Thread: NATIVISTS FAN THE FLAMES OF U.S. IMMIGRATION DEBATE: REUTERS

Nativists fan flames of U.S. immigration debate



File photo shows Mexican flag in Mexico City, November 21, 2006. There is a growing number of nativists from across the United States that have been stepping up direct action in recent months to make a stand on the issues of illegal immigration and border security. The milder end of the spectrum includes the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, who spot for illegal entrants crossing the borders from Mexico and Canada, and councilors in towns and cities from California to Pennsylvania who vote to curb landlords from renting to undocumented immigrants.
(Andrew Winning/Reuters)

By Tim Gaynor
Mon Dec 25, 2:44 PM ET

PHOENIX (Reuters) - Reaching into the back of a truck, U.S. anti-immigration activist Don Pauly grabs a Mexican flag, a can of lighter fuel and an aluminum baking tray and heads to the curbside outside the Mexican consulate.

As a small group of police officers, protesters and puzzled bystanders look on, he douses the green, red and white flag with fuel and spits on it for good measure, while an eye-patch wearing accomplice strikes a match.

"We need to get rid of all those who are destroying our country," Pauly said as the national colors of United States' southern neighbor flamed out on the sidewalk in central Phoenix earlier this month. "We are being invaded."

The founder of the Emigration Party of Nevada is among a growing number of nativists from across the United States that have been stepping up direct action in recent months to make a stand on the issues of illegal immigration and border security.

The milder end of the spectrum includes the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, who spot for illegal entrants crossing the borders from Mexico and Canada, and councilors in towns and cities from California to Pennsylvania who vote to curb landlords from renting to undocumented immigrants.

The wilder fringe stretches from activists who burn Mexican flags -- like Pauly and his eye patch-wearing companion Laine Lawless -- to brutal thugs like a Texan teenager sentenced to 90 years in jail in December for sodomizing a Hispanic youth with a pole.

"We have seen an explosion of these groups, a real prairie fire that has spread across the country in quite an amazing way," said Mark Potok, the director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's intelligence project, which has tracked their rise.

"What's really amazing ... is how vicious this movement has become," he added.

SNIPER TEAMS ON THE BORDER

Nativist activism has been around for centuries in the United States. Some analysts trace it to the gangs who battled newcomers on the streets of New York in the 1800s, while others date it to the Ku Klux Klan's rants against Mexican immigrants in the last century.

All agree that it has mushroomed amid growing security concerns since the September 11 2001 attacks. The Southern Poverty Law Center estimates that there are now more than 140 nativist groups taking direct action on the borders with Mexico and Canada or targeting the 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens living in the United States.

"We are seeing the radicalization of the existing vigilante groups, we're seeing more and more interaction between existing anti-immigration groups and genuinely white supremacist groups, Neo-Nazis and so on, and a rise in hate crimes against Hispanics," said Potok.

Some are quirky and relatively harmless, like Luca Zana, an Italian-American immigrant who uses a truck-mounted sound system to blast the amplified shrieks of wild animals over the Mexico border in a down-home version of psychological warfare to dissuade undocumented migrants from crossing north.

Pauly, meanwhile. is more extreme. In one recent Internet posting he called for Mexican women to be sterilized after the birth of their first child, and wants the U.S. Border Patrol to be transformed into sniper teams with orders to "shoot to kill on sight."

Laine Lawless, the founder of the Arizona-based Border Guardians group, also reaches out to white supremacists online. In one recent e-mail to a Neo-Nazi group, she urged "warriors for the race" to intimidate Spanish-speaking school children, and rob aliens depositing funds in U.S. banks.

The message ended with the brisk rejoinder: "OK now, let's get going!"

OUT OF STEP WITH AMERICA

The Southern Poverty Law Center sees the soaring number of nativist groups weighing into the immigration debate, and the coarsening of their discourse into openly racist rhetoric sprinkled with calls for violence, as cause enough for alarm.

However, analysts caution that the groups are small and increasingly out of step with mainstream Americans, who elected a Democratic Congress on November 7 that promises a comprehensive approach to immigration combining tough enforcement with incentives for newcomers.

"The (nativists) show up at town meetings, they call talk radio shows and some of them even engage in acts of violence, but the elections are the ultimate poll," said Frank Sharry, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum think tank in Washington.

