Thread: L.A. Times: Illegals are going home

Originally Posted by Rawhide

Originally Posted by manjar

They maybe leaving CALIFORNIA but they are going to Colorado, North Carolina, Montana and other states. What are they going back to Mexico for?

This is the liberal media trying to tell you that they are going home and don't fall for it. Watch the Catholic church import priests and watch the growth of Spanish radio in your area.

LA is lost so forget California. We that lived there know this. Simi valley churches are now harboring illegals? 15 years ago illegals never left Bell Gardens and south central LA.

I have to agree with you Manjar, they are just going to other states.I'm a rather pessimistic person so my view on this is they probably printed it so we would think we're making progress and let up a little.

Rawhide!

This is very true. I don't believe the illegals are going back to Mexico...they're just moving to other cities/states.

I don't think they're enroute to Georgia.

Maybe they're enroute to NYC and Mayor Bloomingidiot.

Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen

I don't think they're enroute to Georgia.

Maybe they're enroute to NYC and Mayor Bloomingidiot.

Well let's see Arizona is out, Colorado and Georgia are out. New Jersey is out and now it looks like Oklahoma is out.

C'mon Texas and Kansas...

Originally Posted by Rawhide

WHY DOES THIS ARTICLE REPEATEDLY SAY-THE IMMIGRANTS LEAVING ARE OPENING UP OPPORTUNITIES TO "LESS-SKILLED" AMERICANS?

HOW ARE WE LESS-SKILLED THAN THE ILLEGALS ,MANY OF WHOM DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT TO HIGH SCHOOL IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES?

Rawhide!

They really do not think much of us. The less-skilled American is more skilled than those that come here. If they were, they would not come here.

Originally Posted by manjar

They maybe leaving CALIFORNIA but they are going to Colorado, North Carolina, Montana and other states. What are they going back to Mexico for?

This is the liberal media trying to tell you that they are going home and don't fall for it. Watch the Catholic church import priests and watch the growth of Spanish radio in your area.

LA is lost so forget California. We that lived there know this. Simi valley churches are now harboring illegals? 15 years ago illegals never left Bell Gardens and south central LA.

I agree w/you 100%. I seriously doubt illegals are leaving the US. They might be leaving LA, since LA is a hellhole these days, but they aren't leaving the US, like locusts, they're moving on to greener pastures, where there's plenty of free social services to take advantage of and jobs to be taken. LA is bankrupt.

This article needs to be reprinted in SPANISH and published in Latino newspapers. THAT will help spread the word faster!

LOL!

WE TOLDYOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by manjar

They maybe leaving CALIFORNIA but they are going to Colorado, North Carolina, Montana and other states. What are they going back to Mexico for?.

What will happen is that Mexico will have to put them to work and they have the resources to do it. But why should they when it is money from this country that is substaning Mexico's economy. Putting them to work will mean money for Mexico's economy. The $20 billion they sent back to Mexico will stop. We did this to Mexico and it is up to us the fix it by sending them home.
No one running accross the border to get here looks like they are starving and they will not starve when they get back.
By sending them back, we are doing what is best for Mexico and America.



Economy

Mexico has the ninth-largest economy in the world. Its main industries are food and beverages, tobacco, chemicals, iron and steel, petroleum, clothing, motor vehicles, consumer durables, and tourism. It is a major exporter of silver, fruits, vegetables, coffee, cotton, and oil and oil products.
Mexico produces approximately 3.5 million barrels of oil a day and is the world's eighth-largest oil exporter. Sales from oil account for nearly a third of all government revenue.
Remittances from Mexican immigrants in the United States to their families back home are a major source of income in Mexico, second only to oil, surpassing even the tourism industry. Remittances in 2005 totaled $20 billion.
Mexico's labor force comprises 20 percent agricultural workers, 24 percent industrial workers and 56 percent service workers. Agriculture accounts for 5 percent of Mexico's gross domestic product, industry 26 percent and services 69 percent. Income distribution is highly inequitable - approximately 40 percent of the population lives below the poverty line.
Mexico's main trading partner is the United States at 82.7 percent; Canada is second at 5.4 percent. Mexico also negotiated free trade agreements with Costa Rica in 1995, with Nicaragua in 1998, and with Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala in 2000.

North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)
Mexico's economy has undergone dramatic change in the last decade because of the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement, signed in 1994 by the United States, Mexico and Canada. NAFTA was born when American companies opted to move jobs to Mexico, where the cost of labor is a tenth of what it is in the United States. Proponents of NAFTA argued that it would spawn thousands of new jobs in Mexico and help modernize the Mexican economy.
Under NAFTA, Mexico's maquiladora ("bonded assembly plant") industry, which assembles goods for exports, added 3,655 new factories in seven years. Trade with the United States and Canada has tripled. Exports have grown from $52 billion in 1994 to $161 billion today. Mexico's per-capita annual income rose 24 percent, to approximately US$4,000.
Experts argue that bureaucratic gridlock, lack of political will and pervasive corruption have prevented much of the wealth generated in Mexico by NAFTA from being allocated to infrastructure, education and industrial innovation.
The official unemployment rate in Mexico at the end of 2005 was 3.6 percent. The country's official "underemployment rate" - a measure the government uses to denote employees earning less than minimum wage or working less than 35 hours a week - rose to roughly 25 percent in 2005, up from 9 percent in 2003. This statistic does not take into account figures for workers in the informal sector, such as street vendors and day laborers, believed to total 10 million people. Some sources suggest that as much as half of Mexico's workforce is unemployed or working informally.
The NAFTA-driven influx of imports has put thousands of Mexican companies out of business. Meanwhile, many American companies have begun to move their assembly operations to China, where the cost of labor is even cheaper than in Mexico. As a consequence, employment in the maquiladora industry is down 20 percent from its peak in October 2000, when 1.3 million workers were employed.
NAFTA has had a significantly adverse effect on Mexico's farming industry. Small farmers have been virtually wiped out by an influx of subsidized U.S. food imports. Business Week reports that 1.3 million Mexican farm jobs have been lost since the signing of NAFTA.

Illegal Migration
1. The average daily wage in Mexico is approximately US$7. In the United States, undocumented workers make an average of 10 times more, or US$70.
There are an estimated 8 million to 12 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States. This is more than double the 1994 figure. Approximately 5 million are from Mexico.
The number of immigrants apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol along the Mexican border so far in 2006 is up 4 percent from this time in 2005. To date, there have been 826,109 apprehensions along the Mexican border in the first half of 2006 - almost as many as were apprehended in all of 2003.
A record 460 migrants died crossing the U.S.-Mexican border during the last fiscal year (October 1, 2004, through September 29, 2005), compared with approximately 50 in 1995.
Arizona is considered the most treacherous place to cross, but it is increasingly favored because it is remote and difficult to patrol. In 2005, the bodies of about 127 migrants were found in the Tucson area.
With more than 11,000 agents and a budget of $1.4 billion, the U.S. Border Patrol has never been larger or better funded.

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stori ... facts.html

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Remittances from Mexican immigrants in the United States to their families back home are a major source of income in Mexico, second only to oil, surpassing even the tourism industry. Remittances in 2005 totaled $20 billion.

"Second only to oil" and illegal narcotics, prescription drugs, controlled substances, and dope, from which there is gross revenue estimated at $140 billion. That is more than oil, tourism, and the money immigrants send home all added together. Don't forget revenue from the activities ancillary to the cocaine traffic, such as pornography and sex trafficking.

"LA Times illegals are going home" Not fast enough as far as I'm concerned!