Thread: LaRaza has veto power over immigration bill?

It's all about power! The hispanic groups have been allowed to grow
and become powerful and our so called representatives are listening
to them so that they will vote for them so they can stay in office and
keep their power. We need to bring the power back to the citizens
of this country and to our wants and needs. That's why we need to
band together to form a large and powerful group so our represent-
atives will listen to us and pander to us instead.

Originally Posted by Nicole

As I was faxing and calling and extremely pissed off, my husband came home. He was listening to the Mike Church show on Sirrius and he said that Mike Church said that on Page 4 of this piece of sh*t immigration bill it says that:

LaRaza has veto power over the final bill before it gets to the floor.

Has anyone else heard this or can anyone substantiate this?

I am hearing so many horrible things about this bill-it seems to get worse by the minute.

If this is true, I would like to use the fact when I make my calls.

WE MUST NOT GIVE UP!!!!! KEEP CALLING AND FAXING!

GOD BLESS ALL LOYAL AND PATRIOTIC AMERICANS-THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK!

Contacted Tancredos office...left a message for them to look for this also...not that they needed me to tell them that ...but I did anyway.
I know his team is looking over this with a fine tooth comb!

Keep in mind everyone what Sen. Lindsey Graham said in his speech to the NCLR, "then we can tell the bigots to sit down and shut up!".

Now keep in mind he was talking about US, the Americans who want their borders secured and laws enforced, he says we are the bigots.

So when you make your calls, be sure to mention that Senator Graham says the 86% or so of Americans are bigots, and then ask all those senators if they feel this way also.

All newcomers. Look sometime at La Raza's site, if you have not already, this is an excert of a statement by their group:

[quote]We recognize that some people might be confused about our organization’s name, our mission, and our work. Much of this is understandable. Compared to some of our venerable counterparts in the civil rights and advocacy community, we are a relatively young institution, representing Latinos, an historically disadvantaged and oft-misunderstood ethnic minority. [color=red]We have a Spanish term in our name, “La Raza,â€

I've been hearing on the radio today too that the Council of La Raza and MALDEF had veto power over the Senate bill.

Huh???

Do people nowadays to make a difference in this country have to belong to a huge big biz funded group to influence DC?

Well, they better remember, there is a huge majority out here that is fuming mad. We may not have a fancy title but we still have power.

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Latino Groups Play Key Role on Hill
Virtual Veto Power in Immigration Debate

By Krissah Williams and Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, May 16, 2007; A04

When Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) declared last week that unnamed "stakeholders" would decide whether Congress overhauls immigration law this year, Latino organizations in Washington understood exactly what he meant.

After laboring in obscurity for decades, groups such as the National Council of La Raza, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and the National Immigration Forum are virtually being granted veto power over perhaps the biggest domestic issue coming before Congress this year. Organizations that represent what is now the nation's largest minority group are beginning to achieve power commensurate with their numbers.

"There's a real sense that the Latino community is key to the solution in this debate, so now they are reaching out to us more than ever," said Eric Gutierrez, lead lobbyist for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, or MALDEF. "Neither party wants to make a misstep politically."

Such groups were practically in the room yesterday, maintaining contact as Democratic and Republican senators tried to hammer out a new immigration bill before a deadline set by Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) for today before he moved it last night to Monday. The contours began to emerge for a bill that would couple a tightening of border controls with a guest-worker program and new avenues for an estimated 12 million undocumented workers to work legally.

Negotiators agreed yesterday that illegal immigrants would be granted a new Z Visa, allowing legal residency for eight years. During that time, the head of an undocumented household would have to temporarily go back to the home country to apply for permanent U.S. legal status for his or her family. Holders of Z Visas would then have to pay a fine and back taxes, undergo a criminal background check, and begin to work toward citizenship.

But Republicans and Democrats were still trying to bridge a deep divide over two remaining issues: Whether 400,000 foreigners entering the country as temporary workers would have to leave the country after three years or be granted a chance to stay permanently, and how extended family ties should be weighed in granting visas to those seeking to enter the country.

A deal on those tough issues could depend on the assent of Kennedy's "stakeholders," Democratic negotiators agreed. Democratic leaders, who are fighting for the loyalty of the fast-growing Latino electorate, have no desire to embrace legislation that could end up alienating the voters they are trying to woo.

The early word from the groups is not promising.

"Some of the proposals that are coming from the negotiations in the Senate and White House are measures that the immigrant community advocates are wholly against, particularly the elimination of some aspects of family reunification," said William Ramos, a spokesman for the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials.

The groups also oppose a policy that would force immigrants to return to their home countries for an extended period and to petition for reentry.

Latino organizations know well that they have muscle to flex. A bill passed by the House last year that would have made illegal immigration a felony drove millions of Latinos into the streets in cities across the country last spring.

When the current immigration law was written 21 years ago, the League of United Latin American Citizens, or LULAC, tacitly approved the legislation, even though it provided no direct path to citizenship for most temporary workers. But the Latino community was much smaller then, and illegal immigration was a regional issue, confined mostly to California, Texas and New York.

Today, U.S. citizens of Latino descent, having eclipsed African Americans as the nation's largest minority, are far more organized and politically active. "We're not going to let them screw it up," said Brent A. Wilkes, LULAC's national executive director.

LULAC, MALDEF, La Raza and the National Immigration Forum are part of a broad network of immigrant rights groups that hold nightly conference calls and strategy sessions on the legislation. The groups speak daily with top aides in Reid's and Kennedy's offices.

The White House, well aware that immigration may offer President Bush his last best chance at a major domestic achievement for his second term, has worked hard to keep the groups on board, even as Bush has shifted to the right with a new plan that is tougher than the proposals he embraced last year.

The White House held a meeting 2 1/2 weeks ago with Latino advocates, labor unions and civil rights organizations in which an adviser outlined an administration's policy based on increased border security and a temporary-worker program. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez have also met with some of the groups.

"At least they are paying attention to us," said MALDEF President John Trasviña.

The groups have also made it clear to Republicans that they are willing to press hard this year.

"Power is not handed over. To get your place at the table, you have to fight for it," Wilkes said.

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