Thread: I NEED REAL HELP WITH AN IMMIGRATION PROBLEM!!!!

I have called, faxed, e-mail, and visited INS, ICE, Judith Biggerts/ Dennis Hasserts office, Barak Obama's office, The US Embassy, The US Consolate, the office of Interior Security, Department of Public aid, the IRS, and others. They tell me they are under orders to NOT do anything in these situations.

Please help!!!!

MOD EDIT

I need the OUTLAWS deported.

Welcome to Alipac ShoNuff00007! Can you please explain what you are talking about? Nothing against you but I don't click on newbie links. We really like it if you copy and paste articles with the link to them underneath or you can post your photos.

The first part is describes the scam I have been going through. The second is my personal story. I don't know how to include a picture/image.

-ShoNuff00007

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Author: MOD EDIT
Date: 08-29-06 03:04

I am married to a Chinese woman. I married in China. We have are troubles, culture, language etc. Immigration takes a long time. A friend of mine kind of told me this...

International Marriage Scam

There are several variations. Usually the target, male or female is contacted through mutual desire to meet. Internet!!! Date/Mate sites, magazines, etc.

The target (mark) is then groomed into the con. Takes about 4-9 months. Remember your desires are the catalyst...keep you happy, they ask for items in increments, small additional living cost, accommodations etc then get a commitment to marry. That is what their ad states (looking for marriage), because you think it is a different culture you say they are just very direct, why beat around the bush, its more convenient and "that's what I was on the site for too" The reputation of foreign wives is good. You may have just been hooked, do some further checking, make a weekend trip or visit if possible...feel the situation.

Soft and wonderful emails of new love, soft to the ear, promises of a full and healthy relationship. The mark will be brought into the financial aspect of the con when they take the hook and bait.

It is a long con, could last several years, usually a minimum of 1 to 3 years.

Goals of the con:

1. Financial- to obtain a financial target or goal, increased lifestyle, new homes, condos, autos, bilk the mark for anywhere from 10,000.00 to 100's of thousands of dollars. For use in the home country.

2. Obtain false premised entry into a foreign country through marriage.

3. Ultimately when the top goal is satisfied, to end the relationship, return to the home country, to the original "unmarried" "true" spouse, marry this person, hopefully having not been caught of the fraud, and live the goal lifestyle obtained.

(note) A green card in the U.S. requires at least 3 years of marriage. If you have a kid here together...they can come and go.

If the wedding is fast, hold your wallet and get ready to lose everything. If they determine you are not the wealth mine they were looking for, be ready for a rough ride, they will claim they are unhappy, do almost anything for a divorce early. This ensures there will probably be no property to split. You tried your best but have probably already done good amount of damage to your life savings and or general income.

If love = money...think!

They say if something smells funny, its probably rotten. The fraud is simple, difficult to detect. If you do become suspicious and you ARE married, hire a private detective in the country or city where your spouse is, if your bold go home on a unannounced trip with gifts. If their arms are open of surprise and happiness your probably o.k.

If not, you will know and it could get dangerous, do not stay, fight or argue, have the next flight same day already booked and move on. Recommendation: always use PD agency when possible minimum of 2-3 surveillances over 1-2 months. Get your information. If you are wealthy this could protect prior family, children of previous marriage, your wealth and your sanity. As well as your life!

If you can try to find a way to live there, if they don't want you living there, your probably putting a dent into someone else's...the "true" spouses love/sex life. It significantly raises the possibility of the two of them being caught. In most of these countries, jails and prisons are not good places to be so do not do anything if you catch them, leave. You'll know if something's up. Emotional body and spoken language says volumes, so does your intimacy, pay attention. If you do not feel anything wrong, your probably o.k. have a great marriage and a good life.

If you suspect a scam/fraud, do not contact their local authority, contact your home country immigration authority and State Department after you have left the country.

These persons have played on your heart, hard earned money so it is best to catch the fraud as quickly as possible into the relationship so you can move on...lesson learned.

If any men or women of this forum who have had a similar experience, or suspect you are the mark, take some action before you are left in tears, broken "divorced", "used" goods.
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I hope everyone gets a good and healthy relationship built on honesty, intimacy and life long love. I am very hopeful my new relationship, and I do not see any of the above being applicable to my relationship and I guess that advice is for multiple countries. My wife can be demanding and she does have high expectations, it does create drive for success.

