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    Obama Blames U.S., Repeats 90% Gun Lie In Mexico

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    Guns To Mexico: Once again blaming his own country for Mexico's gun violence without mentioning Fast and Furious, the gun runner in chief pledges to find and jail gun smugglers. Perhaps he should start with his own administration.

    'We recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States. ... We'll keep increasing the pressure on the gun traffickers who bring illegal guns into Mexico, and we'll keep putting these criminals where they belong — behind bars," President Obama told students assembled at the Anthropology Museum in Mexico City on Friday, repeating a big lie he's said before.

    Obama did not mention Fast and Furious, the administration's gunrunning operation into Mexico, which started in the fall of 2009 and ended in December 2010 only after Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered in Arizona with one of the weapons we provided to the Mexican drug cartels.

    Immigration Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata was also killed by Fast and Furious weapons, as have been hundreds of Mexican nationals.

    The alleged purpose of the program was to track the guns along their path into Mexico and arrest the dealers, straw buyers and drug cartel members involved.

    But testimony by ATF agents that they were ordered not to interdict the flow or make arrests exposed that rationale as a fraud.

    We and others have suggested the purpose was to let the guns walk, let violence caused by this weapons spiral out of control, then exploit the carnage and violence to advance the president's gun control agenda, just as the president tried to do Friday by repeating his big lie.

    Here's what House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa told the NRA's mid-April national convention in St. Louis in April 2012:

    "Could it be that what they really were thinking of was, in fact, to use this — this walking of guns — in order to promote an assault-weapons ban? Many think so, and they haven't come up with an explanation that would cause any of us not to agree."

    On April 16, 2009, just eight months before Terry's murder, Obama said during a visit to Mexico:

    "This (Mexican drug) war is being waged with guns purchased not here, but in the United States. More than 90% of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our shared border."

    The 90% number is an old and miscalculated figure that long ago was debunked by William La Jeunesse of Fox News. Mexican authorities would only send guns to America for tracing that they had reason to believe originated here.

    Weapons known to have originated in foreign countries were not sent to the U.S. for tracing.

    Nor were weapons found to have originated from deserters from the Mexican army or stolen from government armories.

    In 2007-08, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.

    According to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced, and of those, 90% — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover, assistant director for field operations of the ATF — were found to have come from the U.S.

    That's the percentage that gets endlessly repeated.

    In those same two years, in other words, 68% of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing.

    And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32%, it means 83% of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to America. Only 17% could.

    Today, the number would be inflated by the guns walked by the Obama administration into Mexico under the disastrous Fast and Furious program.

    But don't expect Obama to tell either the Mexican or American people that. Far more convenient to recycle a false statistic that will only damage our relations with our neighbor, and mislead Americans about the sources of gun crime.

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    this 90% number is fabricated; somebody is either off their Med's or on Their Med's

    If Obama is going to Lie he should go the Kim Jung Il Route

    137% of the U.S. Population Demand all guns be removed from the street

    Kid's... this is why you dont do drug's

    you think you look cool and Intelligent as you say stupid shit; when in fact you look like a Mental Midget with a Retarded outlook on Reality
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    It will Never end with these out of control politicians and Un-elected Rogue Officials; The Lies to cover the Lies to blur reality until it distorts the Truth so bad it doesn't even resemble a Fiction Novel

    FUBAR to put it mildly

    Once a Person is found to be a Liar, nothing they say has credibility 0.00 Percent

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    the Main Gun Runner to Mexico is Barack Obama and Eric Holder

    2,000 Plus Counts of Gun Trafficing across State and International Borders - Each Count a Felony under the RICO Act

    2 Border Patrol Agents Grave Yard Dead from these Guns - 2 Capitol Murder Charges

    400 KNOWN Mexicans killed by these guns; but the true number will never be tallied up in the 70,000 + dead in Mexico - Genocide of the Mexican People
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    Send Obama-Biden-Bloomberg Real Gun Facts

    New Study Shows True Gun Violence Numbers

    Newly-released data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) proves that more guns in private hands do not lead to more murders, and a Pew Research study showing widespread ignorance of this fact suggests that the public has been misled.

    The BJS data covers 1993 to 2011 and suggests that for almost 20 years, the gun prohibition lobby has been consistently wrong about private gun ownership and its correlation to crime. The Pew report suggests that the public has been essentially hoodwinked into believing otherwise.

