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04-16-2007, 03:05 AM #1
This guy needs to get a clue!
This guy needs to get a clue! And how much do you want to bet this "avocado grower" benefited from illegal labor? And I resent this guy's reference to the Minutemen as "militants"!
Mexican laborers vital to our economy
By: Robert H. Dunn - Commentary
I wish to address our Mexican immigration problem. I am a retired avocado grower from Fallbrook. I have lived in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, in the winter months for the last 20 years. I know well the Mexican people and their culture.
Some legal provision must be made for the Mexican worker. As it is now the worker must pay approximately $3,000 to come across the border illegally. Once he is here, he must find work to pay his debt and send money back to his family. If he gets sick or has an accident, he cannot go back to Mexico because of the coyote cost, so he must use our medical facilities. These workers do not want to live here; they only want to work and go home.
These people are constantly harassed by the Minutemen organization and local law at their day labor pickup spots. These militants decide whether these workers are legal or not by the color of their skin. This must be stopped.
We must have migrant workers for our farm industry or all our food will go to import, causing the collapse of our economy. As an avocado grower, I know no one else will pick avocados off a 40-foot ladder and a 15-foot pole. (Few if any others will do the backbreaking heavy work that the migrant laborers do so well.) These workers make an average of $80 a day. When finished work, these people want to go back to Mexico! Let them go back and forth when they are needed.
I have many Mexican friends in Mexico who are hardworking, good people, but for one reason or another they cannot enter the U.S. The cost of a permanent passport can be as much as $5,000. These people would like to bring their families to SeaWorld and Disneyland and shop in our stores for a few days and then return home. It is estimated that these people would add billions of dollars to our economy.
A recent study published by the Public Policy Institute of California concluded that the influx of immigrants during the period 1990-2004 showed that the wages of American workers have risen. (Although the new workers are in tough competition with the more established illegals.) Without nannies, housekeepers and gardeners, we may not be free to conduct business as we do.
Open our borders to our Mexican and Canadian friends. In Europe most of the borders are opened. These people are not terrorists. Spend our money on proper identification of people, not on fences to keep our neighbors out. Enlist the Mexican people to help keep the terrorists out. They can spot them when we cannot.
Much of our Southwest culture is embedded with Mexican culture and history. These are warm, loving people. Give them a break.
-- Robert H. Dunn lives in Fallbrook.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/04 ... _15_07.txt
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04-16-2007, 06:56 AM #2
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well this guy is more missed informed then i thought
Some legal provision must be made for the Mexican worker
These people are constantly harassed by the Minutemen organization
We must have migrant workers for our farm industry
I have many Mexican friends in Mexico who are hardworking, good people, but for one reason or another they cannot enter the U.S. The cost of a permanent passport can be as much as $5,000. These people would like to bring their families to SeaWorld and Disneyland and shop in our stores for a few days and then return home. It is estimated that these people would add billions of dollars to our economy.
America is warm blooded, kind harted, and all around good people,
Give us a break
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04-16-2007, 07:11 AM #3
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I'd say chances are pretty good that Dunn used illegal aliens on his avocado farm.
He's bragging about $80 per day but for how many hours? I just know the big bosses are also providing benefits for their illegal workers as well.
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04-16-2007, 08:13 AM #4
Why didn't Dumm just go to Mexico and grow avocados, hire the local people there and save them the trip. As well as him self as he goes there for vacation during the winter...he could just live there and save on travel expenses, time, etc, and have his cheap labor readily available. That would seem easier to me and save us another sob story.
Where are the savings on produce at the grocery store? I see none. Where is the safety in eating it as well?<div>GOD - FAMILY - COUNTRY</div>
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04-16-2007, 08:15 AM #5
CVANGEL
GET A GRIP PAL.JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT CHEAP LABOR DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD PAY FOR IT.YOU LOVE THEM SO MUCH ,GO TO MEXICO AND PAY FOR ALL THEIR MEDICAL,DENTAL,RETIREMENT PLAN,VACATIONS,AND SCRUB THEIR BACKS FOR THEM IF YOU WANT.
BUT KEEP THEM IN MEXICO.
I DONT EAT AVOCADOS AND I MOW MY OWN LAWN.
ADIOS NOW.
THE MAN
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04-16-2007, 09:11 AM #6
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Re: CVANGEL
Originally Posted by THEMANDo They understand the word ILLEGAL????
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04-17-2007, 11:20 PM #7
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Re: This guy needs to get a clue!
Originally Posted by cvangel
Originally Posted by cvangel
Originally Posted by cvangel
Put down the crack pipe, cvangel...Try burning this one!
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04-17-2007, 11:36 PM #8
Welcome to ALIPAC Stealthy.
I think it is important to point out that your comments are critical of Robert H. Dunn - who wrote this piece and not Cvangel.
Your quoting of Cvangel's post says "Cvvangel wrote" and I wanted to clarify who you were reacting to.
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04-17-2007, 11:44 PM #9
Skip wrote on April 16, 2007 6:23 PM:"LET'S DO A POLL : A poll released this week shows most Californians view illegal immigration as a serious probem but still believe that those who have been in the country for "many years" should be legalized. More than 4 out of 5 people who responded to the survey said that programs should be set up so that long-time illegal immigrants can become citizens, if they "have a job, learned English and paid back taxes." http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/04 ... _10_07.txt "
Skip It wrote on April 16, 2007 7:31 PM:"Why should someone who has broken all the rules be rewarded? You are way off base! Your willingness to give into criminals is criminal. Let's put some Mexicans using the system and renting their houses with multiple families next to you. Grow up Skip. Your liberalism is part of the problem. Do you want to be Mexico with all its corruption? Defend this invasion. Viva la Raza Skip!"
Skip wrote on April 16, 2007 8:24 PM:"LOL that is the first time I have ever been called a Liberal. Please see my earlier post " Skip wrote on April 15, 2007 8:30 PM ". I was trying to be sarcastic."
Skip wrote on April 15, 2007 8:30 PM:"Don't let anyone fool you ,we have to pay for the Illegal Aliens somehow. The recently released Heritage Foundation Report states that "Overall, households headed by persons without a high school diploma (or low-skill households) received an average of $32,138 per household in direct benefits, means-tested benefits, education, and population-based ser*vices in FY 2004. If expenditures for interest and other financial obligations relating to past government activities are added to the count, expenditures rise to $36,989 per household. If the cost of public goods is added, annual total expenditures on benefits and services come to $43,084 per low-skill household." That is at least 3 to 4 times that the Illegals pay in Taxes (if any at all)."
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04-18-2007, 12:02 AM #10
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