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    Most Californians back more deportations; nearly half support travel ban, survey find

    Most Californians back more deportations; nearly half support travel ban, survey finds
    Most Californians back more deportations; nearly half support travel ban, survey finds

    By Gregg Re | Fox News
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    An overwhelming majority of Californians want to deport more illegal immigrants, and nearly half support President Donald Trump's travel ban aimed at reducing terrorism, according to a new survey from the University of California at Berkeley's Haas Institute for a Fair and Inclusive Society.

    But in reporting the findings of the statewide December 2017 survey, the Haas Institute on Wednesday appeared to put a liberal spin on some of the results.

    For example, the headline of its news release reads, "Majority of Californians oppose border wall, support racial inclusion."

    But the actual data say that in California, "66% reject the idea that the U.S.-Mexico border wall is an important immigration policy priority" -- not that they oppose the wall entirely.

    And results also demonstrate that only 54 percent -- or slightly more than half -- of Californians "have positive views of Muslims," and only 51 percent "oppose banning people from majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States."

    Meanwhile, "59% find it important to increase deportations of those here without documentation." Nearly 80 percent, however, support a pathway to citizenship for so-called DREAMers, and "67% think undocumented immigrants should be able to purchase health insurance on the California state exchange."

    The Haas Institute concedes in its news release that "Californians hold some contradictory and troubling views."
    Republican strategist Eric Beach on President Trump's tweet blasting California's sanctuary law.

    Its suggested fix: "[O]utreach and information campaigns anchored in narratives that point Californians towards their shared progressive values and identity."

    But the results show that many Californians already have a sense of identity and values, outreach campaign or not. For example, 45 pecent of Californians said that being Christian is an "important part of being American," and nearly 40 percent don't want to limit law enforcement cooperation with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, according to the survey.

    The survey comes as several California cities and counties back the Trump administration's lawsuit against the state's pro-illegal immigration sanctuary policies.

    "Californians hold some contradictory and troubling views."
    - The Haas Institute for a Fair and Inclusive Society at UC Berkeley

    On Wednesday, California Gov. Jerry Brown announced plans to deploy “up to 400” members of the state's National Guard troops “to combat” criminal activity along the U.S.-Mexico border — after President Donald Trump slammed the Democratic leader a day earlier for “trying to back out” of an earlier pledge to do so.

    Brown issued an order that the National Guard be sent to help “combat criminal gangs, human traffickers and illegal firearm and drug smugglers — within the state, along the coast and at the U.S.-Mexico border.”
    After weeks of negotiating Governor Jerry Brown agrees to send 400 troops along California's border.

    But the governor sent military personnel on the condition that “the California National Guard will not enforce immigration laws or participate in the construction of any new border barrier.”

    Brown's office also said the Trump administration would pick up the tab for the California deployment, the Los Angeles Times reported.

    For his part, Trump tweeted Wednesday that Californians are tiring of their government.

    "There is a Revolution going on in California," he wrote. "Soooo many Sanctuary areas want OUT of this ridiculous, crime infested & breeding concept. Jerry Brown is trying to back out of the National Guard at the Border, but the people of the State are not happy. Want Security & Safety NOW!"

    The complete Haas Institute survey is available by clicking here.


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...vey-finds.html
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    Thank you California! Thank you very very much!

    So nice to see more and more Californians standing up and speaking their minds on our issue.

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    We need to cut off 100% of the freebies!

    No school, no medical care, no welfare, no food stamps, no bank accounts, no jobs, no lawyers, no anchor babies...they are NOT US citizens!

    REPORT ALL EMPLOYERS AND ILLEGAL ALIENS TO ICE!!! FLOOD THEIR PHONE LINES AND WEBSITE.
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    I understand it is California. But I don't understand the 80% favoring a path to citizenship. Unless they are thinking of the path that already exist, applying for it and waiting. But to grant them any legality just because they are already here just invites more of the same.

    But for now, they should be deported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    I understand it is California. But I don't understand the 80% favoring a path to citizenship. Unless they are thinking of the path that already exist, applying for it and waiting. But to grant them any legality just because they are already here just invites more of the same.

    But for now, they should be deported.
    In the DACA DEAL bill that Trump worked up with Grassley in the Senate, it was a 12 year wait for any path to citizenship, they couldn't even apply for citizenship for 12 years and there were a lot of conditions to get there, and this was the one that was changed from the 690,000 to the 1,800,000. In the Goodlatte bill in the House, the one that Trump worked up with them was the 690,000 current DACAs, no pathway to citizenship but 3 year DACA type status with up to 3 renewals, so that is 9-12 years before any next step would even be possible and any next step would require new legislation.

    Trump threatened to veto any bill other than these, and both of these had the wall, interior enforcement, E-Verify or "mandatory employee verification" is what it was called in the Grassley bill, which is what Trump calls it in his 71 point plan, an end to chain migration and visa lottery, more immigration judges, more ICE agents, and 65 or so other fixes to our immigration laws and programs.

    So I don't know which plan Californians were thinking about when they said they supported "pathway to citizenship" for the DACAs or DREAMERS. Probably just a generic support for them to some day be able to become citizens if they were ever allowed to stay.

    Yes, I agree, for now they should just be deported.
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