    The three headed gun control monster made up of Obama, Biden, and Bloomberg never seem to look at the facts. We feel it is time to educate them on the truth which is why we ALL must send them the facts of this study. The more people that know the truth, the longer our Second Amendment Rights will be protected.

    An Associated Press report about the Pew Research revelation suggested that "intense publicity generated by recent mass shootings" may help to skew the public perception about gun-related violent crime.

    The release of these reports blows holes in the gun prohibition agenda. If violent crime had gone upward, gun grabbers would exploit the fact as proof that more guns in private hands lead to more violent crime.

    However, if the gun rights community argued that the BJS data proves increased gun ownership leads to lower violent crime rates, the dominant liberal media would savage the notion. Of course, this is the same anti-gun press that has sensationalized crimes while remaining silent about the actual crime data.

    The BJS data shows that gun-related homicides declined by 39 percent from 1993 to 2011, and the Pew Research Center found that gun-related homicides fell from 7 per 100,000 in 1993 to 3.6 per 100,000 in 2010, a decline of 49 percent. The declining percentages go in the same direction. Firearms-related homicides have plummeted dramatically while more Americans bought more guns, including millions of semi-automatic modern sporting rifles. More people are licensed to carry in more states, and crime is down.

    It is time for the gun control crowd to acknowledge they have been consistently and undeniably wrong, and admit that their agenda has never been about crime, but about public disarmament. They don't want to prevent gun crime; they want to prevent gun ownership.



    Obama has 3 more years to constantly pressure and threaten to destroy our Second Amendment and our right to defend ourselves. The only way to counteract these threats is for law abiding gun owners to stand up together against them.

    WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND WE NEED YOUR HELP

    Sincerely Yours,

    Alan M. Gottlieb
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    SAF LAUNCHES EDUCATION, AWARENESS EFFORT

    BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation will launch an ambitious three-week public education and awareness effort on nationally-syndicated talk radio programs, and XM Sirius radio to explain its legal and educational efforts and encourage public support.

    SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb said a series of advertisements will air on “threats to firearms rights and SAF’s response through litigation against unconstitutional gun laws.”

    “We will highlight legal abuses of constitutional rights, and explain how we challenge such laws in the courts to protect our liberty,” Gottlieb stated. “We've secured tens of thousands of dollars in advertising time over the next three weeks.”

    Radio spots will air on radio programs hosted by Michael Savage, Mark Levin, Lars Larson, Laura Ingraham, John Gibson, Tom Sullivan and Fox News broadcasts on XM Sirius radio. The effort is expected to reach millions of listeners, many who may be learning of SAF and its legal and educational programs for the first time.

    “If additional funds can be raised as a result of this advertising effort,” Gottlieb said, “we will hopefully be able to continue and expand the campaign beyond the initial three weeks.”

    Gottlieb said the education effort was made possible by SAF supporters who have already contributed to the organization.

    “I want to personally thank all of those donors who made this possible,” he said. “It is important that the public have a clear understanding about existing and proposed laws that can seriously impair their right to keep and bear arms.”

    The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation’s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control.
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    Prepared And Conducted
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    Dear Patriot,

    Did you know that Obama, amidst all of his Benghazi and IRS cover-ups, is flying around on Air Force One campaigning - He is railing about how he will fix his train wrecked economy and how he will get guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens?
    Obama publicly renewed his call for reform and the Democratic Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid, has vowed to reintroduce legislation. Recently at the University of Ohio Obama told students to make a difference and not let more shootings happen and in Mexico Obama said, "I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people." This while ignoring the fact that under his leadership he just gave away guns to Mexican criminals and drug lords who used them to kill Americans.

    The Obama Administration and their anti-gun cronies want our guns! Here is a list of some radical anti-gun bills that have been proposed across the nation this year:

    • Feinstein 'Assault Weapons Ban' attacking hundreds of our semi-automatic guns used for self-defense, hunting, and sport.
    • Magazine capacity limitations limiting them anywhere from 7 to 15 rounds.
    • Surrender your 'assault weapon', render it unoperable, or face a felony charge.
    • 5 cent bullet tax for every bullet purchased.
    • Additional tax of $25 for every firearm purchase.
    • Ammo purchasers would have to wait 3 days to pick up ammo unless they complete an anger management course.
    • Allow doctors to ask you about guns in your home.


