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    Mexico Demands U.S. Allow More Immigration

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    MEXICO CITY (AP) - Diplomats from Mexico and Central America on Monday demanded guest worker programs and the legalization of undocumented migrants in the United States, while criticizing a U.S. proposal for tougher border enforcement.
    Meeting in Mexico's capital, the regional officials pledged to do more to fight migrant trafficking, but indirectly condemned a U.S. bill that would make illegal entry a felony and extend border walls.

    "Migrants, regardless of their migratory status, should not be treated like criminals," they said.

    The countries represented at the meeting—including Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Belize and Panama—created a working group to design a regional policy to avoid migrant abuse and to follow the course of the legislation.

    "There has to be an integrated reform that includes a temporary worker program, but also the regularization of those people who are already living in receptor countries," Mexican Foreign Relations Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said.

    Derbez has called the measure—which passed the U.S. House of Representatives last month but still must go before the Senate—"stupid and underhanded," but was somewhat more restrained on Monday, saying "it's not the Mexican government's position to tell the U.S. Senate what to do."

    The U.S. proposal has caused widespread resentment in Mexico, where some have accused President Vicente Fox's administration of not being assertive enough in opposing it. Fox has called the bill shameful.

    Mexicans working in the United States are a huge source of revenue for Mexico, sending home more than $16 billion in remittances in 2004, Mexico's second largest source of foreign currency after oil exports according to the country's central bank.

    Fox's spokesman, Ruben Aguilar, defended the administration's record on Monday, telling reporters that migration has declined in recent years, though official figures show it remains at historically high levels.

    Aguilar also said migrants "don't emigrate because they lack work, but rather for a series of other reasons, cultural reasons or better living conditions."

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    This is obviously an old article, but even so - I still find this shocking:

    Diplomats from Mexico and Central America on Monday demanded guest worker programs and the legalization of undocumented migrants in the United States, while criticizing a U.S. proposal for tougher border enforcement.

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    Can You Imagine

    What would happen if we went to Mexico or Central America and DEMANDED anything? They need to practice what they preach. Their own immigration laws are far more stringent than ours, and they allegedly enforce them.

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    Welcome, tvlgds,

    What would happen
    ...we'd be jailed.

    Migrants, regardless of their migratory status, should not be treated like criminals," they said.
    Sigh.. as soon as someone chooses to cross our borders illegally, or overstay a visa, AND DOES SO, they break our laws. So, therefore, by definition, they ARE CRIMINALS.

    And MW, you're shocked? Why? I'm sure you're aware by now, that the shrub works for Mexico.
    TIME'S UP!
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    Why should <u>only</u> AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants, have to obey the law?!

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    I don't give a rat's nest what any of these Third World cesspools want. I have no idea why our govt even listens to them.

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    I wish I were a multi-millionaire. I would pay to get 10 thousand AMERICAN CITIZENS down to March on Mexico's capital bilding!

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    I imagine why Mexico and Central American countries are being listened to is that somehow they are pumping money into the campaigns of people they want elected here in the United States. Why else are there so many from northeastern states that are for this immigration bill?? And then the US will pay the medical bills of the illegals since it is against the law for ERs to turn away any patient regardless of ability to pay.

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    Thanks, Curiouspat! I think I'm gonna like it here. Our goobermint has sold us out to Mexico and I, for one, am livid.

    Here's Mexico's immigration policy........buncha fricking hypocrites.


    Mexico's Immigration Law: Let's Try It Here at Home
    by J. Michael Waller

    Posted: 05/08/2006
    Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

    That's too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

    At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve
    our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

    in the country legally;
    have the means to sustain themselves economically;
    not destined to be burdens on society;
    of economic and social benefit to society;
    of good character and have no criminal records; and
    contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
    The law also ensures that:

    immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
    foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
    foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
    foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
    foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
    those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
    Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens -- and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or
    General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country's immigration policy.

    It is an interesting law -- and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a
    crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.

    If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.

    We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

    Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

    Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)
    Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)
    Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)
    The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 3
    Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

    Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
    A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

    A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

    Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

    Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
    Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
    Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

    Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
    Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 11
    Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

    Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

    "A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)
    Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
    Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)
    Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

    A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
    Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)
    All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico's immigration practices versus its American
    immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government's agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.

    Let's call Mexico's bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy. Let's propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico's own law as a model.

    This article was first posted at CenterforSecurityPolicy.org.


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    1. "Mexico's Glass House," Center for Security Policy Occasional Paper, April 3, 2006.

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