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    Just a few things that caught my eye:

    We have started the wall. 1.5 billion given.
    Not true. No money was given for Trump's wall in the last omnibus bill. Actually, the bill specifically specified that no money was to be used on Trump's wall.

    Creating sixth branch of our military - Space Force.
    Huh???

    Doing well in North Korea. No tests, no missiles flying over Japan.
    Recent evidence suggest North Korea is currently working on a liquid-fueled long-range ICBM. Pompeo says North Korea is still making fuel for nuclear bombs. Is the fact that no missiles are flying over Japan the accepted mark for we're doing well in North Korea? To my knowledge no North Korean missile has ever flown over Japan. I guess expectations are set fairly low.

    Got rid of more regulations than any president in history.
    Not all regulations are bad. Some are needed to protect our environment and wildlife.

    Many utility rates down.

    Tampa Electric and Duke utility rates down.
    I'd like to see more specifics on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southBronx View Post
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    YES HE DOES!!!!!
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    MW wrote:

    Recent evidence suggest North Korea is currently working on a liquid-fueled long-range ICBM. Pompeo says North Korea is still making fuel for nuclear bombs. Is the fact that no missiles are flying over Japan the accepted mark for we're doing well in North Korea? To my knowledge no North Korean missile has ever flown over Japan. I guess expectations are set fairly low.
    North Korea launches missile over Japan

    By James Griffiths, Zachary Cohen and Joshua Berlinger, CNN

    Updated 6:14 AM ET, Fri September 15, 2017

    Sirens sound in Japan after second missile threat

    Story highlights

    First missile launch since September 3 nuclear test
    UN Security Council to meet Friday
    South Korea test fired missile capable of striking near Pyongyang in response

    (CNN) In a major show of defiance to the international community, North Korea fired a ballistic missile over the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido Friday.

    The launch is the second to fly over Japan in less than a month, and the first since North Korea's sixth nuclear test and new United Nations sanctions on the country.

    North Korean state media has yet to reference the launch, but a commentary published in the Rodong Sinmun newspaper Friday said "no matter how strong the pressure is, it doesn't work on us."

    Tokyo and Washington will be seeking to up that pressure at the United Nations Friday, with the two governments calling a snap meeting of the Security Council for Friday afternoon, ahead of the General Assembly next week.

    Speaking after the launch, the first since North Korea's sixth nuclear test, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said the launch was "totally unacceptable" and went against "the international community's strong, united will for a peaceful solution."
    Friday's missile test follows the release of a statement Wednesday, in which the North Korean state news agency KCNA threatened the "four islands of the (Japanese) archipelago should be sunken into the sea by the nuclear bomb of Juche," referring to the ruling ideology of North Korea.

    The launch also seemed to be intended to send a message to the US, flying a distance equivalent to that from North Korea to Guam, the US territory that has come under threat from Pyongyang in recent weeks.

    Furthest intermediate range missile test

    North Korea's latest missile was fired from the district of Sunan in the North Korean capital of Pyongyang, home to the country's main airport, the South Korean military said.

    Initial US assessments suggested North Korea fired an intermediate-range ballistic missile, similar to that fired over Japan last month.

    The missile flew about 3,700 kilometers (2,300 miles) and reached an altitude of 770 kilometers (480 miles) before landing in the Pacific Ocean. Guam is 3,380 kilometers (2,100 miles) from North Korea.

    Friday's missile flew the furthest of any North Korean intermediate-range missiles, though previous launches have used lofted trajectories, where missiles fly much higher over a shorter distance. By comparison, an intercontinental ballistic missile launched in July flew 3,700 kilometers (2,300 miles) high and traveled a distance of 1,000 kilometers (621 miles).

    In response to North Korea's launch, South Korea carried out a "live fire drill" that included a missile launch which the South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff said was capable of striking the Sunan airport launch site near Pyongyang used for today's launch.

    The South Korean missile, which was launched from the country's east coast while the North Korean missile was still in the air, was "a show of force in response to North Korea's latest provocation," a South Korean official told CNN.

    A second missile that was fired at the same time failed and "sank into the sea off the east coast," an official said.

    Park Soo-hyun, spokesman for South Korean President Moon Jae-in, said the country's military had been ordered "to prepare a stern measure that can effectively counter North Korea's increasing nuclear and military threats."

    "North Korea's firing of yet another ballistic missile is a clear violation of (UN Security Council) resolutions and a very serious and grave challenge to international peace and security," the South Korean government said in a statement.

    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the launch was "another reckless breach of UN resolutions" and a "major threat" to international peace and security "which demands a global response."

    In regularly scheduled press conference Friday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying reemphasized Beijing's "resolution" on pushing for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

    "China has strictly and comprehensively implemented the resolutions of the UN Security Council," Hua said, adding the country has "paid a great price and made sacrifices."

