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    Quote Originally Posted by barkway
    who would defend them? Their "Mounties?" (Dudley DoRights)
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    My question is if these Hispanic "I hate white" groups take over land and god forbid they do, do you think Canada will sit idley by and allow their land to be taken over too.
    my point exactly, we're in trouble on all accounts.

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    Is La Raza racist? Yes, they are. Is La Raza dangerous? According to anti-terrorism legislation on the books, yes, they are. Will La Raza ever cease and desist on their goals to fill government with their kinds? No, they won't ever stop unless someone else stops them. And, from their own mouths and writings, if they cannot overthrow the "****** redneck politician in Washington D.C.", then they will resort to violence.

    La Raza envisions a new nation made up of our Southwestern and Western states, called AZTLAN.

    La Raza and MEChA (as well as others) claim that our country's elderly are "taking up space and are a waste of air."

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    http://www.aztlan.net

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    A bit from LaRaza
    Open Borders group
    Contends that the mythical land of "Atzlan" was stolen from Mexico by the United States
    "We see no human being as 'illegal.' Those who have arrived to the U.S. with heritage indigenous to the Americas, and specifically those crossing the southern border, are migrants on their own continent."
    "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our [Hispanic] population." - Founder Jose Angel Gutierrez


    La Raza Unida ("the Unified Race"), also known as the La Raza Unida Party, is an association of groups formed in the late 1960s and early 1970s with chapters throughout the Southwest, especially in California, Colorado and Texas. As the organization itself explains, "La Raza Unida [in Texas] organized around electing Chicanos to Boards of Education and City Councils. . . . The spirit and force of La Raza Unida was truly embodied in Texas under the leadership of Jose Angel Gutierrez, a student and [the] president of the Mexican American Youth Organization (MAYO)."

    Gutierrez, who founded La Raza Unida, is currently an attorney and a political science professor. He formerly headed the Mexican-American Studies Center at the University of Texas' Arlington campus. In January 1995 Gutierrez made a passionate case for open borders to a Hispanic audience at the University of California's Riverside campus. An advocate of mass, unchecked migration between Mexico and the United States, Gutierrez complained, "The border remains a military zone [a reference to the presence, albeit meager, of agents patrolling the vast southern border of the United States]. We [Mexicans] remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannot - we will not - and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our population."

    Gutierrez has established a reputation as a sometimes crude and offensive speaker. "We have an aging white America," he said on another occasion. ". . . They are dying. . . . They are sh---ing in their pants with fear! I love it! . . . We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." "Our devil," Gutierrez has said many times since 1970, " has pale skin and blue eyes."

    La Raza Unida held its first convention in 1972. In addition to Gutierrez, prominent members were Corky Gonzalez, Reyes Lopez Tijerina, and Cesar Chavez. The group's mission statement, according to its official website, is "Re-Commit, Re-Direct, Re-Organize and Re-Claim our past Chicano activism. . . . We will seek group ascendancy and solidarity among persons of Mexican American ancestry in this century."

    La Raza Unida opposes school voucher programs, advocates youth education programs designed to "enhance the education they are currently receiving in the public education system," opposes the North American Free Trade Agreement, and, most importantly, supports an open borders policy. In other words, it advocates unrestricted immigration; the effective dissolution of American borders; and amnesty, civil liberties protections, and expanded rights for those who have already violated immigration laws to enter the United States.

    La Raza Unida also professes "a commitment to the advancement of people of indigenous heritage," an advancement to be achieved by means of "the complete reworking of the current [capitalist] economic system." It further seeks what it calls "fair taxes for all," which, in the lexicon of groups advocating wealth redistribution, means ever-spiraling tax hikes for middle-to-higher-income earners, and a bloated welfare state. Moreover, La Raza Unida asserts that the U.S. government should "drastically reduce the amount of taxes used to fund military purposes," and calls for "an end to the militarization of society, including the borders." The organization articulates its immigration philosophy as follows: "We see no human being as 'illegal.' Those who have arrived to the U.S. with heritage indigenous to the Americas, and specifically those crossing the southern border, are migrants on their own continent."

