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05-25-2007, 08:15 AM #1
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NY Times/CBS Poll: 69% Want Illegals Prosecuted & Deport
Latest NY Times/CBS Poll: 69% Want Illegal Aliens Prosecuted and Deported
When asked in a new poll by New York Times/CBS News, should illegal immigrants be prosecuted and deported for being in the U.S. illegally, or shouldn't they? The response was staggering: 69% said they should be prosecuted and deported. The nationwide telephone poll did not ask respondents about the immigration bill itself, but there were questions about its most significant provisions. It was conducted May 18 to 23 with 1,125 adults, and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/p ... 25poll.pdf
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05-25-2007, 08:17 AM #2
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Our Analysis of Latest NY Times/CBS News Poll Claims
http://idexer.com/2007/05/24/our-analys ... laims.html
New York Times claims a "large majority of Americans want to change the immigration laws to allow illegal immigrants to gain legal status and to create a new guest worker program to meet future labor demands, the poll found." However, reading between the lines of the results suggest otherwise.
Question number 61 (that's a lot of prior questions asked), asked: "If you had to choose, what do you think should happen to most illegal immigrants who have lived and worked in the United States for at least two years: They should be given a chance to keep their jobs and eventually apply for legal status, OR They should be deported back to their native country?"
According to this monster Times/CBS poll, 62% said give them a chance to apply for legal status. However, what is this question really asking? It is asking if illegal immigrants should be given a "chance" to apply for "legal status," and not a path towards citizenship. In essence, the poll is avoiding any suggestion that immigrants could also obtain citizenship.
More interesting is question number 8 that came long before question number 61: "Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the issue of immigration?"
Sixty percent disapproved, while 27% approved. What is strange is Bush's core stance on the issue is to grant a path towards eventual citizenship of those here illegally now. What is it these respondents disapprove of then, path towards citizenship?
And the poll gets even more bizarre and contradicting when respondents were asked question number 74: "Should illegal immigrants be prosecuted and deported for being in the U.S. illegally, or shouldn't they?"
The response was significant; 69% said illegals should be prosecuted while 24% said they should not. This overwhelming response renders the response to question number 61 as meaningless. How do these respondents expect illegal immigrants to "keep their jobs and eventually apply for legal status" when they are equally expected to be "prosecuted" and "deported"?
The answer is how question number 61 is constructed. The reality of this poll is that significant number or respondents really want illegal aliens deported while also favoring a strict guest worker policy. Question number 69 asked: "Would you favor or oppose a program allowing people from other countries to be guest workers in the U.S. for a temporary period of time, and then be required to return to their home country?"
This approach was favored by 66% of respondents.
Such broadly constructed polls attempt to measure broad views that end up conflicting with each other, and these conflicts become magnified by poorly constructed questions. The pollsters recognize this as evidenced by the hidden fine print:
"In addition to sampling error, the practical difficulties of conducting any survey of public opinion may introduce other sources of error into the poll. Variation in the wording and order of questions, for example, may lead to somewhat different results."
If you are the New York’s Times, it is these "somewhat different results" that allow them to pick-and-choose different results that favor some pre-established bias.
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05-25-2007, 05:28 PM #3
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I posted the whole article this morning before I went off to work , however before leaving the house I was sure to write to Julia Preston and tell her how her in-house polling data was in stark contrast to what the rest of the country was really saying. then I did some research on her and guess what...........Pro illegal all the way.
So instead of her being an honest journalist, she uses the left leaning NY Times as a pulpit to spread her pro illegal views. She might have fooled her subscribers, however America is speaking loud and clear.
Illegals go home........Lock down the borders and enforce our laws.<div>They aren't undocumented workers, or immigrants. They are illegal aliens!</div>
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05-25-2007, 05:47 PM #4
CBS / NYT poll..
Both organizations are PRO ILLEGAL..
YEA I TOTALLY TRUST YOUR POLLS..
this poll isnt worth the bandwidth/paper it was printed on..
here I can make a poll too..
70% want our laws enforced..
hell, that can be the headline as well..
bury this stupid poll... nothing but nonsence..
i wonder if they asked the question in english or spanish
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05-25-2007, 05:55 PM #5
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Kate,
That's not the way they posted it in their online newspaper today--it was the opposite!
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05-25-2007, 06:33 PM #6
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Excellent synopsis from idexer
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05-25-2007, 08:43 PM #7AprilGuest
mike2345! Glad to have you with us!
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05-25-2007, 09:28 PM #8
WELCOME Mike2345, thanks for join in at ALIPAC hope you going to stay around and help out to try and save our nation!!
Seems like NYT is having a hard time figuring out whose side to be on, surpriseing since we all know how liberal they are. Thats because this is not a left... right issue it is an American citizen against illegal alien issue!
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05-25-2007, 10:30 PM #9
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Quiz time:
What do biased polls with predictable outcomes, amnesty, CBS, and left newspapers like the NYTimes have in common??
George Soros"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." Patrick Henry
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