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    I am only a little "hopeful" about this because...........

    I read in one of the previous articles.........It said that the 9th cannot go against Wake's decision, it can only recommend.

    The writer of the article could be wrong, that is why I am not 100% confident about this-------but that is what the article said.
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    It also sets the stage for an 11th-hour legal showdown in San Francisco, as the business and Hispanic civil-rights groups which have been challenging the law intend to seek an injunction from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals next week







    Let's just hope this doesn't mean we're out of luck come Jan. 1.

    The appellate just may have a hard time disagreeing with Judge Wake's ruling though and might surprise us. It's happened before so fingers crossed everyone!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS
    Quote Originally Posted by usanevada
    Full bone in cut

    and all the goodies to go with it

    One of the very very few casinos in Vegas that I know
    does not hire illegals

    They also have the cleanest kitchen in town and
    will take anyone on a tour
    Could that be the skyline or the showboat??
    The Showboat was imploded a couple years ago , its long gone

    The Skyline does have good stuff but I'm talking about a different
    place

    Jerrys Nugget

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    In his ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Neil V. Wake wrote that despite the plaintiffs' arguments that they would be harmed by the law, the greater harm would be to the general public if the law does not take effect as envisioned by the Legislature.

    The balance of harm tips sharply against Plaintiffs, not in their favor," Wake wrote.
    An intelligent man with common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyAmerica
    In his ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Neil V. Wake wrote that despite the plaintiffs' arguments that they would be harmed by the law, the greater harm would be to the general public if the law does not take effect as envisioned by the Legislature.

    The balance of harm tips sharply against Plaintiffs, not in their favor," Wake wrote.
    An intelligent man with common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usanevada
    Jerrys Nugget
    They built a Jerry's in Vegas?? I used to love going to the one in Reno when I lived there.

    The prime rib buffet was $3.99 all you could eat and they had the BEST horseradish sauce!

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    Appeals court won't block employer-sanctions law

    Quote Originally Posted by usanevada
    The 9th is firmly in the pocket of a foreign govt

    This will sit in the courts for years just like
    prop 187

    Anyone want to bet they put a hold on this program?

    I'll bet a Vegas steak dinner , any takers?
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    Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: Brking News and it is Good/Appeals court won't block AZ Law

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    Published: 12.21.2007

    BULLETIN: Appeals court won't block employer-sanctions law
    By Howard Fischer
    CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES

    The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals refused late Friday to issue a stay preventing Arizona's new employer-sanctions law from going into effect Jan. 1. The move came just hours after a federal judge in Phoenix rejected a request by business groups and others to block the state from enforcing its new employer sanctions law.

    Judge Neil Wake said any delay in implementing the law which allows suspension or revocation of state licenses of companies that knowingly hire undocumented workers would harm the state and, in particular, legal Arizona residents.

    "Those who suffer the most from unauthorized alien labor are those whom federal and Arizona law most explicitly protect,'' Wake said.
    "They are the competing lawful workers, many unskilled, low-wage, sometimes near or under the margin of poverty, who strain in individual competition and in a wage economy depressed by the great and expanding number of people who will work for less,'' the judge continued.
    "If the act is suspended, whether for a month or for years, the human cost for the least among us, measured by each person's continued deprivation, multiplied by their number, will be a great quantum.''

    Conversely, Wake said the challengers to the law have not proven they will suffer any sort of hardship if the law takes effect as scheduled Jan. 1. He pointed out the county attorneys who would investigate complaints against employers all said in court they would not file charges against any violators before Feb. 1. Wake said that gives him time to consider the legal arguments of the groups who contend the statute is unconstitutional.

    Nor was Wake convinced companies will suffer from the other requirement of the law that they check the legal status of new employees through the federal government's E-Verify system. He said their attorneys offered only "sweeping generalities'' of harm, mostly related to the cost of using the program.

    He pointed out that none of the groups that actually sued claim they don't have a computer or Internet access.

    "The only cost is employee time in learning the program ... and assisting new employees who wish to communicate with the federal government to resolve out-of-date government records,'' Wake wrote in his 29-page order. "That would be a few hundred to a few thousand dollars a year for the large majority of employers.''

    Wake acknowledged there is a debate in this country about whether the benefits of having undocumented workers in this country, including lower labor expenses for employers, outweigh the costs.

    But he said that is a decision not for him but instead for elected officials. And he said both Congress and now the Arizona Legislature have decided that the detrimental effects of illegal immigration "prevail over all who benefit from unauthorized alien labor.''

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    So this means we have won completely now?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    So this means we have won completely now?????
    No it means they are going to file an appeal with the 9th circuit court in San Francisco to try to stop it. Hopefully the Judge will go along with Judge Wake but hard to tell with the crooked pro-illegal 9th circuit court of appeals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS
    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    So this means we have won completely now?????
    No it means they are going to file an appeal with the 9th circuit court in San Francisco to try to stop it. Hopefully the Judge will go along with Judge Wake but hard to tell with the crooked pro-illegal 9th circuit court of appeals.
    Read the article/bulletin above you----the 9th refused to issue the stay!! The law goes into effect January 1!!

    "The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals refused late Friday to issue a stay preventing Arizona's new employer-sanctions law from going into effect Jan. 1. The move came just hours after a federal judge in Phoenix rejected a request by business groups and others to block the state from enforcing its new employer sanctions law. "
    "We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to racism, not because it is racism, but because it works." --- Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant.

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