Thread: Oklahoma Defends Voter ID

Oklahoma Defends Voter ID





By Allan Wall, May 13, 2020

The right to vote is an honored privilege. But in order to make it work, we have to have the confidence that our voting system is secure.

The first step towards that goal is having a good registration system.







Allan Wall

For many years I resided in Mexico, and I still visit there each year. I have observed, firsthand, the Mexican voter registration system. It’s a good one.


The Mexican government issues a voter ID card to all its voters. In order to receive one of these cards, prospective voters must prove their identity and citizenship.


Mexican voter ID cards display a photograph of the voter, the fingerprints of the voter, and various security features.


On election day, poll workers have a book with the name and photo of each voter in the precinct. They can check to see if the voter matches up with the ID.


After voting, the voter’s thumb is smudged with ink to discourage multiple voting.


We could learn from Mexico because, frankly, voter registration is a weak part of our system, and some want to keep it that way.


Many states don’t require voters to really prove their citizenship or even identity.


And many politicians and activists make it more difficult. Whenever secure voter ID is proposed, they start screaming that it disenfranchises voters.


Really? Tell that to the Mexicans and many other nationalities who have voter ID.


Here in the U.S.A. however, having a secure voter registration system continues to be controversial.


In the state of Oklahoma, in the space of four days, two key decisions relating to this issue made their ways through the political process.
A little background is in order.


Ten years ago, in 2010, Oklahoma voters approved a Voter ID law, which took effect in 2011.


The law required that, in order to vote, an Oklahoma voter produce official federal or state identification which includes a photograph and post-election expiration date.


That could be a drivers’s license, a military ID card, or even a county-issued ID. And, this being Oklahoma, it could be the official ID card of an Indian tribe.


As a last resort, a voter without photo ID could still vote provisionally, the ballot set aside until the voter’s identity could be proven after the election.


It sounds reasonable to me, or at least a step in the right direction, and most Oklahoma voters agreed, so it became law.


In 2012, however, a certain Delilah Christine Gentges filed suit against the law, claiming it created a “new barrier” for Oklahoma voters. Eight years later, the case was decided by the Oklahoma Supreme Court, which upheld the law on May 5^th, 2020. (The vote was 8-0 with one recusal).


Quoth the Oklahoma Supreme Court: “Requiring voters to show proof of identity serves to protect the integrity and reliability of the electoral process and prevent in-person voter fraud.” Well-ruled!


This means that hopefully, on November 3^rd, 2020, the law will be in effect for the presidential election, so Oklahoma voters can select their seven electors.


That same week, another voting-related decision was decided, dealing with absentee ballots.


I used absentee ballots for many years when I lived in Mexico, so I can relate.


On May 4th, the day before its Voter ID ruling, the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled (6-3) that voters casting absentee ballots don’t need to have them notarized.


Oklahoma’s judicial branch had spoken, but that wasn’t the end of it. The legislative and executive branches went into action.








Oil well at OK state capitol, OKC


Two days after the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruling, the Oklahoma House passed a law, three days later the Senate passed it and Governor Kevin Stitt signed it.


This new law says that, ok, during the COVID-19 emergency, voters don’t have to notarize their absentee ballots, but they do have to send a photocopy of their photo ID or voter registration card. And when the state of emergency is over, it’s back to notarizing ballots.


Kudos to the Oklahoma state government for defending the integrity of the Oklahoma ballot, though it’s not yet up to Mexican standards. Maybe someday …


https://usinc.org/oklahoma-defends-voter-id/

We need to do this and end Dual Citizenship.

You are 100% an American citizen, loyal to this country, or you are not.

I would also like a Tracking Number issued after I vote to track my vote and ensure it was entered correctly with NO cheating.

Let us log-in to our counties website with our Voter Registration Number, enter our Tracking Number and ensure our vote was caste and locked in. Make it "read only" and if their is a discrepancy, call the Voter Registrar's Office.

Originally Posted by Beezer

We need to do this and end Dual Citizenship.

You are 100% an American citizen, loyal to this country, or you are not.

I would also like a Tracking Number issued after I vote to track my vote and ensure it was entered correctly with NO cheating.

Let us log-in to our counties website with our Voter Registration Number, enter our Tracking Number and ensure our vote was caste and locked in. Make it "read only" and if their is a discrepancy, call the Voter Registrar's Office.