    Japan on high alert

    Friday's missile test set off sirens as a government warning, known as the J-Alert, went out to citizens across a broad swath of northern Japan.

    "The government is advising people to stay away from anything that could be missile debris," NHK reported.

    In a statement, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the missile test was the second time the people of Japan "have been directly threatened in recent weeks."

    "The international community needs to unite and send clear message after North Korea's dangerous provocation," Abe told reporters. "We must let North Korea understand there is no bright future for North Korea if it continues in this way."

    He said the Japanese government tracked the launch of the missile and "took all possible measures."

    Japan and the US have requested the UN Security Council hold "urgent consultations" at 3 p.m. ET Friday, according to the Ethiopian Mission to the UN. Ethiopian Ambassador Tekeda Alemu is the current UN Security Council president.

    Need for more pressure

    The launch came just hours after North Korea responded to the United Nations Security Council's unanimous approval of additional sanctions by threatening to "sink" Japan and reduce the US mainland into "ash and darkness."

    Those sanctions were prompted by North Korea's sixth nuclear test that occurred on September 3, which Pyongyang said was a successful test of a hydrogen bomb.

    That explosion created a magnitude-6.3 tremor, making it the most powerful weapon Pyongyang has ever tested.

    The nuclear test prompted discussions inside South Korea about the the redeployment of US tactical nuclear weapons in the country, an idea that the majority of the country's citizens approve of, according to recent polls.

    But on Thursday, South Korean President Moon Jae-in dismissed the possibility, warning it could "lead to a nuclear arms race in northeast Asia."

    Both Abe and Tillerson called for an intensifying of pressure on North Korea, including the full implementation of the new UN sanctions.

    "These continued provocations only deepen North Korea's diplomatic and economic isolation," Tillerson said.

    "United Nations Security Council resolutions, including the most recent unanimous sanctions resolution, represent the floor, not the ceiling, of the actions we should take. We call on all nations to take new measures against the Kim regime."

    He singled out Chinese oil supplies and Russia's use of North Korean migrant workers as two areas in which the two countries could take "direct action" against North Korea.

    Speaking Friday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua said it was "irresponsible and unhelpful to blame others," adding those parties directly involved in the dispute "should shoulder the responsibility" for it.

    North Korea has long maintained it wants nuclear weapons and long-range missiles to deter the United States from attempting to overthrow the regime of Kim Jong Un.

    Pyongyang looks at states such as Iraq -- where Saddam Hussein was overthrown by the United States, and Libya -- its late leader, Moammar Gadhafi, gave up his nuclear ambitions for sanctions relief and aid, only to be toppled and killed after the United States intervened in his country's civil unrest -- and believes that only being able to threaten the US mainland with a retaliatory nuclear strike can stop American military intervention.

    Many experts say they believe North Korea would not use the weapons first. Kim values his regime's survival above all else and knows the use of a nuclear weapon would start a war he could not win, analysts say.

    "This new missile test ... is both a reaction to the stringent UN sanctions of Monday evening and a wake-up call about the limits of sanctions and military threats as a way to change North Korea's behavior," said George A Lopez, a former member of the UN Security Council panel of experts for sanctions on North Korea.

    He said Trump should use his speech to the UN General Assembly next week to "demonstrate US leadership in loyalty to all allies in the region and state our commitment to developing new and vibrant security guarantees for all states, including (North Korea), that are not based on the threat or use of nuclear weapons."

    The White House has been pursuing a strategy of what it calls "peaceful pressure" in dealing with North Korea -- trying to build a global coalition to squeeze North Korea's revenue and isolate it diplomatically so it will eventually put its missiles on the negotiating table.

    China has been key to that strategy, as Beijing accounts for nearly 90% of all of North Korea's imports, according to recent data from the United Nations.

    Hours before the launch, Trump touted his relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping and their collaboration in addressing North Korea's rapidly escalating missile and nuclear programs.

    "We have a very good relationship with China and with the President of China. We are working on different things," Trump said. "I can't tell you, obviously, what I'm working on. But believe me, the people of this country will be very, very safe."

    CNN's Taehoon Lee, Junko Ogura, Paula Hancocks and Richard Roth contributed to this report

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/asia/...nch/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Just a few things that caught my eye:
    This one caught the eye of many also....


    “If you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card, you need ID,”
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    This one caught the eye of many also....


