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    Need a job? Better convert your name to spanish

    Seems like not only are illegals getting the meanial jobs, they are getting some of the better jobs. Even when they have no experience.

    So, I'm thinking of changing my name to spanish just to see if I get more calls back. I think this would be a great experiment and might even be able to make a case of discriimination and sue some of these bozo's. Seems like the illegals have no problem finding jobs. I go to any commercial construction site and see 60% of the workers are illegals and the ones with any experience are getting paid $12-$15-$18 an hour.

    I have filled out dozens of applications and I am either over qualified or under qualified. Is that code for to old and to expensive or to white? I don't know if its the age discrimination or the racial discrimination. It used to be someone with many years experience was desired but now days it seems like the employers don't really care as long as you work cheap enough. I did have one company that told me right up front that I was over qualified and then insulted me by offering me $10 an hour. Can you believe it? This company hires only Americans but they pay the Americans like they are illegals. I know illegal laborers that make more money then that starting off knowing nothing. The company told me they could start me off at an insulting $10 an hour for 90 days and after that they felt sure with my qualifications, after proving myself during the 90 day trial period that they would give me a significant pay increase. I don't really hold back on words and I asked the guy "yeah, but if you hire me for $10 an hour then come time for that raise you'll want to give me $13 maybe $14 and I will still be paid way under what I am worth. Then the company will claim the raise is enormus while I'm still getting underpaid. I just told them I wouldn't accept less than $15 an hour and I would then be expecting at least a $2 an hour raise in 90 days. I know you usually don't want to go in telling the company what you'll take in pay but why not? I know they currently sub out my position which cost them a few thousand a week, my God would them saving fifteen hundred dollars a week be a good help? The guy interviewing me just said I was over qualified, well, pay me what I'm worth. Obviously I'm going to be making the company three times what they are going to be paying me. He said that he was sure I would be a good fit and they didn't have any people with the particular skills I brought in, he would talk to the owners and see what he could do. That was last week, haven't heard anything, I will call them tomorrow. The only reason I am willing to work for $15 an hour is because the company is small and therfore I could learn alot by doing many different aspects of the business I am not familiar with as opposed to a large company where you get stuck on large repetetive projects. Anyway... I'll bet they call back tomorrow and offer me less than the $15 an hour, I think they are just stalling to act as if they don't really need me but I will call their bluff. No $15, no work!

    Anyone else noticing this discrimination?
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    It's not much better here in California..My hubby just went back to work after 6 months of unemployment. The illegals have driven down the wages to where employers think you should jump at the chance to make $9.00 an hour. Constuction jobs have been HIJACKED by the illegals for cheap labor.

    Age does play into it too..We're in our 50's and there's not a big demand for our age group..I've sent our numerous resumes on me, and I haven't been called in once for an interview..We're always asked if we can speak Spanish...I'm furious that we're being discriminated over because we speak English...What is wrong with our country..?
    What part of illegal don't you understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No2Illegals
    It's not much better here in California..My hubby just went back to work after 6 months of unemployment. The illegals have driven down the wages to where employers think you should jump at the chance to make $9.00 an hour. Constuction jobs have been HIJACKED by the illegals for cheap labor.
    I think you need to move to Oklahoma. You will never find a good job in CA.
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    Anyone else noticing this discrimination?
    Absolutly. This isn't new or recent for me. In fact something similar just happened to my daughter, that happened to me with the last minimum wage increase.

    She works in daycare right now and went and got her certificate for that. That is SUPPOSED to guarentee you a higher wage than one without it. I'm not sure of the state laws but a percentage of your people must have this certificate or certification......but not all. She was hired....told in 90 days she would get a raise...you know... trial period and all. She did her 90 days...nothing....then 2 months after that they called her in to tell her she got her raise.... to what the new forced minimum wage is. They then hired one with no certificate or even a highschool diploma...at the same pay. As well as free daycare for her new baby..... I won't say why, but having the correct sir name helped.

    Now she's going to college part time, having to work her own way through because even though she financially qualified, had the grades, she was refused because she was white and there were only funds left for minorities. Of all the workers in the day care....she and 1 other girl are the ONLY white people....the only ones with certificates and the only ones who don't have a child getting free daycare on top of their pay.

