Thread: Mexicans say nothing will stop them

So if a person says no locked doors will stop them, they'll still get in to rob people, does that mean you throw up your hands and remove your deadbolts and leave your front door wide open? No, you make it even harder for them, if you give in to their threats, as that is what this is - a threat, you will never stop these lawbreaking thugs. It's a direct threat, trying to convince people we should not even bother to try to build better border security.

Of course a strong border will work as a deterrent, it may not be a perfect solution, but it is better than leaving the border wide open as it is now, which is exactly what they want. Make it harder to cross, make it more expensive to be smuggled, you'll stop some who would otherwise try if there is no border fence at all. A tall fence, topped with razor wire will make some people think twice about trying to hop over, as it is now in some places the fences have no wire and some places there is no wall or fence at all. What does that say about our commitment to secure the border? Don't give in to these scumbags who want to walk all over us, to steal our jobs, to mooch off our public services, and most of all, to rob, rape and kill us.

Welcome to ALIPAC Popeye

Hi Popeye Welcome!

OTHER ALIPAC MEMBERS READ ON I AM DROPPING AN INFORMATION BOMB for your consideration when I answer Popeye's question. I am providing evidence from our own congressional record that a coup de' taunt has in fact taken place.

Makes you really wonder why Bush really doesn't want to block off the border...

You asked... here's the answer.

Bush does NOT want the border closed for many reasons. None the least of which is to continue his agenda of ORCHESTRATING onfrontational events between outraged and frustrated citizens and the illegal aliens. Then he can fully impliment the martial law currently in place and waiting for "the event" so he and his cohorts can proceed to dismantle the United States, melt it into the NAU (North American Union) and PUBLICALLY ANNOUNCE the replacement of our Constitution with the New Constitution of the NAU. What are we going to do about it while under marital law? bye bye sovereign nation. bye bye sovereign citizens hello facism and one world government.

Why do you think he wants to Federalize the National Guard? It is not for natural disasters such as Katrina. It is because the infra structure does not exist in this nation to enforce martial law and the directives setting in place ready and waiting within the DHS. You better pray those Governors can hold the line and keep control of the National Guard which is their CONSTITUTIONAL right.

Bush already thinks the Constitution is weakened and disfunctional and replaced. His justification for that position is through a series of "agreements" not subject to Congressional over sight.

AND THE FACT:

This nation has been orchestrated into bankruptcy four times and is heading for the fifth. (1935, 1950, 1979, 1993 - 1997) 1979 appears to have been a big year for them. The money changed. Don't believe me? pull out a dollar bill from your pocket. Look at it! Here's another correlation for you to consider: 1935 Post WWI 1950 Post WWII 1979 Post Viet Nam (one of 80 U.N. mandates for war) But wait... isn't the U.N. a body organized to promote world peace?

Their task is almost complete. IN 1935 the first bankruptcy The Emergency Banking Act. THEY TRANSFERRED ALL PUBLIC ASSETS AS WELL AS PRIVATE ASSETS OF THE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND ALL FUTURE CITIZENS BIRTH CERTIFICATES TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE. The Federal Reserve IS NOT PART OF THE REPUBLIC or this current functioning central government. It is a corporation solely owned by at that time European bankers.

However one must remember there actions were perpetrated beginning with an unconstitutional act in 1913 The Federal Reserve Act LEGISLATED EX POST FACTO - which is specificially forbade under the Constitution which was in place at that time. Their actions are ILLEGAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND WE NEED TO STAND UP AND CALL THEM OUT ON IT.

The restructuring act of 1997 indicates this nation is no longer under the sovereign control of the people as a result of the series of bankruptcies and the transfer of assets. PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO POINT SIX ALL YOU HOME OWNERS OUT THERE THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS. ALL OF YOU IN THE MILITARY PAY ATTENTION TO section 4. Did you enlist to serve the United Nations or to serve your country? Those of us passionate about the open borders pay attention to point 2.

I submitt the following for ALL OF YOU to consider. Please be reminded this document is 1997. I venture to say the same report cannot be filed to day and that point 1 and point 4 has in deed been executed. Remember ours is not the only nation pulled into this trap. EVERY MEMBER NATION IS IN THE SAME BOAT.

Our nation must be dismantled because our nation is the ONLY nation in the world that is founded from day one as a Repulic form of government. All present day democracies are overlaid upon a nation originally formed under fuedalism. The people under fuedalism were subjects repeat SUBJECTS, property, chatel of the monarch. Americans OWNED their government it was a service government founded for the people, by the people and of the people. The Government served the people. The People did not serve the government UNTIL 1935.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquer...el=TOC_373127&

SUBCHAPTER B--UNITED STATES SOVEREIGNTY
SEC. 2311. CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.