"It was very clear ... those who want a solution that is comprehensive in nature have ... more support than those who have hard-line views and hold them with tremendous passion," he told Reuters.

The distance between the new nativist radicals and more moderate opinion was stark at the recent flag burning outside the Mexican consulate in central Phoenix.

Lawless and Pauly had hoped for 500 supporters, but only half a dozen showed up. They were soon shouted down as "Nazis" and "racist nuts" by protesters and bystanders, leaving the two activists crestfallen and alone on the sidewalk.

"I can't imagine why more people didn't come," Lawless told Reuters with a look of bewilderment beneath her theatrical eye patch. "Where are they all?"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061225/lf_ ... eatue_dc_2

There they go again!

Is nativist a bad word? Doesn't having immigration laws presuppose that Americans have a right to be nativist and protect ourselves? Doesn't every sovereign nation have a right to favor the peoples of its' land? Immigration laws place limits on the numbers of foreign nationals from different cultures precisely so that we don't undergo aculturation. However, allowing an invasion is the problem here, not immigration. Immigration is a controlled legal process of safeguards. I can't blame my fellow Americans for saying no to invasion.

"Nativist" is not a synonym for racist, extremist, Nazi or any of the negative connotations Reuters tries to give it here. Nativists reject the idea that we should allow illegals to swarm into the country in unlimited numbers.

Don't alow the OBL to corrupt OUR language. Be a nativist.

nativism
One entry found for nativism.
Main Entry: na·tiv·ism
Pronunciation: 'nA-ti-"vi-z&m
Function: noun
1 : a policy of favoring native inhabitants as opposed to immigrants
2 : the revival or perpetuation of an indigenous culture especially in opposition to acculturation
- na·tiv·ist /-vist/ noun or adjective
- na·tiv·is·tic /"nA-ti-'vis-tik/ adjective

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/nativist

I guess they are also attempting to change the meanings of the English language. As always in their favor.

Originally Posted by swatchick

I guess they are also attempting to change the meanings of the English language. As always in their favor.

Yeah. Nation. National identity. Borders. Sovereignty. All bad stuff to the OBL. They play the same games as the commies. Change the meanings. Make good sound bad.

Here the SLPC goes making it sound as though we are ALL extremists with complete racist ideals.

Love how they do that, sure helps them in their "kill America" stance.

Well one good thing about these kinds of stories, I am finding many people I know do not even give these liberal stories a second glance, and all too many I know, are smart enough to know the difference between someone who wants illegal immigration stopped, and one who hates all outside their race. There is a huge gap there.

Here the SLPC goes making it sound as though we are ALL extremists with complete racist ideals.

Love how they do that, sure helps them in their "kill America" stance.

Was it this?


SNIPER TEAMS ON THE BORDER

OUT OF STEP WITH AMERICA

The wilder fringe stretches from activists who burn Mexican flags -- like Pauly and his eye patch-wearing companion Laine Lawless -- to brutal thugs like a Texan teenager sentenced to 90 years in jail in December for sodomizing a Hispanic youth with a pole.

Wait just a minute! What that teenager did has nothing to do with eliminating illegal immigration in this country and I am really upset about this reporter making this connection to people that want immigration laws enforced.

Oh we need to complain about that statement. How dare that reporter compare a flag burner to someone that attacked another individual, while verbalizing racial slurs.

There is a big difference between freedom of speech and a hate crime.

Dixie

The media reporters almost always feel sorry for them and tries to make us look bad. They don't care about us and really get angry when our side calls them up and tells them the truth. It's like they don;t want to talk to you. One female reporter wrote an article that I previously posted about a family wanting to be picked and fighting deportation as they could possibly stay. The reporter wrote that they had over stayed their work visas and now were working here illegally. They have 4 kids, a house with a backyard large enough for a soccer field and how the one child has a medical condition. I called her and asked her why she didn't write that because all 4 kids are anchor babies we the taxpayers paid for their birth and that those kids can get welfare. The parents have guaranteed income for the mortgage on that house and what American family has that? She was angry and told me that she had gotten calls like mine all day. I told her that she should look at our side as well and then she may understand why we feel as we do about illegals.

Go to Reuters site and find the contact list.....you can email this reporter through here.

I already did, and Pelosi, Reid, Bush, McConnell, Geoff Davis...

This reporter and other media's as well as any politician that is called us
"names". Should be sued for defamation!