    La Raza Unida's contention that its homeland was stolen by white Americans is a central reason for its militant posture. In fact, the group openly claims that large regions of the American Southwest do not rightfully belong to the United States. This premise was demonstrated in the summer of 2004, when La Raza Unida produced an ad to publicize an August 24 rally to be held in a venue it identified as "East Los Angeles, Califaztlán." The significance of this merging of the words "California" and "Atzlán" cannot be overstated. Radical Hispanic groups such as La Raza Unida and MECha (an acronym for Movimiento Estudiantil de Chicanos de Aztlan, or the Student Movement of Aztlan Chicanos) commonly refer to a mythical place called Atzlan. This is supposedly the cradle of Aztec civilization which was unjustly seized by the United States following the Mexican-American War, and which ought now be returned to its alleged rightful owners: the people and government of Mexico.

    On its website, La Raza Unida "pledges to seek and offer support to other organizations performing actions mirroring those we address." La Raza Unida went through a period of re-organization and restructuring after 1975, and for some time it lacked cohesiveness. However, the group appears to be much more active of late and proudly claims to be "doing outreach via the Internet as well as in person in events, demonstrations, and individual contact."
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    uhhhhh why is any racism "reverse racism?" Racism is racism. I am 40 years old and my whole life I've only ever seen the racism label applied to whites.

    I have to acknowledge this is changing a bit, but the whole concept of 'reverse racism" seems to imply that non-white racism is less ugly or less poisonous. Or that non-white racism is only a REACTION to white racism.

    If people really feel that we are all equals, then racism is racism.

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    I think it is interesting that La Raza means The Race. If they are "The Race" then they mean anyone else is not "The Race"...that's kinda racist don't you think? I bet if they had it to do over they would pick a different name.
    LaRaza is the "Race", and if you arent one of them, you need to die. That is what they say. How this racist group came into gaining recognition as a 'do good' organization, is being me!
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    La Voz de Aztlan and the League of United Latin American Citizens—among others—have echoed La Raza and MEChA. The Americans are racists. They are lazy, dishonest; they have ruthlessly exploited their neighbors. Now hold on a minute! La Raza and MEChA are radical racist groups—the average Mexican citizen couldn’t possibly hold such views! Well, think again.



    The latest Zogby International poll on Mexican-American relations was a tad more revealing than President George W. Bush would have liked. Zogby interviewed one thousand Mexicans between February 10 and February 16 and one thousand-and-ten Americans between February 3 and February 6 and the results were disconcerting to say the least. Only 36 percent of the respondents from south of the border had a positive view of Americans, only 26 percent thought Americans were hardworking, only 16 percent thought Americans were honest, and 73 percent believed Americans were racist. Americans, on the other hand, were far more generous; 84 percent had a positive view of Mexicans, 78 percent believed them to be hardworking, 42 percent perceived them as honest and only 18 percent thought of them as racist.



    La Raza and MEChA have been hard at work poisoning Mexican attitudes against Americans and they have been very successful playing the race card on one side and political correctness on the other. Negative stereotyping is the hallmark of the bigot and the racist. It doesn’t matter whether is comes from Nathan Bedford Forrest, Juilius Streciher, Mad Mullah Bakri or MEChA, it is an effective strategy. It doesn’t take much to stir up hatred against a group that is constantly portrayed as lazy, dishonest and racist. This is La Raza and MEChA’s game. Their goal is to re-conquer Aztlan. They are re-conquistadors.



    The $100,000 question the pollsters asked the respondents was: Why was the United States wealthier than Mexico? Americans said it was due to the free enterprise system; Mexicans said it was because America had ruthlessly exploited Mexico.



    The real reason Mexico lags far behind America in economic development has nothing to do with exploitation. Mexico is not a democracy. They are not a democratic people. That is the problem. Oh, sure, they have elections and a constitution and the outward trappings of a democracy but it takes more than stuffing ballot boxes every few years to rise from peonage to self-government, from serfdom to self-actualization. Mexican culture can be a lot of things but one thing it is not is democratic. From the Viceroyalty of New Spain to Vicente Fox it hasn’t changed all that much. Peonage still lies heavily across the land. The old ways don’t die easy. Mexico is not a democracy.