(a) CONTENTS OF CERTIFICATION- A certification described in this section is a certification by the Secretary of State that the following conditions are satisfied:

(1) SUPREMACY OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION- No action has been taken by the United Nations or any of its specialized or affiliated agencies that requires the United States to violate the United States Constitution or any law of the United States.

(2) NO UNITED NATIONS SOVEREIGNTY- Neither the United Nations nor any of its specialized or affiliated agencies--

(A) has exercised sovereignty over the United States; or

(B) has taken any steps that require the United States to cede sovereignty.
(3) NO UNITED NATIONS TAXATION-

(A) NO LEGAL AUTHORITY- Except as provided in subparagraph (D), neither the United Nations nor any of its specialized or affiliated agencies has the authority under United States law to impose taxes or fees on United States nationals.

(B) NO TAXES OR FEES- Except as provided in subparagraph (D), a tax or fee has not been imposed on any United States national by the United Nations or any of its specialized or affiliated agencies.

(C) NO TAXATION PROPOSALS- Except as provided in subparagraph (D), neither the United Nations nor any of its specialized or affiliated agencies has, on or after October 1, 1996, officially approved any formal effort to develop, advocate, or promote any proposal concerning the imposition of a tax or fee on any United States national in order to raise revenue for the United Nations or any such agency.

(D) EXCEPTION- This paragraph does not apply to--

(i) fees for publications or other kinds of fees that are not tantamount to a tax on United States citizens;

(ii) the World Intellectual Property Organization; or

(iii) the staff assessment costs of the United Nations and its specialized or affiliated agencies.

(4) NO STANDING ARMY- The United Nations has not, on or after October 1, 1996, budgeted any funds for, nor taken any official steps to develop, create, or establish any special agreement under Article 43 of the United Nations Charter to make available to the United Nations, on its call, the armed forces of any member of the United Nations.

(5) NO INTEREST FEES- The United Nations has not, on or after October 1, 1996, levied interest penalties against the United States or any interest on arrearages on the annual assessment of the United States, and neither the United Nations nor its specialized agencies have, on or after October 1, 1996, amended their financial regulations or taken any other action that would permit interest penalties to be levied against the United States or otherwise charge the United States any interest on arrearages on its annual assessment.

( Here comes the BOMB hopefully awakening everyone )

(6) UNITED STATES REAL PROPERTY RIGHTS- Neither the United Nations nor any of its specialized or affiliated agencies has exercised authority or control over any United States national park, wildlife preserve, monument, or real property, nor has the United Nations nor any of its specialized or affiliated agencies implemented plans, regulations, programs, or agreements that exercise control or authority over the private real property of United States citizens located in the United States without the approval of the property owner.


(7) TERMINATION OF BORROWING AUTHORITY-

(A) PROHIBITION ON AUTHORIZATION OF EXTERNAL BORROWING- On or after the date of enactment of this Act, neither the United Nations nor any specialized agency of the United Nations has amended its financial regulations to permit external borrowing.

(B) PROHIBITION OF UNITED STATES PAYMENT OF INTEREST COSTS- The United States has not, on or after October 1, 1984, paid its share of any interest costs made known to or identified by the United States Government for loans incurred, on or after October 1, 1984, by the United Nations or any specialized agency of the United Nations through external borrowing.

(b) TRANSMITTAL- The Secretary of State may transmit a certification under subsection (a) at any time during fiscal year 1998 or thereafter if the requirements of the certification are satisfied.

There ya go team. Check out the link. Copy the proof. Send it to your representative and ask him to EXPLAIN exactly under what authorization the U.N. would have the power to execute any of the aforementioned conditions. Be warned the skittles are gonna hit the fan when you do. Some are honest brokers.

WAKE UP AMERICA! Your Republic form of government was set aside as the result of the Emergency Banking Act of 1935 which declared the Republic insolvent, transferred all assets of this nation in receivership and formulated a new government UNITED STATES a Democracy and a muncipal corporation to take its place.

This nation has been operating on emergency powers since the Civil War which expands the powers of the Executive branch removing an effective method of checks and balances intended by our founding fathers and clearly explained in our Constitution. THEY JUST FORGOT TO TELL ANYONE and for good reason. They would have been called out as the traitors they were and tried for TREASON!

Concealing this information (not hard to do in that day and age given the limited ablities of communication availabe at that time) allowed them 70 years to gradually infilitrate the congress and the judiciary with like minded individuals who feel people are TOO DUMB TO GOVERN themselves. In addition it provided them time to plunder the situation, line thier purses so that they could acquire ownership of the main stream media which insured silence and created a propaganda machine. They engineer events to distract the masses while they impliment their agenda.

