While doing a search on the author of the article below, I came across an OBL site calling itself "radic@l immigration". I poked around a bit, because as usual, I am just astounded and dumbfounded at why some people think open borders are ok. I came across a comment section on the website and below is a conversation I had with an OBLer. God Bless his liberal bleeding heart!

Im still "chewing" on what to say back to him. I'm trying my best to be polite, but it's hard. There is so much I could expound on to him, in fact, I hardly know where to start, but will it change anything? I doubt it.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... c&p=886390

ME:

Tell me more about your side

Written by on 21-04-2009 15:13

ok, so people have the "right" to live where they choose? If our borders where opened up to Mexico, most mexicans will "choose" to live here in the US. What about our natural resources? They are obviously not in infinite supply. California is facing yet another water shortage. One day, H2o might be more precious than fuel.

What about jobs? Are they in infinite supply? Obviously not-especially now.

What about language and culture that is sovreign to the USA? Don't Americans have the right to preserve that? We are not asking immigrants to forget thiers, but it seems to me that unchecked, unlimited immigration will force ours out of existence though higher birthrates and lack of assimilation.

I'm trying to undertand why anyone would want our borders wide open. If you have an answer-I'd be interested in hearing it.

From where I stand here in California and as a native of this state for nearly 40 years, every person I know in this so called liberal state is against unchecked immigration and illegals being here. We are taxed to death and they are a big reason for it.

OBLer's REPLY

Good Questions
Written by on 21-04-2009 20:30

All good questions. I'll try to answer them.
Will all Mexicans move here if we have open borders?
We have had "open borders" with Puerto Rico for 80 years and about 25% of their population has moved to the USA. Right now about 16% of Mexicans live in the USA. Most people like to stay where they were born.
Natural resources and good jobs are always in limited supply. In the USA we have always allowed the marketplace to decide on the allocation of resources. I don't see why we should change that now.
Language, culture and assimilation are real concerns. I have studied the other great aves of immigration and the system and time seems to take care of it. The Irish, the Jews and the Italians all went through the same issue and came out Americans. What we have is a system that is in the margin better than all of the others at producing opportunity and freedom. People want to be part of it and it is good for all of us if we let them.
"I'm trying to understand why anyone would want our borders wide open." I want our borders wide open for responsible people. We have free trade for goods. We have free flows of capital. And now it is time for the world to have free flows of people. If people could leave North Korea and had a place to go the regime there would collapse in months, just like East Germany collapsed. If the Haitians could come to the US to work there children wouldn't starve. Increased migration is a moral imperative. More customers for a business is a good thing. More fans at a ball game is a good thing. More people moving to the USA is also a good thing. Newcomers who are not hiding in the shadows pay taxes, rent apartments and buy stuff. Immigration is a sign that we are doing things well, that our system work and that the great stew that is the United States is adding another flavor.