Thread: How younger people see illegal immigration

Originally Posted by Reverend

while the only true Americans have been relegated to shameful indian reservations.

Lets not forget reverend, that they are immigrants as well.

Let's not forget they nearly evryone in the U.S. is the product of immigration,

Therefor, everyone in the ENTIRE Americas (North/Central/South) are in-fact based from immigrants.

Every living soul has emigrated from Africa/Europe, even the American Indians.

Welcome, Reverend!! Thank you for joining us.

I hope you are right that over half of the Mexican population does not want to immigrate to the United States! Hopefully there are many elders in Mexico trying to instill the desire and belief that it is better for them to remain in their country, fight the corrupt government, and to be proud of their culture and heritage.

That is a message that I always try to express. Don't let yourself be run out of your country. Every human being deserves to experience the freedom and human rights that we have here in America. Use America as a guide, stand up for yourselves, don't allow those who would like to run you over like a bull dozer do it.

Those of us who are fighting for the enforcement of our immigration laws are a good example of having the will and the determination to see that our rights as citizens of the United States are upheld. I believe people in other countries around the world are being reminded by our efforts that they also have the responsibility and duty to demand that laws which exist to protect their citizens must be enforced and respected. It is fundamental to the well-being of any country. None of us have the right to disrespect the immigration laws of any country.

Thank you Reverend, and welcome aboard!!

I've never heard of a patatoe famine but I hear Dan Quayle has.

Anyway--OMIGOD--I had no idea a potato famine was happening in Mexico. In that case COME ONE COME ALL!!!!

Oh yeah--the Irish came to this country legally, they became literate AND the spoke or learned the language. The population of the country was a fraction of what it is today, so we could absord more immigrants. And last but not least, the Irish, for the most part, weren't peddling crystal meth, cocaine and gang memberships.

So let's do migration legally, learn English, ease up on the anchor babies, gang killings, rape, drug dealing, child marriages, ect and then we can talk. Fair, "reverand?"

I've got a 17 year old and he views the illegal immigration issues as no problem.

Mine did too, until she walked in the door coming home from her first job with her paystub in her hands. She stared like a slack jawed yokel at the paper. The girl was in dis-belief over just how much money had been take out of her first paycheck. She was counting on the hours worked X the pay rate....guess again! For a long time she had bought into the drivel they were teaching her in school about embracing the fact that no one is illegal, that it was all good for America the more the merrier. I went to the stereo and put on Bachmann-Turner Overdrive's "Ain't Seen Nothin Yet", and explained to her that the missing money was just her big hug to the world. After all they needed medical care, education, welfare, food stamps for free and she was expected to pay for it. She stormed off and her attitude did a 180 degree about face, all the lovin and services handed out by the government now had a real price attached!

Originally Posted by BobC

I've never heard of a patatoe famine but I hear Dan Quayle has.

Anyway--OMIGOD--I had no idea a potato famine was happening in Mexico. In that case COME ONE COME ALL!!!!

Oh yeah--the Irish came to this country legally, they became literate AND the spoke or learned the language. The population of the country was a fraction of what it is today, so we could absord more immigrants. And last but not least, the Irish, for the most part, weren't peddling crystal meth, cocaine and gang memberships.

So let's do migration legally, learn English, ease up on the anchor babies, gang killings, rape, drug dealing, child marriages, ect and then we can talk. Fair, "reverand?"

They already did speak English, understood the rule of law, paid taxes, etc (Ireland was a British colony untul 1922). Heck, my great great Grandpa from Germany had to learn English before he even stepped off the boat.

Originally Posted by ChrisF202

understood the rule of law

If I am not mistaken, they created the "Police Force"

Pun here ----> Officer O'Riley

Originally Posted by Reverend

Half of Mexico wanting to Immigrate to the U.S.?! The population of Mexico is 106,202,903. I guarantee that much more han half of the nation does not want to set foot in America. People don't leave their country because they want to. They leave out of sheer necessity. Have you ever heard of the potatoe famine? Whenhundreds of thousands of Irish came to america because they ran out of options in their native land. Let's not forget they nearly evryone in the U.S. is the product of immigration, while the only true Americans have been relegated to shameful indian reservations.

There is a famine in Mexico? I have not heard that news! Yes, the Irish fled a famine 100 years ago and they came LEGALLY to the US. The passed through Ellis Island and they received proper papers and were screened for diseases etc... They also made a big effort to assimilate to American culture.

Furthermore, a majority of the Irish did not believe they had territorial claims within the United States.

Furthermore, we did not have taxpayer supported schools and medical facilities for mass immigration to rip to shreds.

Would you like to return to the conitions Americans lived in 100 years ago Reverend?

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AMEN

while the only true Americans have been relegated to shameful indian reservations.

It's statments like this that push my hot buttons. Because they don't teach real history anymore, they teach a sanitized, purified, politically correct version of what really happened until it no longer resembles actual history. It's like you put 20 people in a line, the first person tells a story to the second person and so on till the 20th person has a completely different story. The way it's told today, settlers came in and rounded up the peace loving native Americans, dragged them out of their wigwams, murdered them at will then dragged the rest off to reservations. Reverend, read the below passage from a real history book. BOTH sides were equally at fault for being BRUTAL to each other, EQUALLY! Mutual.....yes mutual combat is usually less than satisfactory to both combatants, but more often to a greater extent to the losing party. In steps the Indian Casinos, in California there are 35,000 native Americans, California Casinos generate $9 Billion in nearly tax free revenue, is that the shameful part of the reservation? I am not trying to offend native americans nor deminish their experiences during the settler days, however most folks tend to oneside it, the fact remains BOTH sides are equally guilty of murdering women and children. Read below.

In the book The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee, William M. Osborn tallies every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890) and determines that 9156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans, and 7193 people died from atrocities perpetrated by the settlers. Osborn defines an atrocity as the murder, torture or mutilation of civilians, the wounded and prisoners. Neither side stands out as being more merciful or humane than the other. Both sides collected scalps and scrota as trophies. Both sides raped. Both sides would promise safe conduct to defeated enemies or non-combatants, and then massacre them as soon as they let their guard down. Both sides attacked easy targets (such as peaceful -- even friendly -- villages and settlements) as retaliation for hostile acts by totally unrelated war bands and militia units.