new order under the supremacy of National Socialism. Never forget that one day you will rule the world!"

    In November, Kristallnacht (the Night of Broken Glass) occurred in which Nazi storm troopers, the SS and Hitler Youths attacked Jews throughout the Reich. Police stood by and crowds watched as Jews were beaten while their shops and synagogues had their windows smashed and contents wrecked. Special pleasure was taken in the desecration of sacred religious scrolls. Over 25,000 Jewish men between the ages of 18 and 65 were hauled off to concentration camps.

    Local Hitler Youths participated in the violence voluntarily but had not been officially instructed to do so. Schirach, on hearing of the extent of their participation, called a meeting of all high level group leaders and expressly forbade further participation in such "criminal actions."

    But the violence was just beginning. Germany was on the path toward achieving Hitler's two main goals which he had outlined years earlier in Mein Kampf the forced acquisition of living space to the east of Germany (resulting in World War II) and destruction of 'international Jewry' (resulting in the Holocaust).

    Many Hitler Youths now regarded Hitler as their Führer-god and even recited pseudo-prayers to him such as: "Führer, my Führer, give me by God. Protect and preserve my life for long. You saved Germany in time of need. I thank you for my daily bread. Be with me for a long time, do not leave me, Führer, my Führer, my faith, my light, Hail to my Führer!"

    Hitler, in a somewhat cynical mood in 1938, privately expressed his attitude toward them. "This youth learns nothing but to think German and to act German. When these boys enter our organization at the age of ten, it is often the first time in their lives that they get to breathe and feel fresh air; then four years later they come from the Jungvolk into the Hitler Youth, and we keep them there for another four years, and then we definitely don't put them back into the hands of the originators of our old classes and status barriers; rather we take them straight into the Party or into the Labor Front, the SA, or the SS, the NSKK [motorized corps] and so on. And if they are there for another two years or a year and a half and still haven't become complete National Socialists, then they go into the Labor Service and are polished for another six or seven months, all with a symbol, the German spade. And any class consciousness or pride of status that may be left here and there is taken over by the Wehrmacht for further treatment for two years, and when they come back after two, three, or four years, we take them straight into the SA, SS, and so on again, so that they shall in no case suffer a relapse,and they will never be free again as long as they live."

    By early 1939, about 82 percent (7.3 million) of eligible youths within the Greater Reich belonged to the Hitler Youth, making it the largest youth organization in the world. A new law was issued on March 25, 1939, conscripting any remaining holdouts into the organization amid warnings to parents that their children would be taken from them and placed in orphanages unless they enrolled.

    Soon, the entire organization would be shaken up from top to bottom, drawn into Hitler's new war, with consequences HJ members would never have imagined.

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