Good luck,
MOD EDIT
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Author: MOD EDIT
Date: 09-10-06 11:07

I am in the final stages of the scam described above. August 9, 2001

After four trips to China, and 16,000 e-mails, I brought MOD EDIT from China, to America and we were married on 6/3/2000. I was very happy to have her.My children from my previous marriage were very excited because I had found someone that I was happy with.

True to the above scam story, no gift that I brought her after this made her happy. I began trying harder, no good. She wanted me to buy her a house, which I did, at a cost of $300,000. She was not happy with the house it was not good enough. She became pregnant in November of 2000. After her parents arrived to help with the pregnancy, she really went wild. Attacking myself, and my daughters from a previous marriage. I was in a custody case before we married to get my daughters out of the projects, and she promised to help. All that nice ear soothing she did went out the door once her parents arrived.

Being caught between the house, the custody case, and the downturn in the job market destroyed my credit, and my finances were devistated.

As soon as her parents arrived-(Just after I purchased the house) she informed me that as soon as the baby is born, she will move out with her parents. They will stay in America. They did not wish to return to China, and I must pay them child support like I am paying my ex-wife. then she changed her mind. She gave me an ultimatum. "Abandon my daughters, keep the $300K house, support her and her parents for the rest of their lives, or leave with nothing".

She has been physically abusive to me and verbally to my all children. She calls them pigs and trash to their face, so I will not bring them over. She has started many fights trying get me arrested. She even brazenly told the police that she was the aggressor. She has told my daughters, our son, and even a marriage counselor that she hates the fact that our son is half-black.

She recently got her green card, and after six years, three different driving schools, and 10 failed attempts, she finally got her drivers license. Then she immediately filed for divorce as she no longer needed me except for the monies that I could provide to support her, and her parents that are in the US Illegally.

Not only is there Visa fraud, but the job market was down so long, that my unemployment ran out. I could not get lesser jobs, as I was "overqualified". So I applied for government assistance. I was told, that I first had to pay back the monies that she had collected. I was surprised, she had told them that she was unemployed, and that I had abandoned her. She said she did not know where I was, even though we were sleeping together every night in the same bed. The problem is that when she started collecting, we were both working and she put down our marital address. She was never prosecuted for this fraud even after it was discovered.

I have called, faxed, mailed, and e-mailed the following departments many times about her parents. DHS/INS, DHS/CICS, DHS/ICE, the Department of Interior Security, the US Embassy in America and China, the US Consulate in America and China, the Westmont Illinois Police, the Illinois Department of Public Aid, etc. They tell me that all have instructions to do NOTHING. To add insult to Injury, I have recently been able to verify that my wife, and her family paid a Chinese organization to walk them through the process of putting Americans in this financial trick bag. The reason they must destroy the American is so when the divorce happens they can take the target for everything he has. While they have been stock piling his money over the years they make sure when they file divorce, he cannot afford a lawyer in his own defense. When the smoke clears they have him paying them for the next 20 years via Child Support and other instruments. They are back in china living off the Americans money. The exchange rate means that for every thousand dollars that target pays, it equals over $8000.00 in China. They only go after targets making good incomes. The worst part is that when I was in her home town of Fuzhou on MAINLAND CHINA before we married, I could not figure out where all of the homeless kids of obvious mixed race were coming from. They were on the streets begging for food. I have been informed that the children are cast off as soon as they return to China. The father is not allowed any access to the child and has no way to legally check on the child. This is the Divorce filing that my wife made. She lied and said that I abandoned her and our son 6 years ago, and she wants to take him to China. I don't want my son abandoned in China, nor do I want these people to raise him.

I need some help in this matter. Can someone please call me and tell me what my options are? I have hung on for 6 years living with her, and her parents. It has taken a toll on me, my daughters, my son, and our finances, and I am tired.

My wife finally filed for divorce directly after getting her green card and drivers license. We are in the courts now, but the courts are not dealing with the above.

