Thread: THIS IS NOT GOOD!

Basically, this is a great treason from the very top down. I have never heard of any officials in any country that so blatantly disregard the will of the people who elect them there in the first place. What's insane about this - the fellows on top are acting like this is their birthright - to do as they please...and ignore the implied trust and expectation of responsibility bestowed upon them by their constituents. Frist for president, is he dellusional...? McCain....a joke. What's interesting here, most of these fellows are filthy rich...and don't really care, since they don't live in the real world...All this will do is make them richer, whether they are president, senator...etc. or not. Yes, maybe we should start agitating for the new party, American party...and not the current party of the privilleged chronies, not the party that has divorced the very folks that once looked up to them.

This is different than any other immigration this country has seen. This is invasion. Buchanan actually has it right...Never in the history of the US has there been a direct threat of undermining its core culture...who ever thought of singing the anthem in anything but English. This language is what we have in common...my ancestors didn't speak English, and had no problems with this. Instead, they embraced it. Immigration laws were in place so the country could absorb the new immigrants and teach them the American way. This on the other hand is invasion by folks who want to teach us a lesson on our own turf. They are trying to make us foreigners in our own land and they want us to like it. There are even numerous claims that this is their land...I don't recall bunch of Aztecs ever living in this area. Maybe, other tribes, if one will, but not the entire Latin America. It makes one wonder, what is it that unites them...Love for America or hatred towards us...Besides, as is well known, current day Hungarians originally came from Asia...Does this mean they should go back to Mongolia...Americans are on their land and should fight for it...or have they forgotten how...This is a slap to all legal native born and legal immigrans who have obided by the rules and often were not able to immigrate. Trust me, many of them were 10 times more qualified than many of the current TB resistant carriers coming from down under. AMERICANS WILL EITHER STAND THEIR GROUND THIS TIME AROUND OR THEY CAN FORGET ABOUT AMERICA THEY LOVE AND HAVE FOUGHT SO HARD IN THE PAST TO PRESERVE...DE FACTO CREATING "THE LURE" FOR MANY OTHERS TO COME HERE. THIS WAS POSSIBLE ONLY BY ADHERING TO ITS LAWS. IF THIS GOES THROUGH, IT WON'T BE BROKEN IMMIGRATION, IT WILL BE BROKEN AMERICA. IF THIS IS PUSHED DOWN ON AMERICANS THEN LOGIC COMMANDS THAT THEY WERE NOT VIGILANT OR PATRIOTIC ENOUGH AND DESERVE THE FAITH THAT SOMEBODY ELSE PASSES ON THEM, AS THEY WOULD NOT BE IN CONTROL ANYMORE.

This isn't good either:


The Battle of San Bernardino: La Raza vows to defeat racist initiative

by Hector Carreon

La Voz de Aztlan

http://www.aztlan.net/battle_of_san_bernardino.htm

"Riverside, Alta California - May 10, 2006 - (ACN) San Bernardino, a city located 55 miles directly east of Los Angeles, has a racist history of attempting to evict persons of Mexican descent. Six years ago, the city forcefully relocated Mr. Valente Duran and his family from their home to an EZ-8 Motel room . When Mr. Duran complained about his treatment by the city to the local newspaper, City Attorney James F. Penman sent him an official letter with an offer. Penman wrote, "we want to give you the option of . . . accepting our offer to arrange and pay for transportation for you and your family, one way, to Mexico. "

Today, it looks like the attitude demonstrated by City Attorney Penman, has infected a larger number of the city's residents . . . 2217 to be exact. This is the number that signed a racist initiative that will essentially and indirectly evict, from the city, undocumented immigrants, mostly from Mexico. The initiative, if it becomes law, either through City Council approval or a city wide vote, would, among other things, criminalize and fine any landlord that rents to an undocumented immigrant.

The leader of the initiative is the bigot Joe Turner of SOS fame. SOS is the same organization that fomented violence last year in the City of Baldwin Park when they failed to force the removal of a city sponsored monument honoring the region's Mexican and Indigenous heritage. Joe Turner brought in about 20 demonstrators , mostly senior citizens, on May 14, 2005 to the site of the monument and were met by a large number of counter demonstrators. During the tumultuous incident, one 68 year old lady wearing a "Minuteman" t-shirt appeared to suffer a heat stroke, according to news sources and witnesses, and was taken away in an ambulance. The elderly woman alleges that she was hit by a plastic water bottle on the head. The racist Joe Turner was later arrested by the Glendale Police Department.