    Really? Not a democracy? How does one know that? Can it be proven? Yes, there is a simple test one might make. Let your fingers do the walking. Take a trip through the Yellow Pages, read the bulletin board at the Super Market, check the flyers stuck under the windshield wipers after the ballgame or the PTA meeting, listen to WHELL in the morning. If the Hammerhead Shark Preservation Society is meeting Friday at 9 PM at the Zonta Building and the Mount Podunk Floral Arrangers will be putting on their annual Petunia Festival next Saturday one has a democratic society in full bloom. And if that’s not enough, there’s the Possum Day Parade, the Doo Dah Parade, and the Gay Parade. When every town of any size has a grass roots support group for every malady known to be afflicting mankind one has a thriving democracy. Americans aren’t waiters; they like to do things for themselves. The government is oh-so slow. If one man can start Alcoholics Anonymous two men can start a woodchuck club, though chucking woodchucks could get them in a lot of trouble. Democracy is private groups, more private groups and still more private groups. Why, a handful of enterprising impresarios could bring civilization to a wilderness it they set their minds to it! While America is wall-to-wall with self-sponsoring special interest groups, Mexico hasn’t been able to come up with a respectable Labor Union. For comparison: India is a democracy, Mexico is not; Japan is a democracy, Argentina is not; England is a democracy, though maybe not for long, Iran is not—Islam will see to that. There is a direct correlation between the number of civic groups that have little or no connection to governmental bodies and how democratic a country is.



    Mexicans should ignore Aztlan. It has nothing to do with democracy—it is a racist pipe dream. Aztlan never existed. Spain had no more right to Texas and California than Adolph Hitler had to the Sudetenland. Aztlan belonged to the indigenous native-American tribes that wandered over its mountains and deserts hunting dear and antelope. The Pope gave Aztlan to Spain. Popes had been giving away land that didn’t belong to them for Centuries. How different the Dutch—when the early settlers from Amsterdam purchased a chunk of Long Island from the Setalcott Indians they coughed up “10 coats, 12 hoes, 12 hatchets, 50 muxes, 100 needles” and other disiderata. The Karankawas, Tonkawas, and the Caddos got from Spain and Mexico what Bo got in the way of a last name—Diddley. When Texas seceded from Mexico, Anglos outnumbered Mexicans and the Native-Americans outnumbered both.

    The perception that Americans are ‘lazy’ is the work of La Raza and MEChA aided and abetted by the usual love-hate relationship that exists between a boss and his employees. Ergo: the boss drinks coffee while the employee cuts grass and trims hedges. The boss is always taking it easy and the boss is usually an American. Beetle Bailey was convinced that General Halftrack spent half the day ogling Ms. Buxley and the other half playing golf—which was true—but Eisenhower and McArthur and Patton and Marshall were workaholics and Willie and Joe, no matter how much they griped, knew down deep, American was winning the war because the brass hats were on the job. The relationship between fruit picker and fruit grower, between punch press operator and straw boss, between pearl diver and restauranteur, between the guy who picks up the garbage and the city official, between those who work a scheduled eight-hour day and those who might work four or eight or sixteen or not at all is more confusing. But the bosses are mostly American so they must by lazy.



    This is good propaganda for the Bolsheviks who dominate La Raza and MEChA. They are not interested in solving problems—they are interested in exacerbating them. They are out to conquer Aztlan. Mario Obledo, one of the founders of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund has said, “California is going to be a Hispanic state, and anyone who doesn’t like it should leave. They should go back to Europe…Eventually we will take over all the political institutions of California.” (And when we are done kicking out the Europeans, we will kick out the Vietnamese and the Chinese and the Koreans, and the Hondurans and the Salvadorians too it they won’t cut our grass and trim our hedges) And when Obledo and his compadres have reduced California to the same miserable economic condition as Mexico what will they do? Well, there’s Florida and Indiana and Ohio. And after that who knows—maybe Puerto Rico and the Bahamas. They could end up drawing welfare checks from Hugo Chavez.



