Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 21

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #11
    Senior Member jp_48504's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    19,168
    Thanks for the link Betsy. This has been a concern of Mine for a long time.
    I stay current on Americans for Legal Immigration PAC's fight to Secure Our Border and Send Illegals Home via E-mail Alerts (CLICK HERE TO SIGN UP)

  2. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    2,457
    Xanadu, you are right. There is no SS "lock box" that is held in reserve to pay SS benefits. The government has already spent those dollars on anything else they have wanted, including the war in Iraq. Therefore, in order to continue to pay out these benefits, they are dependent on future tax dollars. And you're also right - there have been numerous articles lately from people who understand this situation who say the national debt is not something we can pay off. So where the hell does that leave us?

    Our political leaders, past and present, and their accomplices, the globalelites and Federal Reserve bankers, are responsible for this disaster either through postponing being honest with the public and dealing with it, or even through their personal ccorruption.

    Interesting too that there was an article here a week or two ago that quoted an elderly member of the FR who admitted that the manipulations of the FR had been responsible for the stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing Great Depression.

  3. #13
    Senior Member BetsyRoss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    5,262
    And isn't that one of the 'reasons' given for why we supposedly have to import all these workers? So they pay into social security? It adds credence though, to our (speaking as a baby boomer here) desire to go on working and not be forced out due to age discrimination or competition from younger, lower-paid workers.
    Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

  4. #14
    Senior Member xanadu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    958
    Interesting too that there was an article here a week or two ago that quoted an elderly member of the FR who admitted that the manipulations of the FR had been responsible for the stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing Great Depression.
    Kate did you keep a link to that article? I would love to have it to convince some of the ostrichs I run into.

    Thanks
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

  5. #15
    socalcracker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Posts
    115
    I liked reading your writeup, since I've been asking the same
    questions. I couldn't imagine why the Federal Reserve
    (ie, intl bankers) would want to shoot themselves in the foot and
    lose money. One of the things I came up with, is maybe they
    have "their money" in euros. But I suspect they have their
    "profits" diversified, somehow hedged, so that they make
    money no matter what happens. However, the bets are probably
    against the dollar, particularly, when they are "controlling"
    the elites and politicians to push for more low skilled illegals,
    more controlled visas, and more outsourcing.

    I suspect they have
    figured out ways for the 77 million retiring boomers to pay for
    the govt sponsored freebies (current and future). For example,
    I have two lifetime employer sponsored heath plan benefits.
    This year, BOTH companies changed to Consumer Driven plans
    where now I have to pay high deductibles before insurance kicks
    in. The government specifies the deductible amounts to the
    employers. (Sounds like socialism to me.)

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a huge VAT tax implemented
    someday, which would tax the illegals when they spend. I also
    read, someplace, to be careful when you pay off your house.
    You may think you own it, but there is some clause that says
    something about the ability to take your house to pay off
    govt dept (unless you have some sort of clause from the bank
    when you pay off your house--a clause that banks don't like to give.)

    I, too, would like to know what others think it REALLY going on.

  6. #16
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    2,457
    Xanadu, I tried to search but could not find the exact article, however, I did find these that may be of interest-


    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=53413

    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... depression

    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ssion+1929

  7. #17
    Senior Member xanadu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    958
    I also
    read, someplace, to be careful when you pay off your house.
    You may think you own it, but there is some clause that says
    something about the ability to take your house to pay off
    govt dept (unless you have some sort of clause from the bank
    when you pay off your house--a clause that banks don't like to give.)
    Thanks Socalcracker every little bit of information adds one more piece to the puzzle. I'm gonna see what I can track down on that.

    I was waiting for them to say the paid property was in fact a lifetime lease...hence no ownership when someone came confiscate it.

    I've thought that because of the 1933 bankruptcy, the fact that our infrastructure is being sold like a bankruptcy proceeding and the fact that there needs to be a sovereignty certification??? !!!! For what purpose I ask and got no answer. I've written, faxed and called Grassley on this subject for months and zero response.

    sigh well it seems our grandparents, parents and ourselves have been the patsies of the world in many ways and many wars. ::FROWN::

    Kate Thank you! I'm off to investigate them now.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

  8. #18
    Senior Member mkfarnam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Oklahoma (formerly So, California)
    Posts
    4,208
    In California, and some other states (Keno <V> Conneticut), property rights have been dwindling like dead flies. Properties have been bought up with "Eminent Domain" and sold to private parties, like investers and developer, instead of "public use".
    ------------------------

  9. #19
    Senior Member xanadu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    958
    Properties have been bought up with "Eminent Domain" and sold to private parties, like investers and developer, instead of "public use".
    Iowa moved fast to clarify their language regarding eminent domain and restrict it to public use but I wonder just how that will hold water against the confiscation of property by the debtors the federal government has obligated us to. In another thread someone mentioned clauses in mortgages in relationship to being paid in full and ownership of the property. I'm gonna check on that within the next few days and will share what I find out. I suspect that the clause is standard in all mortgages and has been since 1933 :FROWN:

    This is important in that the massive REAL debt accumulated by this insanity in Washington is unpayable and provides an excuse to the people why their property is gone without ever having to open up the history and admitt it was stolen from the People of this nation 90 years ago. Most people will be upset no make that livid but they will be so panicked they will not think to find out the historical truth of the events.

    This entire section of history in the making just gets uglier and uglier and uglier. Reality is a b.....ch.

    Which reminds me of an appropriate quotation. James Baldwin "Those who refuse to accept reality, participate in their own demise." He might have said destruction the quote was off the top of my empty head.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

  10. #20
    Senior Member mkfarnam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Oklahoma (formerly So, California)
    Posts
    4,208
    I posted on another thread about "UCC1" ( Uniform Commercial Code)
    Where any one can register or transfer their property, (including your vihicle) with UCC1 and if the Gov, tries to take it with Eminent Domain they have to pay you the price that you set, not just "fair Market".
    ------------------------

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •