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12-25-2006, 12:18 PM #11
Thanks for the link Betsy. This has been a concern of Mine for a long time.
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12-25-2006, 01:30 PM #12
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Xanadu, you are right. There is no SS "lock box" that is held in reserve to pay SS benefits. The government has already spent those dollars on anything else they have wanted, including the war in Iraq. Therefore, in order to continue to pay out these benefits, they are dependent on future tax dollars. And you're also right - there have been numerous articles lately from people who understand this situation who say the national debt is not something we can pay off. So where the hell does that leave us?
Our political leaders, past and present, and their accomplices, the globalelites and Federal Reserve bankers, are responsible for this disaster either through postponing being honest with the public and dealing with it, or even through their personal ccorruption.
Interesting too that there was an article here a week or two ago that quoted an elderly member of the FR who admitted that the manipulations of the FR had been responsible for the stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing Great Depression.
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12-25-2006, 01:43 PM #13
And isn't that one of the 'reasons' given for why we supposedly have to import all these workers? So they pay into social security? It adds credence though, to our (speaking as a baby boomer here) desire to go on working and not be forced out due to age discrimination or competition from younger, lower-paid workers.
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12-25-2006, 01:54 PM #14Interesting too that there was an article here a week or two ago that quoted an elderly member of the FR who admitted that the manipulations of the FR had been responsible for the stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing Great Depression.
Thanks"Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)
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12-25-2006, 05:27 PM #15
I liked reading your writeup, since I've been asking the same
questions. I couldn't imagine why the Federal Reserve
(ie, intl bankers) would want to shoot themselves in the foot and
lose money. One of the things I came up with, is maybe they
have "their money" in euros. But I suspect they have their
"profits" diversified, somehow hedged, so that they make
money no matter what happens. However, the bets are probably
against the dollar, particularly, when they are "controlling"
the elites and politicians to push for more low skilled illegals,
more controlled visas, and more outsourcing.
I suspect they have
figured out ways for the 77 million retiring boomers to pay for
the govt sponsored freebies (current and future). For example,
I have two lifetime employer sponsored heath plan benefits.
This year, BOTH companies changed to Consumer Driven plans
where now I have to pay high deductibles before insurance kicks
in. The government specifies the deductible amounts to the
employers. (Sounds like socialism to me.)
I wouldn't be surprised to see a huge VAT tax implemented
someday, which would tax the illegals when they spend. I also
read, someplace, to be careful when you pay off your house.
You may think you own it, but there is some clause that says
something about the ability to take your house to pay off
govt dept (unless you have some sort of clause from the bank
when you pay off your house--a clause that banks don't like to give.)
I, too, would like to know what others think it REALLY going on.
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12-25-2006, 06:14 PM #16
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Xanadu, I tried to search but could not find the exact article, however, I did find these that may be of interest-
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=53413
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... depression
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ssion+1929
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12-25-2006, 06:58 PM #17I also
read, someplace, to be careful when you pay off your house.
You may think you own it, but there is some clause that says
something about the ability to take your house to pay off
govt dept (unless you have some sort of clause from the bank
when you pay off your house--a clause that banks don't like to give.)
I was waiting for them to say the paid property was in fact a lifetime lease...hence no ownership when someone came confiscate it.
I've thought that because of the 1933 bankruptcy, the fact that our infrastructure is being sold like a bankruptcy proceeding and the fact that there needs to be a sovereignty certification??? !!!! For what purpose I ask and got no answer. I've written, faxed and called Grassley on this subject for months and zero response.
sigh well it seems our grandparents, parents and ourselves have been the patsies of the world in many ways and many wars. ::FROWN::
Kate Thank you! I'm off to investigate them now."Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)
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12-25-2006, 07:09 PM #18
In California, and some other states (Keno <V> Conneticut), property rights have been dwindling like dead flies. Properties have been bought up with "Eminent Domain" and sold to private parties, like investers and developer, instead of "public use".
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12-25-2006, 08:06 PM #19Properties have been bought up with "Eminent Domain" and sold to private parties, like investers and developer, instead of "public use".
This is important in that the massive REAL debt accumulated by this insanity in Washington is unpayable and provides an excuse to the people why their property is gone without ever having to open up the history and admitt it was stolen from the People of this nation 90 years ago. Most people will be upset no make that livid but they will be so panicked they will not think to find out the historical truth of the events.
This entire section of history in the making just gets uglier and uglier and uglier. Reality is a b.....ch.
Which reminds me of an appropriate quotation. James Baldwin "Those who refuse to accept reality, participate in their own demise." He might have said destruction the quote was off the top of my empty head."Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)
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12-25-2006, 08:45 PM #20
I posted on another thread about "UCC1" ( Uniform Commercial Code)
Where any one can register or transfer their property, (including your vihicle) with UCC1 and if the Gov, tries to take it with Eminent Domain they have to pay you the price that you set, not just "fair Market".------------------------
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