Well the "two dumb to govern themselves people" have gained access to the documents as a result of two not so small blessing: The internet and the declassification of documents previously sealed for fifty years. (and for good reason!) The proof is available online in congressional records and other historical documents. That is most of the proof is availabe to day the Senate Committee hearings from 1968 through today have been sealed and are not available for public viewing.

The history with that exception is readily available and is published on line for the entire world to see IF THEY ARE INTERESTED ENOUGH to look for answers which affect not only themselves but their children and their childrens children etc.

A little eye opener not published tid bit for you to consider... the Rockefeller family fortune is estimated to be in excess of $400,000,000.00 Do you know how that was acquired? It was acquired through oil, through war debt and interest paid on a line of credit provided to the NEW government UNITED STATES a muncipal corporation seated in the District of Columbia. I should add here that the line of credit established for the new government in 1935 does not provide provisions for repayment of the principle borrowed. YES you heard me correctly. IT CANNOT BE PAID OFF it is ILLEGAL AS H>>>>>>>.

It is illegal because these fools now operate under the UCC law required of corportations and the idiots passed legislation which requires FULL DISCLOSURE. No covenant is legal or binding without a date of termination. I would assume that would apply to financial contractural agreements.

IF justice coulb be served, I suggest, since the current deficit is owed to the players in this coup de' taunt that Rockefeller et al forfeit the ill gotten gain and it be used to free this nation from the ILLEGAL deficit that is imposed upon it.

Xanadu, that was very eloquently stated. THANK YOU for laying it on the line. I am NOT aware of every detail of the plan, but you nailed it completely in your first paragraph.

You asked... here's the answer.

Bush does NOT want the border closed for many reasons. None the least of which is to continue his agenda of ORCHESTRATING onfrontational events between outraged and frustrated citizens and the illegal aliens. Then he can fully impliment the martial law currently in place and waiting for "the event" so he and his cohorts can proceed to dismantle the United States, melt it into the NAU (North American Union) and PUBLICALLY ANNOUNCE the replacement of our Constitution with the New Constitution of the NAU. What are we going to do about it while under marital law? bye bye sovereign nation. bye bye sovereign citizens hello facism and one world government.

For that is EXACTLY what has been taking place. We are almost at the end of the journey they've taken the world on.

thank You Sherri

Now lets hope our troops go to the Congressional record, copy the document and send it out on their mailing lists and to their representatives. WE DESERVE EXPLANATIONS before they confiscate the National Guard.

Proud of you J..........you listened to me.
Thank you for digging up the proof of what I was saying.

Welcome Popeye and thanks for the article.

Illegal aliens can state they will try anything to get into this country but the laws that are being passed on state levels will ensure that when they do get here there will be no work, no free benefits and no housing for them under the new laws. Because of these new laws they will get here and find nothing thus they will go back to wherever they came from and also spread the word there is nothing here.

XANADU,
RE:Bush does NOT want the border closed for many reasons. None the least of which is to continue his agenda of ORCHESTRATING onfrontational events between outraged and frustrated citizens and the illegal aliens. Then he can fully impliment the martial law currently in place and waiting for "the event" so he and his cohorts can proceed to dismantle the United States, melt it into the NAU (North American Union) and PUBLICALLY ANNOUNCE the replacement of our Constitution with the New Constitution of the NAU. What are we going to do about it while under marital law? bye bye sovereign nation. bye bye sovereign citizens hello facism and one world government.


Good savvy! So Bush is actually using the American citizens and the illegal alien invaders as PATSIES.(just like he used the senate democtars as patsies to pass the senate scamnesty) Okay next comes the wild ash accusations from the "naive theorists" and the Scamnesty sellers.

dxd said

Good savvy! So Bush is actually using the American citizens and the illegal alien invaders as PATSIES.(just like he used the senate democtars as patsies to pass the senate scamnesty) Okay next comes the wild ash accusations from the "naive theorists" and the Scamnesty sellers.

Ya but how effective will they be if this knowledge goes truly public?

I think we need to use this proof and there is more btw to call them out. We need to address the state governors (who know) and the state level legislators (who may or may not know) BEFORE this goes much further.

Originally Posted by xanadu

dxd said

Good savvy! So Bush is actually using the American citizens and the illegal alien invaders as PATSIES.(just like he used the senate democtars as patsies to pass the senate scamnesty) Okay next comes the wild ash accusations from the "naive theorists" and the Scamnesty sellers.

Ya but how effective will they be if this knowledge goes truly public?

I think we need to use this proof and there is more btw to call them out. We need to address the state governors (who know) and the state level legislators (who may or may not know) BEFORE this goes much further.

I agree with you. Whenever I speak to the illegal alien issue I incorporate why this is happening politically. That will of course bring name calling from the brain-dead partisans of both stripes, but so what?