    “If you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card, you need ID,”
    Why would that catch your all's "eyes"? You need a photo ID to pay for (buy) your groceries with a check, at least two grocery stores in my city require photo ID to use a credit card, you need photo ID to buy cigarettes, beer, alcohol, and some over the counter medications that you buy at grocery stores, and there's some other items you may also need a photo ID to purchase. You probably should need a photo ID to use a Food Stamp EBT card, but I never see anyone asked for it. So what struck you as strange about his statement? Trump Supporters all knew what he meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    MW wrote:



    North Korea launches missile over Japan

    By James Griffiths, Zachary Cohen and Joshua Berlinger, CNN

    Updated 6:14 AM ET, Fri September 15, 2017

    Sirens sound in Japan after second missile threat

    Story highlights

    First missile launch since September 3 nuclear test
    UN Security Council to meet Friday
    South Korea test fired missile capable of striking near Pyongyang in response

    (CNN) In a major show of defiance to the international community, North Korea fired a ballistic missile over the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido Friday.

    The launch is the second to fly over Japan in less than a month, and the first since North Korea's sixth nuclear test and new United Nations sanctions on the country.

    North Korean state media has yet to reference the launch, but a commentary published in the Rodong Sinmun newspaper Friday said "no matter how strong the pressure is, it doesn't work on us."

    Tokyo and Washington will be seeking to up that pressure at the United Nations Friday, with the two governments calling a snap meeting of the Security Council for Friday afternoon, ahead of the General Assembly next week.

    Speaking after the launch, the first since North Korea's sixth nuclear test, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said the launch was "totally unacceptable" and went against "the international community's strong, united will for a peaceful solution."
    Friday's missile test follows the release of a statement Wednesday, in which the North Korean state news agency KCNA threatened the "four islands of the (Japanese) archipelago should be sunken into the sea by the nuclear bomb of Juche," referring to the ruling ideology of North Korea.

    The launch also seemed to be intended to send a message to the US, flying a distance equivalent to that from North Korea to Guam, the US territory that has come under threat from Pyongyang in recent weeks.

    Furthest intermediate range missile test

    North Korea's latest missile was fired from the district of Sunan in the North Korean capital of Pyongyang, home to the country's main airport, the South Korean military said.

    Initial US assessments suggested North Korea fired an intermediate-range ballistic missile, similar to that fired over Japan last month.

    The missile flew about 3,700 kilometers (2,300 miles) and reached an altitude of 770 kilometers (480 miles) before landing in the Pacific Ocean. Guam is 3,380 kilometers (2,100 miles) from North Korea.

    Friday's missile flew the furthest of any North Korean intermediate-range missiles, though previous launches have used lofted trajectories, where missiles fly much higher over a shorter distance. By comparison, an intercontinental ballistic missile launched in July flew 3,700 kilometers (2,300 miles) high and traveled a distance of 1,000 kilometers (621 miles).

    In response to North Korea's launch, South Korea carried out a "live fire drill" that included a missile launch which the South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff said was capable of striking the Sunan airport launch site near Pyongyang used for today's launch.

    The South Korean missile, which was launched from the country's east coast while the North Korean missile was still in the air, was "a show of force in response to North Korea's latest provocation," a South Korean official told CNN.

    A second missile that was fired at the same time failed and "sank into the sea off the east coast," an official said.

    Park Soo-hyun, spokesman for South Korean President Moon Jae-in, said the country's military had been ordered "to prepare a stern measure that can effectively counter North Korea's increasing nuclear and military threats."

    "North Korea's firing of yet another ballistic missile is a clear violation of (UN Security Council) resolutions and a very serious and grave challenge to international peace and security," the South Korean government said in a statement.

    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said the launch was "another reckless breach of UN resolutions" and a "major threat" to international peace and security "which demands a global response."

    In regularly scheduled press conference Friday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying reemphasized Beijing's "resolution" on pushing for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

    "China has strictly and comprehensively implemented the resolutions of the UN Security Council," Hua said, adding the country has "paid a great price and made sacrifices."

    Japan on high alert

    Friday's missile test set off sirens as a government warning, known as the J-Alert, went out to citizens across a broad swath of northern Japan.

    "The government is advising people to stay away from anything that could be missile debris," NHK reported.

    In a statement, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the missile test was the second time the people of Japan "have been directly threatened in recent weeks."

    "The international community needs to unite and send clear message after North Korea's dangerous provocation," Abe told reporters. "We must let North Korea understand there is no bright future for North Korea if it continues in this way."

    He said the Japanese government tracked the launch of the missile and "took all possible measures."

    Japan and the US have requested the UN Security Council hold "urgent consultations" at 3 p.m. ET Friday, according to the Ethiopian Mission to the UN. Ethiopian Ambassador Tekeda Alemu is the current UN Security Council president.

    Need for more pressure

    The launch came just hours after North Korea responded to the United Nations Security Council's unanimous approval of additional sanctions by threatening to "sink" Japan and reduce the US mainland into "ash and darkness."

    Those sanctions were prompted by North Korea's sixth nuclear test that occurred on September 3, which Pyongyang said was a successful test of a hydrogen bomb.

    That explosion created a magnitude-6.3 tremor, making it the most powerful weapon Pyongyang has ever tested.

