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    Mexicans say nothing will stop them

    Mexicans are getting pretty bold, mostly due to the fact that they are not hearing anything except amnesty from the president. In certains cases, Mexican President Fox has been visiting illegals in American cities and telling them not to leave as he did in Washington state few months back. This article highlights their brazen attitude and lack of respect for our nations laws. Makes you really wonder why Bush really doesn't want to block off the border...


    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexi ... rants.html

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    Mexicans say nothing will halt illegal trips north

    MARK STEVENSON / The Associated Press | May 19 2006

    NOGALES, Mexico — Mexicans say it will take more than three layers of fence and 6,000 National Guard troops to keep them out of the United States.

    As President Bush visited the stretch of Arizona desert Thursday that serves as a cactus-studded freeway for thousands of undocumented migrants, those preparing to make the perilous trip said they will find a way around almost any obstacle.

    “We’ll go under it, we’ll go over it, we’ll go through the air, the sea or the earth, but they’re never going to stop us from crossing,” said Jesus Santana, a Tijuana truck driver who was caught trying to cross and deported.

    Increased security will likely only serve to make smuggling fees more expensive and drive immigrants deeper into debt, making them even more desperate to make it north.

    As a tired, bedraggled column of deportees filed across a Nogales border bridge Thursday — just as Bush was giving a speech on border security west of here — some migrants were already furiously dialing cell phones to contact immigrant smugglers for their next attempt..
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    The article is not on the site!

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    Please post a link to the article. The one posted does not work.
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    Thanks Popeye. Welcome to the ALIPAC forums!

    Once we get interior enforcement put back to where it should be, there won't be a very hospitable environment for those who come illegally.
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    Mexicans say it will take more than three layers of fence and 6,000 National Guard troops to keep them out of the United States.
    Another serious threat that Bush will do nothing about.

    From the link above:
    Mexico's government has expressed concern about the wall and National Guard proposals, saying they aren't the way to solve problems of border security and illegal migration north.
    To hell with what Mexico thinks..but Bush will listen to them.

    “Most countries want to bring their people together and tear down physical, commercial and cultural barriers,” presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said Thursday. “Anyone who proposes separating them is out of line. Walls are a sign of distrust, and that will never be the basis of a good friendship between two countries.”
    That's true if immigrants assimilate, but the overwhelming majority of people coming in from Mexico don't. Comments that have come from La Raza's leaders prove that. One of them is known for saying that the gringo must be killed if necessary.
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    There are ways to stop them, or at least put a giant dent in the numbers, but President Bush and Congress just don't have to will to do what is necessary. First thing we need to do is put an end to this 100 mile rule. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't every illegal caught within 100 miles just taken back to the border and released? What good does that do, because the illegal is just going to continue trying until he gets lost in America (outside the 100 mile catchment zone). I believe every illegal should be photographed, finger printed, etc. (processed) before he/she is released with a warning that if caught a second time you're going directly to prison for 12 months. We could erect a several (or more if needed)10,000 person capacity tent city prisons along the border for those caught a second, third, fourth, etc. time. Each time caught we add 12 months. For example, caught a second time 12 months, caught a third time 24 months, caught a fourth time 36 months. Trust me, I'm sure you're not going to get many attempts after the second time. Why do I say that, because I keep hearing how many of these guys/gals are caught over and over until they finally succeed. Making them suffer the consequences for their actions is the only way we're going to get the point across.

    As for interior enforcement, we have to start mass raids, sweeps, etc. to round up those in our country illegally. When illegals are caught, they would be required to do 12 months in one of our tent city prisons on the border before returning to Mexico. If they attempt to re-enter, they get 24 months. If a woman with children is caught, we'd release her (after processing her) and the children back into Mexico with a warning, do it again and you go to prison. Obviously we can't imprison mothers with young children.