The mean spirited anti-immigrant initiative has been filed with the City Clerk and now the City Council must approved it or put it to a city wide referendum. The seven member City Council will consider the initiative on Monday May 15, 2006 at 3;00 PM in a meeting that will be attended by a large number of pro-immigrant right groups. In a National Alliance for Human Rights (NAHR) meeting last night in Riverside, the group vowed to defeat the initiative. Professor Armando Navarro, National Coordinator of NAHR, personally pledged a massive effort to defeat the measure. Dr. Navarro said, "San Bernardino will see a mobilization like never in its history." He added, "This is going to be our Montgomery for the new civil-rights movement ."

The Joe Turner initiative also goes after a favorite target of SOS. which are day laborers or "jornaleros" that seek work at hardware stores like Home Depots. The initiative will empower the city police to confiscate the vehicles of anyone picking up for work a day laborer.

The measure will in addition punish any business that aids undocumented immigrants and attempts to establish an "English Only" law in the city. Though the measure will probably be declared unconstitutional if passed, a dim possibility where over 50% of the 200,000 population is Latino, it must never-the-less be totally smashed at the bud to send out a clear message to all xenophobes, nativists, bigots and racists.

Monday, May 15, 2006 will be a day like no other in the history of the city. It will be the first skirmish in "The Battle of San Bernardino". The skirmish will be at the San Bernardino City Hall located at 300 N "D" Street. It will take place at 3:00 P.M."

I'm wondering if this story is correct? I haven't heard a word about this anywhere else, not on cnn or bill riley and I have not received an email from numbersusa. I think someone has got the story wrong.

Originally Posted by sawdust

I'm wondering if this story is correct? I haven't heard a word about this anywhere else, not on cnn or bill riley and I have not received an email from numbersusa. I think someone has got the story wrong.

Iwas just checking the Drudge Report. There is nothing there and he usually the first to report on breaking news.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStor ... SFeeds0312

Senators Agree to Revive Immigration Bill
Senate Leaders Reach Deal to Revive Immigration Reform Legislation Before Memorial Day

Senate leaders reached a deal Thursday on reviving a broad immigration bill that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens and said they'll try to pass it before Memorial Day. (AP Graphic)

WASHINGTON May 11, 2006 (AP)— Senate leaders reached a deal Thursday on reviving a broad immigration bill that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens and said they'll try to pass it before Memorial Day.

The agreement brokered by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., breaks a political stalemate that has lingered for weeks while immigrants and their supporters held rallies, boycotts and protests to push for action.

"We congratulate the Senate on reaching agreement and we look forward to passage of a bill prior to Memorial Day," said Dana Perino, deputy White House press secretary.

Key to the agreement is who will be negotiating a compromise with the House, which last December passed an enforcement-only bill that would subject the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States to felony charges as well as deportation.

Frist said the Senate will send 14 Republicans and 12 Democrats to negotiate with the House, with seven of the Republicans and five Democrats coming from the Judiciary Committee. The remaining seven Republicans will be chosen by Frist and remaining seven Democrats chosen by Reid.

At least one oppoenent of the compromise measure, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, will be among the remaining seven Republicans appointed to the committee, spokesman Don Stewart said.

Frist said a "considerable" number of amendments would be debated when the Senate begins debating the bill early next week.

It would be the most comprehensive rewrite of immigration laws since the so-called Simpson-Mazzoli bill some 20 years ago.

Reid acknowledged on the Senate floor Thursday morning that he "didn't get everything that I wanted" in the agreement, but said Frist didn't either. Reaching the agreement is "not easy with the political atmosphere," Reid said.

Reid had been taking some criticism for refusing to move forward on the bill after complaining that Republicans were trying to undermine it with amendments and insisting that Democrats be allowed to have a say in who serves on the conference committee.

The U.S. Capitol Building, front, the Russell Senate Office Building, center, and Union Station, rear, are seen in this photo illustration. Senate leaders reached a deal Thursday on reviving a broad immigration bill that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens and said they'll try to pass it before Memorial Day. (AP Graphic)

Republicans, too, have had opposition from conservatives to the compromise proposal. These critics consider its path to citizenship provision for illegal immigrants and hundreds of thousands of future guest workers to be tantamount to "amnesty."