As you can guess, Immigration reform is very important to me, as I found in Chinatown in Chicago, a Chinese language newspaper that tells recent immigrants how to get public aid, medicare, medicaid, Social Security, Child Support, and numerous other government funds. [/img]

You need an attorney that specializes in this. I would suggest reporting her to ICE as a marriage scam.

Immigration Resources:
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=C ... age&pid=19

I'm sorry that you are experiencing this.

Dixie

Originally Posted by Dixie

You need an attorney that specializes in this. I would suggest reporting her to ICE as a marriage scam.

Immigration Resources:
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=C ... age&pid=19

I'm sorry that you are experiencing this.

Dixie

I feel sorry for the guy. However it would be hard to prove with them being together for so many years. It will end up being a he said, she said situation. Unfortanely with out proof he is screwed. Now if he could find out if she had done this type of thing before he would have more of a chance.

IMHO

Im no attorney...However they were still together when she applied/received benefits. So within the law I believe they can go after him as well as her.

Its a crappy situation for sure...

I've heard many stories such as this!
This guy should have checked around before he went into such a marriage.
The best advice I can give you is to get a lawyer as Dixie suggested.
You also might try to find a group of men who have been scamed like you and see what they are doing and if nothing else help expose these scams so that others do not fall prey to them as well.
Good luck.
MD

Due to contact, and information from a gentleman on another forum, we were able to find proof that my wife was using a Chinese Illegal Immigration group. The way it works is that they start paying the group in China to help them get an American on the hook. They continue paying the group when they arrive, and the group keeps helping them. They have offices in America to guide them through finishing the job. Our Government has known about these offices for years, but have done nothing.

I have tried to get the parents sent back for 5 years through different government organizations, and I kept getting different excuses. They kept me around because I am a good Chauffer until my wife got her license.

Originally Posted by Mayday

Nothing against you but I don't click on newbie links. We really like it if you copy and paste articles with the link to them underneath or you can post your photos.

As a newbie myself I appreciate this heads up. I was not aware of it and it might be helpful to put this in the Rules for Discussion Groups area.

This is a very common problem that is happening all over the United States.

People like this are generally not interested in Immigration Reform, or fixing the problem, but instead, are more interested in getting vengeance because they made a bad decision and are getting screwed.

I seriously doubt the sincerity of this story.

R/ Skip

Thank you for casting dispersions upon my character without knowing me or my situation. To let you in on a few things. Vengence is not my goal. We are supposedly a nation of laws. As a black man who has been pulled over many times in some areas for DWB, I am acutely aware of this fact. I was also fully aware of our Governments laws, so "legally" I knew what I was getting into in this marriage. I did a lot of research-(So I thought). It is not that I expect America to Change the laws they have in place, I am more offended at the governments choices of when, and how, and against whom they choose to enforce the laws. I was always told that Federal law was the highest in the land. These people came into this country with the knowledge that they were considered above the law and were free to trample on the rights of those who invited them to visit in good faith. The system is broken.

In addition, some my personal friends have been displaced by Illegal immigrants in Illinois especially in the areas of maintenance, and lawn care. My industry, (Information Technology) has been deluged with both legal and illegal immigrants from India. I have found that H1 visa's can have up 100 names on them. I have had a very hard time in recent years because many managers looked at these people as being cheaper per hour than American labor. But I have found that many of them fake their credentials, and it is hard for American IT/HR managers to verify their backgrounds. Sometimes they even have others interview in their stead. The managers find out after a while that the loss of productivity is often far more costly than the money they saved per hour.

I was recently taking to a friend of mine who was bidding on some land. He was outbid by Illegal immigrants who were granted interest free loans from a local bank.

Many illegals come with the idea not of being a part of American society, but sending money, and resources back to their home countries.

IMHO it seems that history is repeating itself. If we are not careful we will suffer the fate of the American Indians. (And they are still pissed)

Now back to my issue. My wife has told many people, friends, and professionals alike, of her disdain for our son. She told the court she wants to take him back to China-(The child support against the exchange rate will give her parents a good living). In her home town on mainland China I was surprised to see many homeless children of mixed decent begging on the streets. I could not figure out how they got there. Now I know. I don't want my son to be one of them. Can you understand that?