    Now she's not the least bit racist.....in fact she was one that believed since being white maybe she did owe it to back up and make ammends for her "race". But even she can see, through a ton of different ways, that it is she who is experiencing racism because no matter what she does....she's always pushed back while others are being rushed to the front of the line based on race alone......not on experience or qualifications or work ethic or anything. Some of her "co-workers" find it rather funny and acknowledge it's happening to her....the smart, qualified white B is the low man on the totum pole. Funny, funny.

    I found out a long time ago...experience and education means nothing in getting what you are worth. They want cheap and either you take it or you don't have a job.

    I'm seeing people get hired with experience and education and get paid less than a Spanish speaker with no experience and no education because they speak Spanish and not English.

    I'm older so I'm already at a disadvantage simply having to compete with youth....let alone language and everything else.....nothing I can bring is worth a dime more to the employer when they can have any BODY for cheaper.

    My husband has a friend who is hispanic...but American...working in computers and has a great job. They downsized and even he knows the only reason he hasn't been given his pink slip is simply because of his name.....he also knows it's only a matter of time till he's replaced with cheap workers as well and his "race" won't be job security for long.
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    I'm in CA, college educated and have been searcing for a job for over a year. I was in the transportation/ logistics field for over six years and worked as an operations supervisor. However, despite my qualifications, I have not even been able to land an interview.

    What's more disturbing is that many of the jobs in this industry are increasingly demanding that you be bi-lingual, with the second language being Spanish. I speak a little spanish (not fluent) and am absolutely opposed to improving my Spanish Skills in order to secure employment in the United States. It would be different if these companies were doing business with Latin America in which a bi-lingual employee would be necessary. However, I can assure this is not the case.


    In any event, I will be leaving this state in July to try my luck elsewhere. I do not have much hope left for this state, even though I was born and raised here. But before I leave, I was going to try a little experiment. I was going to have two resumes, one with a hispanic last name and one with my original name. I will change nothing else, but the last name. Perhaps this will make a difference?
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    my great grand father's name was fernando and gave some of his children russian names and olga which is spanish or russia -I call businesses I see when I am out who seem to hire only spanish speakers -I jot down the number off landscape or construction truck,etc-I call them and ask where I can come in for application -they tell me they are not hiring -I will call from different phone with fake spanish accent or mostly say I am a contractor from another state.I tell them I have 'migrants' who want to stay in area -8 of 10 tell me to send them over right away Dh griffen in greensboro NC and 6 other states (big demolition and recycle company that even helped clean up world trade center)did not want to even give me a application in person after insistance they gave me one.When I got home and read it ,it was for driving truck only.I emailed my complaint-serveral emails between me and manager had her tell me'if we have to hire blacks and whites ,we might as well go home''.I still have the emails to prove it!

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    What's more disturbing is that many of the jobs in this industry are increasingly demanding that you be bi-lingual, with the second language being Spanish
    That keeps me out of anything I'm educated and experienced in....now it's demanded for maids, warehouse workers, house cleaners, laundry people, factory jobs, tombstone sales people, pizza delivery, flower delivery, cashier, cook, dishwasher, waitress, anything with the schools.....yet they aren't required to speak English.
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    Your right Crazybird. You mentioned warehouse workers which was related to the field I was in. A Warehouse Supervisor is a decent job in which most large companies require a college degree and at least 2-3 years experience. You can start at 45-50 thousand per year with a chance for a years end bonus. Not a bad job.

    The problem is now these companies are cutting corners by hiring warehouse workers that do not speak English. Thus, if you want that Warehouse Supervisor's Job, you also have to Speak Spanish in order to communicate with the workers.

    Just another case in which a good job has been destroyed by illegal invaders and companies who want to save a buck by hiring them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Your right Crazybird. You mentioned warehouse workers which was related to the field I was in. A Warehouse Supervisor is a decent job in which most large companies require a college degree and at least 2-3 years experience. You can start at 45-50 thousand per year with a chance for a years end bonus. Not a bad job.

    The problem is now these companies are cutting corners by hiring warehouse workers that do not speak English.
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    I know exactly what you mean every time I pick up something at an LA warehouse hardly nobody speaks English.
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    The REAL issue involved is the deliberate effort by global elitists to legally establish a massive underclass of economically indentured servitude much like the "Bracero Program" in 1942. The racial overtones have been intentionally propagated as a diversion from any scrutiny of the true motivation behind this issue.

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