    Next, we must remove all reasons illegals come to America. Employers must pay serious fines and do jail time if caught knowingly hiring illegal immigrants. Also, if guilty of knowingly hiring illegals the federal government will confiscate their business and sell off the assets to help in the battle against illegals.

    The state highway patrol units and local law enforcement must get involved. Any individual that can't speak or read English should be suspect and questioned about their status. I admit, we can't run around questioning everyone that may look illegal, but those that give other signs of being illegal should be questioned and their status ascertained.

    The Social Security Administration must notify ICE anytime a non-existent social security number is used. Also, they must notify them when it is suspected that someone else is using another persons number.

    All loopholes used to purchase homes, cars, etc. must be closed.

    All day labor workers should show proof of citizenship or legal status prior to taking a job from a day workcenter. The police should frequent these places and requesting proof of citizenship or legal status.

    All illegals taken into custody should be interrogated in depth as to their knowledge of other illegal immigrants residing in the United States.

    The anchor baby law must cease to exist!

    No drivers licenses should be issued to any individual that can't prove they are a legal resident or citzen of the United States.

    I could probably go on, but the bottom line is we must remove all reasons illegal immigrants enter our country illegally and we must make our country very illegal immigrant unfriendly.

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    I could probably go on, but the bottom line is we must remove all reasons illegal immigrants enter our country illegally and we must make our country very illegal immigrant unfriendly.
    Removing just one will do it all--prosecuting employers big time!
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    Mexicans say nothing will stop them

    President Bush and U.S., Canadian, and Latin American business people
    want one giant "Free Trade Area" stretching from Alaska south through
    all of Central America, and including the Caribbean states and territories,
    too.

    Unfortunately, most of our Democratic and well as Republican elected representatives seem to "be on the same page" with this Free Trade
    philosophy. which evidentally has been taught globally in university
    economics courses for a number of yeats.

    They plan on a "North American Union" without bothering to gain the
    consent of the electorate of any of the nation-states involved! By
    refusing to enforce our immigration laws--and allowing the Mexican
    government to wield an unprecedented amount of influence in our
    internal affairs--they are busily creating a de facto union between the
    United States and Mexico even now!

    Our only real weapon is the BALLOT BOX, and business and religious
    organizations are also busy now organizing immigrants further, and
    registering as many of them as possible to vote in the upcoming 2006
    elections.

    The French and the Dutch were able to defeat acceptance of the European
    Union Constitution, but only through educated, coordinated organization of
    a large segment of their voting population. Register and HELP GET OUT
    THE VOTE to defeat this unlawful invasion of our country!!
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    Re: Mexicans say nothing will stop them

    Hi Popeye,
    How ya doin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye
    Mexicans are getting pretty bold, mostly due to the fact that they are not hearing anything except amnesty from the president.
    This is not (or will not be) the first time a U.S. president listened to the ultimatums of foreign nationals and acquiesced to their demands.

    Frightened of [Comrade] General Omar Torrijos, Jimmy Carter not only gave away the Panama Canal (soverign U.S. territory) to Panama, but paid General Torrijos to take it (in the name of globalism). Today the canal is administered by Hutchison Port Authority which belongs to the Peoples' Liberation Army. To this end, Jimmy Carter is the most vicious traitor in the history of the United States - worse than Benedict Arnold.

    To cave in to the demands of Communist backed Mexicans (who are demanding everything from amnesty to the ceding of the Western half of the US to AZT Land) is the same as meeting the demands of terrorists, is it not?

    Popeye, we are reminded on this website, a thousand times, how insane and unthinkable it is that almost the entire US Senate has aligned itself to the illegals to the detriment and to the damnation of citizens. It's absurd as hell - makes no sense - well, why? Could it be the "B" word? Could it be that there is.....

    high level ....blackmail?

    Arguments still stand that the Senate is subservient to the Trilateral Commission and to the Council on Foreign Relations - but still, is high level blackmail being used to force former conservative (now far left) senators to support illegals and H-1Bs?

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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