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    Yes, these are the organizations who love the rising cost of health care that results from the rising cost to government to pay for it. You can't get it from your customers, so you get it from the government. Health care is run by "charities", 80% of our US hospitals are 501 C 3 "charities". Lot of money being made in our country by the health care industry, not insurance companies, they're all mostly going broke, the money is made by the medical providers, primarily hospitals, 80% of which are "charities".

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    According to the AHA, about 18 percent of U.S. hospitals are private, for-profit hospitals, while 23 percent are owned by state and local governments.

    The rest are private, nonprofit facilities. This means they're exempt from federal income tax—and often other taxes as well.Oct 11, 2013


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    They are not helping the drug addicts they are enabling them with daily Methadone treatments and disability payments, they are not curing their addiction. Yes it is true that some or a lot of them will end up in jail but not all of them. Right now they just go for their treatments each day and nothing changes. This is costing billions of dollars and their is no punishment for them falling into addiction at all or any chance they will cure them. It is a never ending spiral.
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    Admittedly, I don't know much about drugs or drug addicts. I don't have a clue what it is like to be addicted to drugs, but something has to be done.

    I am just wondering why we should continue to pay for rehab for these people. Perhaps a one time rehab and make it a rough one and let them know that's it is a one shot deal.

    Then we could actually begin a 'war on drugs' and do something real about it. Maybe it's time to legalize it and tell people they are in charge of themselves.

    We could start with doing something about the poppy growing in Afghanistan. You know the industry we made safe again?

    Let's get that wall built, but until it's built, let's put National Guard down there with full authority to stop anyone - anyone from entering illegally.

    Then we might, if our government is brave enough, to go after the really big guys who are making fortunes from drugs. Those who never get their hands dirty, just rake in the monies.Those who have the power to hindering any real solutions from being used.

    Go after the banks for money laundering -

    There are a lot of things that can be done - but like illegal immigration - too many are making too much money from it for it to be stopped.

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    I do not want to pay for their treatment. We are saddled paying for enough already in this country.

    If we are forced to pay for their treatment...then cut welfare and food stamps in half.

    Like the Regulations Trump says for every new ONE regulation...then TWO get cut.

    Same needs to happen with any more of these programs!

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY! CUT FOREIGN AID TO ZERO TO PAY FOR THIS STUFF.
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    Deport the drug cartels, stop the border tunnels and much of the "too available" heroin problem will be solved. One can start out with a $3 high starting that dark tunnel to a hundreds $$$ a day habit or death by overdose. It only takes 3 days of use to become addicted. The drug cartels are operating in all cities - if the DEA has a map of known cartels operating, GET RID OF THEM - they are criminal illegals.

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    Burn the poppy fields in Afghanistan - now.

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    To be honest, any healthcare plan put together in this short period of time is probably going to be worse than it's predecessor.

    Since I personally don't think the government should be doing this, I'm not sure what a good plan would entail. It will take more than a couple of months to get the details ironed out, I believe.

    It seems Medicare has restrictions on paying for medical equipment now. This is what I have been told by others, I don't know.

    When I go to estate sales, there is almost always good medical equipment being sold for nothing.

    Why not have a program that medical equipment is 'checked out' and returned when the need is no longer there.

    There could be facilities that could check out, clean and refurbish the equipment and it could be reused.

    When my Mother worked for the poverty program, that's what happened. The government had tons of surplus equipment and it was checked out to people in need and returned.

    Think of the tons of money that would save.

    Of course, if they tried to put that in place, the people who manufacture and sell this stuff would be rushing to their congresspeople, handing out 'goodies' and it wouldn't get done.

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    Medicare still pays, it pays for rentals, which after so long you can choose to buy it with a small additional payment or turn it back in. Then the person passes away and the families sell the stuff at garage sales so they can get rid of the stuff in the person's house and sell it. Medicare never paid for a purchase of most things, they paid a rental for x number of months given the condition and the normal time you would need it, if the doctor writes a new prescription for the equipment then you continue renting it or pay it off and own it. Whether that's viable or not depends on the type of equipment. Medicare is really wonderful, especially if you have a supplemental like my Mom had. She had it through her retirement plan from work. Unbelievable coverage. I was very impressed.
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