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    Why McCain cannot beat the Dems in the National Election

    Although the media continues to air polls that show that McCain has the best chance of beating the Dems in November, these polls do not reveal the reason why McCain actually has the least chance of beating the Dems.

    And what is that reason?

    It's because McCain will not confront the Dems on their terrible record on immigration. He'll give them a pass on the issue because he actually agrees with them. He'll give Obama a pass for supporting drivers licenses for illegals, and he'll give Hillary a pass for waffling on the issue.

    Although at least 70% of Americans oppose illegal immigration, John McCain will not use that fact as a means of securing victory for his run for President because he loves illegals far more than his own people. McCain will transform the USA into the United Charities of America.
    [b] If we do not insist on Voter ID, how can we stop illegals from voting?

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    Why McCain cannot beat the Dems in the National Election

    Three Reasons Why McCain Can't Win The General Election

    First you have to assume Hillary gets the nomination, which despite Obama-mania is now all but a lock. She's forcing him to rely too much on the Black vote, which is just what she wanted to accomplish. She gets Hispanics overwhelming and the more Obama pursues the Black vote, the more he'll lose among middle-class whites. She wants to run against Jesse Jackson, not Martin Luther King. And Obama's future victory in South Carolina will make Obama look like exactly what he didn't want to be - the Black candidate in the race. The best he can hope for is a VP slot after Super Tuesday. The Democrat machine proves too powerful for Obama's rhetorical gifts. And at his age, he'll accept it and not fuel a black/white split within the Democrat Party.

    Once we reach the General, she'll take away McCain's only real strength with his own words. He conveniently provided a video: "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran." They'll weave a narrative between his well-known temper and foreign policy, making him look like a loose cannon a war weary general electorate won't go near. This is already up at Democrats.org.

    Temper, Temper: Immigration Outburst Shows Pressure Getting to McCain

    The second item is distasteful, but it's already hit the media again via Newsweek and it needs be mentioned because it plays right into Hillary's wheelhouse. It will be used by Clinton, Inc., most likely through a surrogate and/or 527. If you think women are going overwhelmingly for Hillary in the primary, you ain't seen nothing, yet.

    The Perot-McCain relationship goes back to McCain's five and a half years of captivity in Hanoi. When McCain's then-wife Carol was in a serious car accident, McCain's mother called Perot for help. "She asked me to send my people to Philadelphia to take care of the family," Perot says. Afterwards, McCain was grateful. "We loved him [Perot] for it," McCain told me in 2000.

    Perot doesn't remember it that way. "After he came home, he walked with a limp, she [Carol McCain] walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona [Cindy McCain, his current wife] and the rest is history."

    The third item is dismissing this spin from Patrick Hynes. The disaffection with McCain among the most loyal of the GOP base, conservatives, will suppress the vote enough to make winning the presidency an ocean too wide for McCain to swim. The Mac may indeed be back, unfortunately, the GOP is not. McCain will sink as Bob Dole II, not triumph like some returning General MacArthur wading through the surf.

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    Yes, Sharona, I agree there are other reasons why McCain cannot beat the Dems, but I disagree with you view that Hillary will be the Dem nominee.

    First you have to assume Hillary gets the nomination, which despite Obama-mania is now all but a lock. She's forcing him to rely too much on the Black vote, which is just what she wanted to accomplish. She gets Hispanics overwhelming and the more Obama pursues the Black vote, the more he'll lose among middle-class whites
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    Obama may not win the white vote in the South, but he has shown that he can win the white vote in the North as shown in Iowa and New Hampshire. And his momentum is building among young whites as an anti-establishment candidate. It is poetic justice the Clinton's will be defeated by a black candidate. If Hillary was an honest liberal, she would step out of the way and support the candidacy of a black American. Note also that ultra-liberal Bloomberg will not oppose Obama if he is the Dem candidate, so he is a truer liberal than Hillary.

    But all of this is secondary to the main point of this thread.

    McCain will not oppose the Dems record on illegal immigration, and that is the best ammunition that is available for a Republican Presidential candidate.
    [b] If we do not insist on Voter ID, how can we stop illegals from voting?

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    Lets not be delusional here and look at the facts.
    Most Republicans don't care about immigration, otherwise McCain wouldn't be in the lead and we know the Democrats definitely don't.

    Here are head to head match ups with republicans and democrats.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... ional.html

    Romney's problem is that people just don't like him. He has too high negatives. As disgusting as this is most people like McCain even if they don't agree with him 100% of the time.

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    Most Americans could care less about illegal immigration just like they could care less about the war in Iraq even though they may oppose both of them. You're not always going to agree with your candidate 100%, which is why McCain has been winning over voters. Many of the Rep. voters may oppose illegal immigration, but its not a deal breaker for them as it is for you guys. Most voters say, "So he supports CFR, but at least I agree with him 90% of the time on issues such as Iraq, government spending, etc".

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashman
    Most Americans could care less about illegal immigration just like they could care less about the war in Iraq even though they may oppose both of them. You're not always going to agree with your candidate 100%, which is why McCain has been winning over voters. Many of the Rep. voters may oppose illegal immigration, but its not a deal breaker for them as it is for you guys. Most voters say, "So he supports CFR, but at least I agree with him 90% of the time on issues such as Iraq, government spending, etc".
    Maybe you meant to say "Most Americans could NOT care less about illegal immigration . . "

    Keep in mind that the Dems and MSM want people to believe that Americans do not care much about illegal immigration, but the evidence is otherwise. Just look at the ALIPAC News page to see how so many states and local governments are responding to their citizens' demands for action to control and oppose illegal immigration.

    And also notice that illegal aliens are more noticeable and active in the hot summer months just ahead when they are loitering on street corners urinating in the bushes while looking for work from drive-by motorists.
    [b] If we do not insist on Voter ID, how can we stop illegals from voting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashman
    Most Americans could care less about illegal immigration just like they could care less about the war in Iraq even though they may oppose both of them. You're not always going to agree with your candidate 100%, which is why McCain has been winning over voters. Many of the Rep. voters may oppose illegal immigration, but its not a deal breaker for them as it is for you guys. Most voters say, "So he supports CFR, but at least I agree with him 90% of the time on issues such as Iraq, government spending, etc".
    Right, plus McCain pulls the moderate/independent support very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neodyn55
    Quote Originally Posted by flashman
    Most Americans could care less about illegal immigration just like they could care less about the war in Iraq even though they may oppose both of them. You're not always going to agree with your candidate 100%, which is why McCain has been winning over voters. Many of the Rep. voters may oppose illegal immigration, but its not a deal breaker for them as it is for you guys. Most voters say, "So he supports CFR, but at least I agree with him 90% of the time on issues such as Iraq, government spending, etc".
    Right, plus McCain pulls the moderate/independent support very well.
    Actually, most of those crossover votes are from Democrats and other liberal independents who will vote for Obama or Hillary in the national election. But they crossed over in the primaries to create mischief for the Republicans. Their goal was to have liberals as candidates for both parties. That way, the liberals cannot lose.
    [b] If we do not insist on Voter ID, how can we stop illegals from voting?

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    Too many Republicans simply won't vote for McCain. They will either stay home or vote for a third party candidate. That third party candidate still won't have enough votes to win the election. Hillary will be our next president.

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    Why McCain cannot beat the Dems in the National Election
    He's not smart enough.
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