They've also had to contend with fallout from opposition to the House bill that triggered nationwide protests that drew hundreds of thousands in Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas and hundreds more in other cities and small communities.

Presidential and midyear politics have been a subtext to the immigration debate. Frist and Arizona Sen. John McCain, one of the architects of the legalization proposal, are prominent in speculation for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.

The compromise bill the Senate will consider builds on legislation approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee 12-6, with four Republicans voting with Democrats to approve the measure.

That measure absorbed a bill drafted by McCain and Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., that called for allowing illegal immigrants to work toward becoming legal permanent residents.

President Bush had helped accelerate progress on the bill after meeting with a bipartisan group of senators last month and stating clearer support for allowing illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

"Business and labor, Democrats and Republicans, religious leaders and the American people strongly support our plan to strengthen borders, provide a path to earned citizenship for those undocumented workers who are here and put in place a realistic guest worker program for the future," Kennedy said.

So I guess this 'pick and choose' from the juducial committee for members on the democratic and republican sides will exclude anyone who is AGAINST AMNESTY! This is not what I consider fair, and "FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE"! What happened to that concept along the way? This is outrageous. I've already called Frist's office but the aide wouldnt answer my questions. I called our friend Senator Sessions, but his aide didnt hear of anything and said they would have put out a statement. She also said that Senator Sessions is completely against ANY FORM OF AMNESTY. Well I guess he wont be picked to sit in on that session. Ha! What country are we living in?

Damn , i just knew it.... I have gotten replys from less than a quarter of the emails I have sent. I knew they were not reading any of them, damn.

I sent letters to the entire judicial committee and did not get one response. Yet they are putting some of them on the vote for immigration reform that they will be working on the next two weeks. They voted for giving them all amnesty, what is our government nuts?

Reply from Sen Mikulski...sounds like amnesty to me...

Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXX:



Thank you for contacting me about immigration and the current debate about immigration reform. I appreciate hearing from you about this issue.



First and foremost, I want you to know that I believe our nation's immigration system is broken. Millions of people try to enter America illegally each year. At the same time, at least 11 million illegal immigrants live in the shadows of American society.



I believe that we need to protect America 's borders. This means providing more resources to increase border security. It means tougher penalties on employers who hire illegal workers. I also don't believe that we should offer amnesty to illegal immigrants who are currently in the country.



Yet, it is entirely unrealistic to think we can round up and deport the over 11 million illegal immigrants who are currently living in the United States . This would waste resources without solving the problem of illegal immigration.



We need a solution to the immigration problem that is tough and fair. We need illegal immigrants to come out of the shadows and register with the U.S. government. We also need to create an orderly system to control the flow of immigrants while respecting human dignity. Immigrants who work hard and play by the rules should be able to get on a path to U.S. citizenship. These immigrants should pay their taxes, learn English, and not have criminal records. They also have to go to the back of the line, and should not be able to earn citizenship quicker than anyone who followed the current process. This path to citizenship means that immigrants will have to work hard, prove that they want to become Americans and earn their citizenship.



I also want you to know that I am working on sensible bipartisan solutions to fix our legal immigration programs. For example, I have been working with a bipartisan group of Senators from states around the country that rely on temporary and seasonal immigrant workers to reform the H-2B visa program. In Maryland , many of our seafood companies cannot find enough workers and these shortages threaten to close businesses and destroy American jobs. I want to see good guy small businesses, that play by the rules and follow the law, have the opportunity to employ legal immigrant workers. Continuing a practical legal immigrant worker program that rewards those who play by the rules is one of my primary goals as the Senate continues to debate immigration reform.



I believe that immigration reform should be bipartisan. I will continue to work on finding sensible, bipartisan solutions to fix the immigration system. Your views on immigration will be useful to me as the Senate continues to debate this issue.



Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance to you in the future.




Sincerely,
Barbara A. Mikulski
United States Senator


P.S. If I can be of further assistance in the future,
please visit my website at http://mikulski.senate.gov
or call my Washington D.C. office at 202-224-4654

Look guys,
they don't always send replies, especially if you're not a constituent.

HOWEVER, LOL........they always know when they're being bombarded either negatively or positively!

Don't fret cause they know exactly what's going on. They hope to discourage us BY IGNORING IT. Ain't gonna work this time

Just keep calling/emailing/faxing!

Lock n Load cause this is going to be one heck of a ride!!