We really should not have any computers involved with votes. Computers can have their data changed, even a simple magnet can end up changing the data on certain computers.

You also have to make sure that the computer is 100% trustworthy and made from 100% trustworthy components.

Where do components come from? CHINA. Your proposal hands the vote to China and whatever hackers get into the computer systems.

You should not trust computers when it comes to voting, they can make a fake website that appears like your vote was accurate and you would never know it didn't get counted, or it counted for the other team.

Originally Posted by CommieBGone

We really should not have any computers involved with votes. Computers can have their data changed, even a simple magnet can end up changing the data on certain computers.

You also have to make sure that the computer is 100% trustworthy and made from 100% trustworthy components.

Where do components come from? CHINA. Your proposal hands the vote to China and whatever hackers get into the computer systems.

You should not trust computers when it comes to voting, they can make a fake website that appears like your vote was accurate and you would never know it didn't get counted, or it counted for the other team.

We already have computers involved with votes and George Soros machines that change our votes to Democrats. We cannot trust those machines either.

We have volunteers who cheat and throw our mail in ballots out. They know who we voted for. There is no privacy.

There is much cheating in our elections all across the board including the mail-in ballots that end up in the trash, someone's trunk of their car, or never counted in boxes in warehouses.

I am saying go vote in person. Get a tracking number and a receipt of your vote who you voted for. Then go log on to the website to ensure your vote was cast correctly (read only). There is too much cheating in this country.

We can track our package that we mail all over the world, we are issued a tracking number. We should be able to get some sort of tracking number to ensure our vote was not changed and it counted.

Originally Posted by Beezer

We already have computers involved with votes and George Soros machines that change our votes to Democrats. We cannot trust those machines either.

We have volunteers who cheat and throw our mail in ballots out. They know who we voted for. There is no privacy.

There is much cheating in our elections all across the board including the mail-in ballots that end up in the trash, someone's trunk of their car, or never counted in boxes in warehouses.

I am saying go vote in person. Get a tracking number and a receipt of your vote who you voted for. Then go log on to the website to ensure your vote was cast correctly (read only). There is too much cheating in this country.

We can track our package that we mail all over the world, we are issued a tracking number. We should be able to get some sort of tracking number to ensure our vote was not changed and it counted.

So where would we store the information that your tracking number would reference? Hint: It's stored on a hard drive somewhere, most likely on a Chinese manufactured hard drive on a Chinese manufactured computer. With the software running on Chinese manufactured processors.

Read only isn't actually a thing, its only read only for you. Something somewhere has to be able to write for it to exist at all.

Assumes the software to write to the database hasn't been tampered with.
Assumes that the hardware is trustworthy.
Assumes that nobody tampered with the vote in person with the machine in private while casting their vote.

Anyone with access to that database can tamper with computers over a network if they know what they are doing.

No computers. No databases. Paper only. Anything else is untrustworthy. Good luck trying to tamper with thousands of paper votes. That tracking number website can be made to display anything anyone wants. All it references is a hard drive somewhere on some network.

Originally Posted by CommieBGone

So where would we store the information that your tracking number would reference? Hint: It's stored on a hard drive somewhere, most likely on a Chinese manufactured hard drive on a Chinese manufactured computer. With the software running on Chinese manufactured processors.

Read only isn't actually a thing, its only read only for you. Something somewhere has to be able to write for it to exist at all.

Assumes the software to write to the database hasn't been tampered with.
Assumes that the hardware is trustworthy.
Assumes that nobody tampered with the vote in person with the machine in private while casting their vote.

Anyone with access to that database can tamper with computers over a network if they know what they are doing.

No computers. No databases. Paper only. Anything else is untrustworthy. Good luck trying to tamper with thousands of paper votes. That tracking number website can be made to display anything anyone wants. All it references is a hard drive somewhere on some network.

So where do they "store" the information of everybody who has voted to count the votes? The paper ballots go into a machine. You don't think the Soros "machines" have not been tampered with? Of course they are.

You don't think "paper" mail-in ballots have gone "missing"? Paper mail-in ballots are just as "untrustworthy".

Good luck trying to "trust" untrustworthy people, the cheaters, the workers, and volunteers at the poll stations from "tampering" with the paper ballots. They have been caught "tampering" with the ballots many times.