    La Raza and MEChA are hate groups, more polished than the Klan but just as paranoid. They have contributed little to the prosperity of Mexico and none to America. They are a drain on society. They have been successful in spreading racism through portions of the Mexican community and little else. Maybe Socialism—the opiate of the masses—has gained a little. Is Vicente Fox leading Mexico down the road to democracy? It’s hard to tell—obviously, there will be a few detours. La Raza Unida and MEChA are traveling down Arafat Lane toward Gulag Boulevard and the Land of the Perpetual Intifada. These people are losers.



    http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html
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    Much More on this Radical Band of Subversives

    Reconquistador
    By Michelle Malkin
    FrontPageMagazine.com | September 1, 2003

    Now that Democrat Cruz Bustamante is California's gubernatorial recall front-runner, we can look forward to in-depth media investigations of the Latino candidate's long-held ties to the racial separatist group MEChA, right?

    Ha.

    While Katie Couric complains about Republican candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger being "the son of a Nazi Party member" and international media outlets assail Schwarzenegger adviser Pete Wilson as "anti-immigrant" and "racially divisive," the liberal press has been stone-cold silent on Mr. Bustamante's connection to one of the nation's most virulently racist organizations.

    As a student at Fresno State University in the 1970s, Mr. Bustamante was an active member of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or MEChA, which stands for the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan. Mr. Bustamante repeatedly denies having a "radical ethnic agenda," but has refused to disassociate himself from his Mechista roots. In fact, Mr. Bustamante recently returned to Fresno State for a separate Latino commencement ceremony founded by two of his Chicano activist classmates.

    MEChA has been dismissed by some as a harmless social club, but it operates an identity politics indoctrination machine on publicly subsidized college and high school campuses nationwide that would make David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan turn green with envy. MEChA members in the University of California system have rioted in Los Angeles, editorialized that federal immigration "pigs should be killed, every single one" in San Diego, and are suspected of breaking into a conservative student publication's offices and stealing its entire print run in Berkeley.

    MEChA's symbol is an eagle clutching a dynamite stick and machete-like weapon in its claws; its motto is "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada [For the Race, everything. For those outside the Race, nothing]." The MEChA Constitution calls on members to "promote Chicanismo within the community, politicizing our Raza [race] with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlan." "Aztlan" is the group's term for the vast Southwestern U.S. expanse, from parts of Washington and Oregon down to California and Arizona and over to Texas, which MEChA claims to be a mythical homeland and seeks to reconquer for Mexico - reconquista.

    MEChA's liberation agenda, outlined in "El Plan de Aztlan," states defiantly:

    "We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent. Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner 'gabacho' who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture."

    Substitute "Aryan" for "mestizo" and "white" for "bronze." Not much difference between the nutty philosophy of Mr. Bustamante's MEChA and Papa Schwarzenegger's evil Nazi Party. To date, however, the only exposure Mr. Bustamante's MEChA history has received has been on the Internet.

    In a critical article on Mr. Bustamante published by David Horowitz's FrontPage Magazine.com last week, Lowell Ponte notes that "Like Nazism, MEChA has acquired more than a tinge of racism. In their tactics to advance Latinos and 'La Raza,' many of its activists have directed racist attacks against not only white-skinned Anglos but also against blacks, Asian-Americans and Jews - in fact, against every non-Latino group."

    Popular Internet blogger Tacitus points out: "It's tempting to dismiss this as a youthful affiliation that means nothing today - but that temptation would be wrong. There are certain associations that are socially tainting (and justly so) in the modern day, and they don't have statutes of limitations. Former Klansmen and former Nazis don't get a pass unless they spend a great deal of time and energy apologizing for and explaining themselves in a convincing manner."

    Why should Mr. Bustamante, a public figure already known to have used a racial epithet in the past (he infamously used a familiar racial epithet while addressing a Black History Month event two years ago) get a pass? Or, for that matter, former California State Assembly speaker and Los Angeles mayoral candidate Antonio Villaraigosa, State Assemblyman Gil Cadillo, State Sen. Joe Baca, and Arizona Democratic Rep. Raul Grijalva - all unapologetic Mechistas?