    The nuclear test prompted discussions inside South Korea about the the redeployment of US tactical nuclear weapons in the country, an idea that the majority of the country's citizens approve of, according to recent polls.

    But on Thursday, South Korean President Moon Jae-in dismissed the possibility, warning it could "lead to a nuclear arms race in northeast Asia."

    Both Abe and Tillerson called for an intensifying of pressure on North Korea, including the full implementation of the new UN sanctions.

    "These continued provocations only deepen North Korea's diplomatic and economic isolation," Tillerson said.

    "United Nations Security Council resolutions, including the most recent unanimous sanctions resolution, represent the floor, not the ceiling, of the actions we should take. We call on all nations to take new measures against the Kim regime."

    He singled out Chinese oil supplies and Russia's use of North Korean migrant workers as two areas in which the two countries could take "direct action" against North Korea.

    Speaking Friday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua said it was "irresponsible and unhelpful to blame others," adding those parties directly involved in the dispute "should shoulder the responsibility" for it.

    North Korea has long maintained it wants nuclear weapons and long-range missiles to deter the United States from attempting to overthrow the regime of Kim Jong Un.

    Pyongyang looks at states such as Iraq -- where Saddam Hussein was overthrown by the United States, and Libya -- its late leader, Moammar Gadhafi, gave up his nuclear ambitions for sanctions relief and aid, only to be toppled and killed after the United States intervened in his country's civil unrest -- and believes that only being able to threaten the US mainland with a retaliatory nuclear strike can stop American military intervention.

    Many experts say they believe North Korea would not use the weapons first. Kim values his regime's survival above all else and knows the use of a nuclear weapon would start a war he could not win, analysts say.

    "This new missile test ... is both a reaction to the stringent UN sanctions of Monday evening and a wake-up call about the limits of sanctions and military threats as a way to change North Korea's behavior," said George A Lopez, a former member of the UN Security Council panel of experts for sanctions on North Korea.

    He said Trump should use his speech to the UN General Assembly next week to "demonstrate US leadership in loyalty to all allies in the region and state our commitment to developing new and vibrant security guarantees for all states, including (North Korea), that are not based on the threat or use of nuclear weapons."

    The White House has been pursuing a strategy of what it calls "peaceful pressure" in dealing with North Korea -- trying to build a global coalition to squeeze North Korea's revenue and isolate it diplomatically so it will eventually put its missiles on the negotiating table.

    China has been key to that strategy, as Beijing accounts for nearly 90% of all of North Korea's imports, according to recent data from the United Nations.

    Hours before the launch, Trump touted his relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping and their collaboration in addressing North Korea's rapidly escalating missile and nuclear programs.

    "We have a very good relationship with China and with the President of China. We are working on different things," Trump said. "I can't tell you, obviously, what I'm working on. But believe me, the people of this country will be very, very safe."

    CNN's Taehoon Lee, Junko Ogura, Paula Hancocks and Richard Roth contributed to this report

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/asia/...nch/index.html

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    Gee MW, you don't seem to even understand what the North Korea issue is all about or why Trump is using his Summit and Peace Negotiations to try and solve it without another war with North Korea.
    I qualified my comment with "to my knowledge." Sorry, unlike you, I don't profess to know everything about everything. You could have just told me I was wrong and provided a link because wasting all that space to tell me I was wrong wasn't necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Why would that catch your all's "eyes"? You need a photo ID to pay for (buy) your groceries with a check, at least two grocery stores in my city require photo ID to use a credit card, you need photo ID to buy cigarettes, beer, alcohol, and some over the counter medications that you buy at grocery stores, and there's some other items you may also need a photo ID to purchase. You probably should need a photo ID to use a Food Stamp EBT card, but I never see anyone asked for it. So what struck you as strange about his statement? Trump Supporters all knew what he meant.
    So are you saying all Trump supporters buy cigarettes and beer? Are you saying they all Trump supporters use checks and food stamps? Are you saying all Trump supporters buy over the counter medication that requires an I.D.?

    Well, I may not be a Trump cheerleader, but I am a supporter and I always pay cash or use a debit card at the grocery store. No, I don't purchase cigarettes, beer, or any kind of medication requiring an I.D. So no, not all Trump supporters knew what he was talking about. Hmm, maybe he could have been more specific .... just a thought.

    You're right, stoptheinvaders, that comment was a little out in left field for us folks that don't smoke cigarettes while getting drunk trying to figure out if we're going to write a check or pay for our groceries with food stamps when we go to the market.

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    Hi MW. Information about the Space Force the president mentions.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-military.html

    On the issue of ID and groceries, I just assumed he meant when writing a check or at times when ID necessary for credit card purchases.
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    yes the wall is going up it not invisible our friend live not to far from this & he said it look good . our President should have more Boot's on the ground with gun's if they try to come over shoot in the air . & they will stop .
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