Thread: Made in China

BearFlagRepublic wrote:

Most people here are anti-globalist.

Oops, guilty as charged.

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Most people here are anti-globalist.

I don't know if I fit into that camp. If you read my post, I'm think "globalization" is an eventuality, and that being totally "isolationist" is a bit extreme. What's up for debate, however, is HOW we go about embracing the future. There is no question that companies are sacrificing good will in favor of profits, which hiring illegal immigrants is a good example of. I would even go so far as to call some of these companies "un-American" for all the reasons cited here... That said, I DO think there is a way to avoid most of the downsides of globalization by, for instance, insisting on a more "moral" approach (for lack of a better term), and not being so reactionary towards China; a country we cannot even pretend to compete with on a level playing field, until they make some major political changes.

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Originally Posted by edstate

Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic

Most people here are anti-globalist.

I don't know if I fit into that camp. If you read my post, I'm think "globalization" is an eventuality, and that being totally "isolationist" is a bit extreme. What's up for debate, however, is HOW we go about embracing the future. There is no question that companies are sacrificing good will in favor of profits, which hiring illegal immigrants is a good example of. I would even go so far as to call some of these companies "un-American" for all the reasons cited here... That said, I DO think there is a way to avoid most of the downsides of globalization by, for instance, insisting on a more "moral" approach (for lack of a better term), and not being so reactionary towards China; a country we cannot even pretend to compete with on a level playing field, until they make some major political changes.

I read your post, and I realise that you don't share the majority view about trade here. However, myself and the others don't consider ourselves "isolationists." We are for more balenced, reciprocal, and mutual trade. Would you agree that China needs to obey trade laws, stop pegging their currency to the dollar, and lower their tariffs?

Absolutely! And I wasn't trying to "pick an argument" with you by pointing out my post... sorry for the confusion. Those points are exactly what I consider "don'ts" in terms of a globalization "strategy". However, I do think that there are a lot of isolationists out there... perhaps some on this forum And in a world that tends to argue in absolutes, blacks-and-whites, I don't think this issue can be argued that way. However, much like the illegal immigration debate, the parts of the bigger issue certainly can be argued that way. And should.

The reason many politicians side with China, is mainly yes, to make profits, but many are also Socialists. Many hold the beliefs of the Chinese Government. However, the difference between our politicians here and over there. Is that one used force to achieve its goal, the other use "compassion" yet both is to gain control of its people and country resources.


I cannot comprehend how at first the US accept items from China, now FOOD. Good grief, we got so much land in our beautiful country. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I was thinking that maybe one day future new business would begin creating manufacturing jobs here in the US.


There is nothing wrong with trading among countries, but the trade must be fair. We must not be isoationist but neither globalized where your left with nothing.


I don't recall where I seen whether on Fox or Lou Dobbs, but there was a young american gentlemen who wanted to be the first to get the ball rolling in starting a clothing manufacuture here in the US. He stated that he didn't like what he saw, that all of our products were from China or other countries, but no USA. I was so proud of him, finally someone waking up.

All it takes 1 person whether rich or just starting a business, to make a step. Eventhough that step is small, it is better than none at all. How sad, that our country is going down hill.

Americans are being forced to support Communism through commerce. While there are many products that we need like computers mostly made in Commie Land, there are thousands of products still Made in the USA. I will go without before I support Communists if I can. I will not ever knowingly buy anything that touches my food or a consumable Made in China. I would rather pay a few bucks more to buy American than support Communists any day. Buy American for America