    Miss Couric, I know you'll get to the bottom of this. They don't call you Hardball Katie for nothing.
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Re ... sp?ID=9600

    MEChA: Social Justice Group or KKK?
    http://www.stanfordreview.org/Archive/V ... ial1.shtml

    http://magic-city-news.com/article_5910.shtml
    Despite the phony words of George Bush, the Mexican government is no friend of Americans. US politicians who pander to Mexico's corruption may fool themselves, but they don't fool Americans. Do these elitist bureaucrats think that today's MEChA is just a student fraternity with its goal of partitioning the US Southwest into Aztlan? MEChA is only one of many US-based Latino groups who hate America and work for its destruction with US taxpayers' money given to them by pandering politicians

    Senator McKee moved that the Student Senate allocate $90 to MEChA
    uwadmnweb.uwyo.edu/asuw/minutes/Spring%202003/ Senate%20Minutes%20March%2025,%20'03.doc

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    Go at it folks! Give 'em some old fashioned education!

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    Reps Tancredo, Gutierrez Engage in Nasty Exchange

    WASHINGTON—Rep. Tom Tancredo and an Illinois congressman traded charges of racism during a heated confrontation following a televised appearance Wednesday on immigration reform, both their congressional offices confirmed today. Tancredo and Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., are frequent sparring partners on the talk show circuit as Congress works to pass some version of immigration reform. Tancredo is a leading advocate of tougher enforcement against illegal immigrants and people who hire them. Gutierrez, the son of Mexican immigrants, calls Tancredo’s approach “ugly policy” motivated by racism.

    On Wednesday, they appeared together on CNBC, and when the cameras stopped rolling the debate continued with a spat first reported by the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call.

    {snip}

    Gutierrez said to Tancredo: “You racist! You bigot!”

    Tancredo told Gutierrez: “You look in the mirror if you want to see a racist.” Gutierrez and staff members finally got on the elevator, while Tancredo and his team took the stairs.

    When they met again on the first floor, Gutierrez told his staff, “Better hurry up—the KKK is coming,” according to Roll Call. He accused Tancredo of following him, although Adams said they simply needed to use the same exit because Tancredo’s office is across the street.

    Just outside, Gutierrez said to aides within Tancredo’s earshot: “I thought about hitting him, but then I thought, ‘What if I (expletive) kicked his ass,’” the newspaper reported.

    “To say this is unbecoming of a Congressman doesn’t go far enough,” Adams said. “This is unbecoming of an adult.” Asked if Tancredo wanted an apology, Adams said, “It would be nice if he apologized. We’re not expecting that from somebody who threatens to beat people up.”

    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/20 ... redo_g.php

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    Civil wars don't extend ONLY into the civilian populace - they also rattle the chambers within government itself!

    This is only a sign of things to come. Things will get even more nasty as "the Race (La Raza)" and their ilk continue to threaten, intimidate, coerce and riot.

    By the way, a civil war does NOT always entail weapons. Such a war begins with words, threats, intimidation and coercion first. As tensions escalate, someone eventually loses his/her cool and physically attacks someone.

    Hearing that Mr. Gutierrez even THOUGHT about making violent physical contact with Tancredo is a telltale sign of where this is all heading, whether people want to think about it or not. Scary things tend to make people run and hide - sticking their heads in the sand hoping the lightning bolts will miss them. Unfortunately, lightning strikes the highest object. If one has his/her head stuck in the sand, which portion remains up in the air exposed and vulnerable?
    Pro Patri Vigilans! Death to Aztlan!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpinZone
    My question is if these Hispanic "I hate white" groups take over land and god forbid they do, do you think Canada will sit idley by and allow their land to be taken over too.
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    that would NEVER happen, LOL. You've not thought that one through.
    This country really is filled with Americans in every sense of the word. Some of them are just napping for a bit.

    Canada has their own ILLEGAL problems with the Muslims and others. They're in bad shape and have allowed the Muslims to do the same as the mestisos have here.
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