    Lawmakers are proposing anything and everything to get rid of our guns. We need to let them know this is not going to happen.


    The Obama Administration has made it very clear that the gun control battle has not even gotten warmed up yet. Biden, Bloomberg, and Obama are gearing up to brainwash the American people into wanting more gun control rather than looking at the facts.

    After the Senate defeat of the gun control bill in April, Bloomberg said, "It would be a great tragedy if the momentum for gun control generated after the Newtown mass shooting withered."

    These anti-gunners do not care about our Second Amendment and they do not care about the victims at Newtown or any other tragic shooting. They do not want law-abiding citizens to have firearms in the U.S.

    "All in all, this was a pretty shameful day for Washington...Sooner or later we are going to get this right." -Obama's reaction to the Senate defeat.

    Biden's reaction after the Senate defeated the gun control bill in April, "Let me say this as clearly as I can: this is just the beginning..."That doesn't mean this is the end of the process. This is the beginning of the process."

    This trio of anti-gunners is prepared to take away guns from law-abiding citizens and we must do everything in our power to stop them. We must let our Senators know that we will not stand for additional federal gun control.

    We may very well hold the leverage with the U.S. Senate because of the huge percentage of Americans who are gun owners. They do not want their information to be on record.

    Gun owners are the ones that vote these Senators into office. In 2014 there will be one of the most important elections in recent history; not for President, but the Republicans may be able to take control of the Senate giving them control in both the Senate and House of Representatives. This is exactly what Obama and his radical anti-gun cronies do not want in his last term.

    Currently there are Senate democrats holding seats in rural states, states that favor guns and our Second Amendment. These Senators do not want a list of gun control votes on their record before their 2014 re-elections. If they reject all gun control proposals we win, if they vote yes to all of these anti-gun bills we will publicly display their record and not vote them back into office...their choice.
    How To Stop The Gun-Grabbers In Their Tracks
    CCRKBA has launched a 2-step action plan to stop the global elitists from passing the UN gun ban
    FIRST: By distributing surveys and letters like this we can help create massive public awareness of the problems gun owners face and get people involved in our projects.
    Our survey results will play a key role in establishing the evidence to show that the American public wants to defend the right to keep and bear arms from attackers like Obama.

    SECOND:
    We will flood the offices of Congress with faxes urging ALL Senators to vote NO to all of the coming anti-gun anti-Second Amendment proposed gun control. We elected Congress to uphold the Constitution. We must hold them accountable.




    Anti- Gun Groups Gear Up To Pass Gun Ban

    Right now, groups like the Brady Gun Control Center are raking in millions of dollars. In 2008, the Brady Center received $2,544,379 in donations! Mayor Bloomberg alone has launched a 12 million dollar campaign attacking guns and pushing for all out gun control.
    These groups are dipping into their enormous bank accounts and running anti-gun commercials, newspaper, internet website and magazine ads, and are appearing on radio talk shows.

    Today, with Barack Obama in his last term, the anti-gun agenda is one of the best funded operations I have ever seen. The anti-gun extremists are quickly building up their army.

    I've been actively involved in this fight for over thirty years. But, without your help, and the help of other concerned citizens there is little that I can do.

    Today, I am asking for your commitment to join me in my crusade to defend our country, our people and our Constitution from the threat of the anti-gun brigade.

    That's why I'm hoping you'll take just the few minutes needed to complete your survey today.

    Please imagine for a moment the loss of your gun rights, and the fact that your children may not have the same freedom you took for granted. Remember too, all the countries where this freedom has already been lost.

    Now I know you are called upon to help many worthy causes these days. But our gun rights are simply one freedom we cannot afford to put on "the back burner."
    The biggest danger facing us today is if too many people think their individual participation isn't really needed or won't make a difference. I sincerely hope you don't feel that way.

    I must be careful to maximize every dollar the Citizens Committee spends. That's why I wrote to you instead of someone else who is not as concerned about our freedom.

    Please - do these two things today to help us stop the gun grabbers:


    Let me hear from you today, while it's fresh on your mind.
    Sincerely yours,

    Alan M. Gottlieb
    Chairman
    Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

    If you prefer to donate by check, please mail to:
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    With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States. Contributions are not tax deductible. The Citizens Committee can be reached by phone at (425) 454-4911 or by email to Patriot@CCRKBAUpdate.org

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