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    Odrama abandons white working class voters!

    Just heard on Fox Odrama and the Dems. are abandoning the white working class voters, for that's right Ladies and Gentlemen the "Latino Vote"

    There is only one reason Odrama or any President would do this, "Amnesty by Executive Order!" why else would he take this risk?

    Solis and Munoz have convinced Odrama that he has enough illegals here to cancel out the white working class vote and be re-elected upon which they the "Latino's" will be kicked to the curb along with the rest of us!

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    Awww roofer, now before I say that obamanation and the demo-rats abandoing white middle class working Americans is not breaking news, did you actually hear the words come straight from Odrama (love the Odrama name by the way =) or any of the demo-rats mouths, or did Rot news say this?

    The obamantion which sits high on Capital Hill has already done so much else by excecutive order, I would not be in the least bit surprised...

    Dang, I'm cynical tonight!
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    The Future of the Obama Coalition

    Here's the article I believe they were referring to:

    The Future of the Obama Coalition

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    By THOMAS B. EDSALL
    November 27, 2011, 11:34 pm

    For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

    All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.

    It is instructive to trace the evolution of a political strategy based on securing this coalition in the writings and comments, over time, of such Democratic analysts as Stanley Greenberg and Ruy Teixeira. Both men were initially determined to win back the white working-class majority, but both currently advocate a revised Democratic alliance in which whites without college degrees are effectively replaced by well-educated socially liberal whites in alliance with the growing ranks of less affluent minority voters, especially Hispanics.

    The 2012 approach treats white voters without college degrees as an unattainable cohort. The Democratic goal with these voters is to keep Republican winning margins to manageable levels, in the 12 to 15 percent range, as opposed to the 30-point margin of 2010 — a level at which even solid wins among minorities and other constituencies are not enough to produce Democratic victories.

    “It’s certainly true that if you compare how things were in the early ’90s to the way they are now, there has been a significant shift in the role of the working class. You see it across all advanced industrial countries,
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    Quote Originally Posted by forest
    Awww roofer, now before I say that Odramanization and the demo-rats abandoning white middle class working Americans is not breaking news....
    No it's not breaking news, and does he really need to say it? His actions speak louder then his words! "The 5" actually said the "Latino vote"
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    union membership has shrunk form a high of around 25% of the workforce to around 7%.This reflects their loss of the middle class vote. Hopefully many of these people receiving assistance will not see this as their lot in life and be resigned to an existence that relies on welfare, but instead will realize Conservative values will raise them up out of their present station in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsprtt
    Hopefully many of these people receiving assistance will not see this as their lot in life and be resigned to an existence that relies on welfare, but instead will realize Conservative values will raise them up out of their present station in life.
    This is one of the reason's he wants his jobs bill passed so bad, "Fear and Desperation!" hellava campaign strategy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsprtt
    union membership has shrunk form a high of around 25% of the workforce to around 7%. This reflects their loss of the middle class vote.
    It reflects the destruction of our manufacturing industry because of the breakdown of trade barriers (regulations) that NAFTA and the WTO has brought about.
    Hopefully many of these people receiving assistance will not see this as their lot in life and be resigned to an existence that relies on welfare, but instead will realize Conservative values will raise them up out of their present station in life.
    When more people were union members and there were higher taxes on the rich and heavier regulations on corporations, most people were better off and happier. Fewer were dependant on public assistance.

    Something to think about.
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    Found an actual news article from a UK source and posted in News:

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-256354-0-da ... rasc-.html
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    When more people were union members and there were higher taxes on the rich and heavier regulations on corporations, most people were better off and happier. Fewer were dependant on public assistance.

    Something to think about.
    There was a time when Unions served a greater purpose and did great good for the average worker. Upton Sinclair's novel , originally written to portray the plight of immigrants in general came to be an indictment of unregulated capitalism and helped push the Union movement forward. This was before the formation of state and federal Wage and Labor , OSHA, and the passage of many health and safety laws protecting workers. Child labor laws were passed as a result. Today Unions are little more than a middle man between the workers and business adding an additional layer of bureaucracy and additional cost to business.
    The cost of labor is a function of supply and demand just as is the price of any commodity. Oversupply results in lower wages. Unemployment to a certain degree is the workers guarantee of a living wage. The problem today is a structural dysfunction created by governmental regulation and the higher taxes on corporate activities , coupled with higher costs and restraints by the unions causing business in general to be less versatile and agile , being less able to respond in a timely manner to changing market forces.
    Primarily the influx of massive numbers of workers over the last 20 years , legal and illegal, coupled with failed governmental policy , Fannie/ Freddie and the sub prime market / derivatives market, have conspired to create a situation where labor supply exceeds demand and individual wealth has been stripped away from the middle class.
    While Unions are not the main reason manufacturing has left the country , the additional costs of doing business and the inflexibility of unions to companies changing needs have not helped. I say all this as a former teamster. Given a choice I would rather sell myself to the highest bidder on my own than be owned by the union.
    Back in the day when unions were at their height there was no realistic options for corporations to operate anywhere but the U.S. Today that is not the case. What used to be third world nations are now capable of supporting corporate activities and corporations will seek the greatest profit. This is free market capitalism. Competitive tax structures and regulatory environments will be the only way to preserve American manufacturing. Government nor Unions create jobs , their function is solely to create the amenable environment , private capital will create the jobs. Primarily it will be the 1% that do this.

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